Skip to comments.Perry's America may seem familiar to centenarians
Posted on 08/28/2011 8:37:20 PM PDT by smoothsailing
By JOE HOLLEY
August 28, 2011
At first glance, it would seem that the 30th president of the United States and the man who would be the 45th have little in common. Famously silent Calvin Coolidge, after all, not only had little to say but also hated to campaign, unlike White House aspirant Rick Perry, an indefatigable campaigner whose tongue occasionally runs ahead of his brain. Coolidge was a rectitudinous New Englander presiding, paradoxically, over a raucous Jazz Age; Perry is a gregarious Texan who, paradoxically, stands to inherit a nation shaken by a stubbornly slow economic recovery.
In reality, the two Republicans are similar in several ways beyond party affiliation. Coolidge, like Perry, was the first in his family to leave the land. Coolidge - like Perry, so far - never lost an election in 15 tries, serving as a city alderman, mayor, state legislator, Massachusetts governor and vice president before becoming president in 1923 upon the death of Warren G. Harding. Like Perry, Coolidge enjoyed physical exercise, although his preferred method wasn't jogging along a country road but bouncing atop a mechanical horse in his White House bedroom.
Most of all, the two men share a commitment to minimalist federal government. Writing about Coolidge in 1926, columnist Walter Lippmann noted the president's talent for "active inactivity," an attribute that, in Lippmann's words, "suits the mood and certain of the needs of the country admirably. It suits all the business interests which want to be left alone. ... And it suits all those who have become convinced that government in this country has become dangerously complicated and top-heavy."...
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The truth is, I dont care what party the statist is in. The fact of the matter is, it is the statist, and those who support or enable him, who is the problem. For too long he has undermined this country by empowering the national government at the expense of liberty. An America defined by the statist in Washington is an America doomed to fail. pg. 338
(both quotes from Perry, Rick; (2010-11-15). Fed Up!: Our Fight to Save America from Washington.
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From A NEW LOOK AT CALVIN COOLIDGE-Remarks by Peter Hannaford
Shortly after he was inaugurated as the 40th President of the United States, Ronald Reagan ordered a portrait of Calvin Coolidge hung in the Cabinet Room of the White House.
The news of this startled the Washington press corps. Why, they wondered, would Reagan want to hang the picture of a man who had nothing to say and little to do when he occupied the White House? They reminded us that biographers described Coolidge as cold, aloof, unfeeling, materialistic, in the pocket of big business and, otherwise, a cipher.
Ronald Reagan knew differently. His action came as no surprise to me. I was closely associated with him for a number of years and knew that Coolidge was one of his favorite predecessors and that he considered Coolidge to have been greatly underrated.
One dramatic action in Reagan’s first year as President can be traced directly to an action that Coolidge took many years earlier.
In August 1981, the air traffic controllers’ union called a strike. President Reagan said that, as public employees, they could not do that and any who weren’t back on the job within 48 hours would be fired. Those who went back to work kept their jobs; those who didn’t were fired. Today, no one remembers the name of the man who ran that union, but he’d probably be around still if he had bothered to read what Reagan had said many times as Governor of California. That is, that public employees dealing with public safety did not have the right to strike and should be terminated if they did strike.
Ronald Reagan’s view was inspired by the stand that Governor Calvin Coolidge had taken in 1919, when the Boston police went on strike. On the verge of the strike, the police commissioner had assured him everything was under control, but once the police went out, looting and rioting ensued. Coolidge stepped in, took charge, brought out the state militia and fired the strikers. Samuel Gompers, the head of the AFofL, wired him, asking him to take back the striking policemen, Coolidge’s answer was right to the point, this famous statement:
“There is no right to strike against the public safety by anybody, anywhere, any time.”
You perry supporters need to read this:
Raza studies make assimilation impossible (w/shocking video)
FYI — They updated the story and changed the title to:
“Perry’s book speaks to minimalist roots”
Thanks for the headsup. I like the new title better.
Sounds good to a country buried under debt (with more coming in the mail).
Of course, the idea (pushed at the end of the piece) is to throw poor, old, non-productive grandma over the cliff.
Which of course he wouldn’t do.
The media is going to have a VERY hard time making Perry look evil.
Want to take a guess at who was president when the federal government last actually shrank in size?
Sorry, but the really important Perry quotes come behind closed doors when Don Tyson says, "Rick, I want more illegal aliens to come to work plucking chickens for me for the kind of wages I like to pay: I need flexibility at the end of the month!" And Rick says, "Yes, sir, Mr. Tyson, sir!" And Bo Pilgrim says, "Well, Rick, I need Mexican workers, too -- illegals who can't strike or call in OSHA with some silly complaint. I need as good a deal as Don gets -- you can deliver for me, can't you?" And Rick says, "Yes, sir, Mr. Pilgrim, sir!"
And on and on and on. All the while, holding the towel for his principals as they dry themselves off from their round of golf, or tennis, or "whatever makes them happy!"
Not if they manage to take a meeting between Perry and his principal backers when they work on his legislative agenda.
Just for drill LG who would YOU support in the race for president?
How about some ACTUAL quotes LG instead of this made up in your own mind BS?
The fact is that YOU don’t know ANY of this and are making it up out of whole cloth!
In 2009, Texas ranked 26th in median household income, at $48.3K (2009 dollars).
If more of those "cash-economy" incomes were identified and counted, Texas would be even lower. Except in tax receipts, which would go up if the tax-evaders could be rounded up and made to file. Although they are presumably paying FICA into someone's (borrowed) Social Security accounts.
You do realize that Pilgrim’s Pride filed for bankruptcy in 2008 and the majority owner since 2009 has been Brazilian-based JBS? Bo Pilgrim is no longer Chairman of the Board, although he is a member of the Board of Directors. He doesn’t run the company and hasn’t for a long time.
Tyson Foods corporate headquarters is located in Arkansas.
You really need to get your facts straight before you start smearing people.
Quotes? How about I point you to a late-2005 Houston Chronicle article about Kay Bailey Hutchison? That had quotes. Like, "I've got good money invested in Rick Perry, and I mean to get my money's worth". That was a good quote -- from the meeting between these men I'm talking about, the ones who hold Perry's leash, and Kay and whoever she brought with her.
Not that I'm a Kay fan. But she was there, and these men talked very bluntly to her, as masters of Texas to a bystander, about what they expected and what they had paid for. You don't have to read stuff like that again, to get the drift.
I'd quote the whole article, but I did that last night with another article from 2007, about RiNOs giving early money to candidates, and the Admin Mod took it down. (Look at my in-forum history, and you'll see it right away. The hole, anyway.)
Right, Perry is evil........(Eyes rolling/frowning)
Thanks for the thoughtful response!
I have NO problem what-so-ever with either Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann and could happily support either if they managed to get the nomination but that isn’t going to happen. In fact, I would bet the farm that Sarah will soon announce that she will NOT seek the nomination and will endorse Rick Perry. I guess we will just have to wait and see whether or not I’m right about that. Shouldn’t be a long wait.
If that happened would you then support Rick Perry keeping in mind that the goal is to get OBOZO out in 2012?
BTW, you got a hat tip in post #1 for the Perry quotes! Good stuff! :)
DING! DING! DING! We have a winner here!
Exactly right! The much maligned Calvin Coolidge actually REDUCED the size of the federal government and no one has come close to doing so since!
Thanks for the hat tip!
Well, the quotes I posted are sourced and published and available to the public.
Your "quotes" are fantasies of your imagination, therefore irrelevent.
Publicly available information about Perry includes his plan to vaccinate all girls in Texas against HPV, a sexually transmitted disease.
Don’t we have a problem with a President who wants to force everyone to buy healthcare? Perry’s had to walk back his plan, which was rightly rejected by the legislature, but it seems that the difference between Obama and Perry on the proper role of government is one of degree, not kind. Perry is a Texas moderate, just like the last Republican President.
“Liberal” is becoming another way to say “corrupt,” but simply being honest instead of corrupt is still not enough to claim to be conservative. I plan to vote for Perry if he is the nominee against Obama, but I’m not going to call Perry conservative. Perry is no more conservative than Romney.
Conservative is a subjective term so your interpretation will differ from mine.
That being said, I believe Rick Perry to be THE most conservative person currently in the race and I say that as one who is a native Texan who has watched him from the beginning of his political career! Is he perfect? No he isn’t and no candidate ever will be! Is he the best currently available? I think the answer to that is yes!
Rick Perry was VERY conservative even when he was a Texas democrat!
If both Bush and Perry are Texas moderates, then I would say that Perry is to the right of Bush on that scale.
I'm sorry to hear that; it breaks my heart. Bo Pilgrim is the one who was videotaped walking around the floor of the Texas senate while it was in session, handing out $10,000 checks.
Sorry to hear he's out.
No smear, FReeper -- these guys do talk like that to senators and governors (see my last). And they're on the public record doing it.
In an article which otherwise is a vile hit piece on Texas and Texas governance and the idea of smaller government (these guys think the American West was settled by people who had live-in bureaucrats helping them), there is one bit of useful information about concentration of donorship among Perry's supporters:
Accompanying Gov. Perry’s denial is cronyism and patronage, both good ole boy-style and corporate (of the $102 million in campaign contributions raised for his gubernatorial races, Katrina vanden Heuvel wrote, half came “from just 204 sources,” and the Los Angeles Times reports, “Nearly half of those mega-donors received hefty business contracts, tax breaks or appointments under Perry.”)
Despite the source's obvious bias, a fact is still a fact, and I cite it for support of my statement that you doubt, about Perry's indebtedness to a small circle of donors.
And yes, I'm perfectly aware Tyson's operation is up in Arkansas. And I know he was hip-deep in U.S. presidential and Texas politics, up until he died in January, and he was one of Rick Perry's big backers. He was in the room in that 2005 meeting with Kay Bailey Hutchison I referred to above, that was written up in the Houston Chronicle.
Here's a Tyson Foods press release from 2008 showing 10,000 Tyson employees in Texas, and supporting Gov. Rick Perry doing a political favor for Tyson Foods by calling for a reduction in government support for ethanol, which was driving up Tyson's feed costs:
I think he is. Romney is politically a cipher; he has no agenda, just a need to be in office.
Bush 41, it was once said, had a conviction that "the right people", "people like us" (meaning, fellow Yalie elitist country-clubbers) needed to be in charge of the nation's affairs. He had other ideas and values to go with that. Romney doesn't have any other visible values beyond holding office that I can see. He's a freshwater stingless jellyfish, if such a thing exists, just jellying along and floating downstream. He is palpably decayed, a decomposition product of what was once an identifiable political class and grouping that had some sort of theme and texture to it. Now, in Romney, it's just jelly.
Perry so far has stood up for RKBA and the death penalty "no foolin'" and for rights of the unborn in some fashion (although that is not my issue, I let others carry that fight and measure people like Perry). He's not all bad; he's just sold, and that's the hell of it. He's like a pretty good dog that won't come when you call, runs off with the guy giving him gainesburgers and table scraps, and then pees on your car's hubcaps and dumps on the lawn.
The contrast, though, isn't between Rick Perry and Barky at the moment, but among the contenders for the honor of drop-kicking his sorry ass back across the Pacific where he came from. That has to be the discussion now.
Me, I like the lady Republicans right now. They're going to demonstrate why women in public affairs need to avoid wearing open-toed pumps when kicking a poofty guy's butt through the Golden Gate and across the sea. (Let's leave it there.)
Not when they're fully descriptive of the essential process of "Texas gubernatorial politics" and have explanatory power for what he's going to do in the future.
Rick's sold, amigo. No longer available. You can't have his attention for $250,000 now. He's fully engaged and engorged -- on a mission from The Man.
Like the other poster said, nice try.
Somehow, ma'am, I don't think they're listening.
They're like a dog running with a bone, right out into the street in front of a truck. All they can see, hear, taste, and smell is that bone.
Don't flatter yourself, it doen't matter to me what you think of Perry, as long as you vote for him should he be the nominee. I believe you indicated you would, thereby displaying the good sense God gave you.
Well, I’m not Texan, so I only know what gets out into the national news, or here on FR. One problem that we have is that the libs have made the labels; “moderate” means only one thing: pro-abortion. “Conservative” means “church-attending” or that the person described seems church-attending to reporters who wouldn’t be caught dead in a place of worship (we’ve all heard Catholics described as evangelicals, or Jews described as Christians because of this kind of lazy bias.) Accordingly, Romney was a “moderate conservative.”
I mean moderate to be “same-but-less” Republicanism; that is, one who does not want to get rid of any programs, but just wants to balance the budget. By that standard, only Ron Paul is not a fiscal moderate. Yes, most Pubbies running say they’ll repeal Obamacare, but it really hasn’t been implemented yet. Voters are still afraid that the ax will fall on them. If Obamacare had been in place for five years, would the present candidates be brave enough run on repeal?
Since both Bush and Perry have proposed new spending, it’s hard to even call them fiscal moderates. I’ve heard that Texas has a line-item veto, so perhaps Perry has been more of a budget-cutter than Bush. Like I said, I’ll vote for Perry when the time comes, but I’d have higher hopes for smaller government under Cain or Bachmann.
I don't think Cain or Bachmann will survive the early primaries. What will be needed to start down the path to smaller government is large majorities of limited government fiscal conservatives in the House and Senate. If they don't appropriate, the Executive can't spend.
Oh, really? And why should I be "sensible" when you guys so obviously are not prepared to exercise the common sense God gave a doorknob?
Why should I vote for that corrupt, sold-out timeserver? You may have just turned me around, talking down to me like that when I'm in the right!
You can get off right here, this is your stop.
Now that's funny, I don't care what anybody says! :o)