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The American working man slowly fades away
MSNBC ^ | Mike Dorning

Posted on 08/28/2011 11:15:43 PM PDT by Borough Park

Edited on 08/29/2011 6:09:41 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]


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KEYWORDS: american; construction; employer; employment; housing; job; men; plan; realestate; recession; trades; wages; women; work; worker
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To: arasina

“People who want to blame “boomers” now can look forward to being blamed by the next generation for putting another nail in the coffin of our economy.”

Not too worry. One of my jobs as a parent will be to remind my children that it was the stupidity of their peers who elected the most incompetent POTUS in history and the entitlements of their grandparents that lowered the US’s credit rating and brought us to the verge of bankruptcy.


41 posted on 08/29/2011 4:26:34 AM PDT by ffusco (The President will return this country to what it once was...An arctic wasteland covered in ice.)
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To: Cvengr

“Incompetent upper middle class female executives are not scrutinized in their performance or abilities and promoted over their male counterparts, not only inverting the corporate power structures, but now further reducing the corporate ethic.”

Our government has forced companies to hire their allotment of inferior tokens through threats of lawsuits; to find the most women/minorities that are actually qualified for their jobs you have to go to smaller businesses. There is no room for “fat”, and many government guidelines don’t apply. At this point large companies are simply extensions of the government; firms looking for government contracts have to take on the required number of unemployable wastes of space.


42 posted on 08/29/2011 4:29:24 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: thecodont

“Is this one of the reasons modern men are reluctant to get married?”

I just rented a cheap trailer to a nice young white couple; Wal-Mart employees living paycheck to paycheck. They aren’t married. She’s pregnant. I wonder why they didn’t get married. My guess is marriage is a goner.


43 posted on 08/29/2011 4:30:45 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: jazzlite

“Anyone with children, especially boys, who pays attention to the education system has to be horrified.”

You’re right; at this point we are simply a Fifth Column waiting for someone with a better way.


44 posted on 08/29/2011 4:31:37 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Gen.Blather

“I just rented a cheap trailer to a nice young white couple; Wal-Mart employees living paycheck to paycheck. They aren’t married.”

I wouldn’t even refer to these people as a “couple”; they’re cheapening the word.


45 posted on 08/29/2011 4:33:27 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Borough Park

The dirty little secret is that the EEO put women in jobs because they were cheap and pushed men, especially black men, out the bottom.


46 posted on 08/29/2011 4:36:23 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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To: ffusco
The generation before mine destroyed practically all the institutions and cultural norms that made America great by rejecting virtually everything their parents- the greatest generation- taught them.

It was your "greatest generation" that gave us LBJ with his Great Society, Medicare, Medicaid, National Broadcasting and War on Poverty. That generation also gave us Nixon and OSHA, the EPA and Affirmative Action.

47 posted on 08/29/2011 4:37:55 AM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: ffusco; ErnBatavia; dalereed

ErnBatavia- You get a lot of credit in reply number two. Makes me sort of jealous that I was born too soon to be a real “boomer”. Next you boomers will destroy, apple pie, base ball and motherhood.

DaleReed- We don’t get any of the credit!


48 posted on 08/29/2011 4:48:57 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: ffusco
The boomers have destroyed (in my lifetime) the family, marriage, sex, objectivity, morality, piety, a sense of shame, privacy, community, personal responsibility and the economy. Is there anything left the eternal adolescents wont destroy?

If you knew any real history you'd know that most of the changes you decry were instituted by the Greatest Generation and the Korean era generation, and NOT by boomers.

Most changes began before most boomers could even vote. They were simply in their youth as the GG began changing many traditions and institutions. Boomers were never in most positions of authority until the mid-'80s to the early '90s. The changes had been taking place long before then.

SCOTUS handed down the Rowe vs. Wade in 1973. How did the boomer SCOTUS justices vote on that? How many voted for the War on Poverty in 1965? That's when much of the deterioration began. The oldest boomers were 20 in 1965.

Blaming boomers for all the changes you list is like blaming today's teenagers and college kids for tattoos, Obamacare and the financial crisis.

49 posted on 08/29/2011 5:00:13 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88

I’m feeling left out. :(

Nobody wants to blame my generation (the silent generation) for anything. {:^(


50 posted on 08/29/2011 5:06:44 AM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: CGalen
3. got a good paying job and started a family

White males need not apply.

51 posted on 08/29/2011 5:10:34 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Roccus
Nobody wants to blame my generation (the silent generation) for anything. {:^(

Well, tell us the years in which that generation was born and we can probably come up with something that happened before you could even vote to blame on you and your generation.

(I can't keep up with all these new generational designations.)

52 posted on 08/29/2011 5:14:09 AM PDT by Will88
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To: ffusco
Every generation prior to mine could look forward to a higher standard of living, rising property values and a social security check.

Wrongo!!! Higher standard of living, yes, reward for their hard work.
Rising property values occured along with everything else but was not the goal in itself largely because people stayed put. Speculators and flippers were the “big boys”. In previous generations the stock market was limited to market nerds and big money. All that stock stuff was printed in the newspaper, really time consuming and specialized. Totally different mindset from today.
Social security was a trap set for the “something for nothing” crowd from the beginning. People who were paying attention hated FDR and his socialist policies.
Life kinda works the way it did during the American Revolution. Approx: One third of the people fought like hell. One third of the people were pro-royalists. One third stayed home and didn't give a damn.
We occasionally go to the big city, Santa Fe, New Mexico. We don't stay long...it's an enclave of every liberal, new age, old hippy, pagan religion, odd ball thing you can imagine. It's an embarrassment to the rest of us. I never went to college. I went to work in San Fransisco after high school in a downtown cafeteria. Wonderful place to see people, 1966. The hippy movement was exploding out of SFSU, and into the Haight Ashbury, free love drug culture. It was like it happened overnight! What a freak show! Big hair, weird clothes. I would look up from carving meat and laugh out loud at some of my customers. Where did these people come from? How did this happen? How could this foment in our universities and nobody notice? WHERE WERE THEIR PARENTS? It's a long boring story, but our public schools were already full of godless, liberal teachers deliberately undermining American history, Christian faith, morality, truth and patriotism when I was in Jr High and High School. The bottom line is, man apart from God is hopelessly selfish and evil. The hope of cure for any disease is the right diagnosis, in this case it's sin. Really living, real life is the never ending fight for truth. Always has been, will always be.

53 posted on 08/29/2011 5:15:19 AM PDT by WestwardHo
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To: Will88

IIRC, 1925 to 1945.


54 posted on 08/29/2011 5:15:34 AM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: Roccus
IIRC, 1925 to 1945.

Well, obviously, if that generation didn't cause the Great Depression, it at least prolonged it and can clearly be blamed for all the progressive, big government programs implemented by FDR before the oldest members of the generation turned 21.

That's similar to the criteria used to blame boomers for practically every problem since the end of WWII.

55 posted on 08/29/2011 5:29:15 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Borough Park

Blacks and women hit hardest.


56 posted on 08/29/2011 5:30:03 AM PDT by mike-zed
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To: Will88

Some have described the silent generation as the “traditionalists”....I think I like that better.


57 posted on 08/29/2011 5:32:09 AM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: CMailBag
How about calling it “RIGHT-TO-WORK DAY”??

I like that. I am going to start doing just that.

58 posted on 08/29/2011 5:35:41 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Don't mend SS, end it.)
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To: WestwardHo
Well said. Bears repeating:

Turn off the TV. Rarely, rarely take in a movie. Borrow books from Boomers who have wonderful libraries that don’t follow the current culture. You don’t have to be an over-the-hill hippy type to live simply, mostly stay out of debt (low mortgage), enjoy your family, find your fun by working hard...

I’m 63, and strongly influenced by my parents and the way they lived after going through the Great Depression. My husband and I think very carefully about accumulating things we need, and not accumulating a lot of stuff for the heck of it.

If you want to have a happy life believe God is who He says He is, fight for your family, resist the culture, love what is good, be good to your neighbor, love your country. Remember, life is short, pack it full of good deeds, hard work and happy memories.

There are a lot of us Boomers that live just like my family does. We’re just not making a lot of noise.

It’s not a matter of taking us back to the wonderful,mystical ‘50’s. It’s being your best, and doing what is right in the midst of current events, and the times you’ve been given.

-WestwardHo

59 posted on 08/29/2011 5:38:03 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (O assumes the trappings of the presidency, not its mantle. He is not presidential.)
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To: Will88

The Great Society policies of the greatest generation were done during the height of US prosperity and power. The failure of these policies were not seen until the next generation who chose to expand and perpetuate those policies. It was the Boomers that made drug use, promiscuity, divorce, co-habitation, single parenthood socially acceptable and gave us the “Me Generation” of the 80’s.


60 posted on 08/29/2011 5:40:12 AM PDT by ffusco (The President will return this country to what it once was...An arctic wasteland covered in ice.)
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