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Buchanan: Bush Broke United States As A Superpower
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 08/29/2011 4:57:57 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

Pat Buchanan regularly serves as Morning Joe's lone conservative in the show's self-described 10:1 ratio of lib to conservative guests. But Buchanan this morning demonstrated that he is anything but a Republican partisan.

Sounding more like Barney Frank after a bad night's sleep, Buchanan blasted President George W. Bush, claiming 43 "broke the Republican party and frankly he broke the United States as a superpower." View the video here.

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1 posted on 08/29/2011 4:58:01 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: netmilsmom; Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; Diogenesis; MEG33; PGalt; ...

Buchanan says George W. Bush “broke the United States as a superpower.” Ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 08/29/2011 4:59:17 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (FReepmail or ping me to be put on my ping list for criticism of liberal media)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

If anything, Bush followed others and did too much of the same things.

After all, our policy of getting involved in wars and staying involved for decades has been going on since Korea.


3 posted on 08/29/2011 5:02:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

True enough, Pat.

When a left-of-center ‘moderate’ (stands for nothing) backed up by a leftist Congress spending and degradation happens to a nation.


4 posted on 08/29/2011 5:04:15 AM PDT by IbJensen (God made idiots. That was for practice. Then he made politicians.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Truth be told, it was inevitable that the US would be broke as a superpower with its continued insistence to be the world’s policeman and mounting national debt. =.=


5 posted on 08/29/2011 5:04:34 AM PDT by cranked
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Buchanan building his creds with the MSNBC clowns. Must be time for contract renewal.
6 posted on 08/29/2011 5:05:17 AM PDT by liberalcide1
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Not broke yet Pat, not broke yet.


7 posted on 08/29/2011 5:05:17 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately--reason serves faith.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
McCain and the Messiah broke the power of the United States. McCain by whining that he should get the nomination by virtue of his plane crashing the third time and helping elect the Messiah. With the Messiah it is pretty obvious what he is doing. His Lenninesque debauching of the currency; his trashing of our allies; his terrorizing of businesses here (ensuring continued economic decline); etc.

Maybe Buchanan hates Bush (43) because he perceives to be friendly toward the Jews.

8 posted on 08/29/2011 5:05:55 AM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
George Bush is one of the worst Presidents in U.S. history--and that's saying plenty--just a notch above Bill Clinton, Warren Harding, Lyndon Johnson, and Rock-bottom Worst President Ever Jimmy "Peanut" Carter.

Rick Perry's got a lot to overcome--mainly his resemblance to George Bush.

9 posted on 08/29/2011 5:06:29 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("That is the great eternal question: Are 'Liberals' evil or stupid?" ~Ann Coulter)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Pat Buchanan has been “broke” as a political commentator long before George W Bush.


10 posted on 08/29/2011 5:08:58 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The only two good things in the eight years of Bush were Alito and Roberts. That’s all! His judgments were wrong about Iraq. No Child Left Behind was a failure. This is the trappings of “Compassionate conservatism”. Give me a Rick Perry any day who isn’t afraid to be a conservative and is consistant in his determination to live within our means. Another stupid Bushism is this mercury light bulb we are forced to buy soon. That bill was absolutely foolish. We don’t need conservative talkers who govern as libs. We need another Ronald Reagan who actually believes in limited government. I even like Ron Paul. He has his convictions and he stands by them. I’m sick of politicians who talk one way and govern the opposite way.


11 posted on 08/29/2011 5:11:21 AM PDT by sgfan1212
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Sad but true.


12 posted on 08/29/2011 5:11:55 AM PDT by schmootman
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Buchanan, worried that Ron Paul has been getting too much of the “Republican Nut” attention lately.


13 posted on 08/29/2011 5:12:11 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Sour grapes from a has been wishhewas

Pat is a tired old man who is totally irrelevant. Paying him is poking money down a rat hole.


14 posted on 08/29/2011 5:14:04 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Yeah, that Shock And Awe was really limp-wristed, wasn't it?

Say, can't recall seeing any other nation organize and execute anything like that since. Or before.

Nitwit.

15 posted on 08/29/2011 5:15:13 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Pat’s off his meds again!


16 posted on 08/29/2011 5:16:33 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: bert
Paying him is poking money down a rat hole.

I guess it's worth it to them to get someone with a name to slander President Bush.

17 posted on 08/29/2011 5:16:47 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: cripplecreek

The policy of dumping trillions into setting up Sharia states however, was new.


18 posted on 08/29/2011 5:17:12 AM PDT by icanhasbailout (Draft Napolitano 2012)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; Liz; calcowgirl; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; ...

It wasnt just the war spending itself but the fact that war spending, especially when it becomes unpopular, is always followed by run-ups in other non-war spending (war and welfare) as a political sweetener. Bush certainly confirmed that rule with the blank check.
On talk radio there has been lots of ‘If only Bush just spent on the military but not on.....’ but it’s not realistic politically.

Then add the housing bubble run-up mistaken as a growing economy and Greenspan’s low interest rates to fund it all along with tax cuts and you got a bad situation which Obama runs with. This is how Rome fell and how Jame’s Dale Davidson predicted we would follow.


19 posted on 08/29/2011 5:19:31 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama :"We all were undocumented workers once")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Interesting comments here - and I guess I “feel strongly both ways”

Bush was moderate to liberal in a lot of ways - leading to failure - which led to Obama. That is an awful legacy. But Pat B. is no classic conservative. He is an isolationist and pro labor in ways that keep him way outside a “Reagan” camp. And he loves attention.


20 posted on 08/29/2011 5:23:09 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Pat is not a conservative.


21 posted on 08/29/2011 5:25:45 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I want a Triple A president for our Triple A country)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Buchanan STAYS an ass.

Bush is one of many who damaged the US, but perhaps no greater claim to destruction can be made by our very own Barak OTrauma.

22 posted on 08/29/2011 5:27:37 AM PDT by Lazamataz (SmithL stole my tagline and won't give it back.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“Conservative” - since when ..??


23 posted on 08/29/2011 5:28:04 AM PDT by The Final Harvest ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Well gosh Pat.

That’s so helpful of you to say.

Have you been sleeping for the last 3 years? Glad you’re focused on the country’s problems like that. Gee.

Go back to sleep now. Good grief.


24 posted on 08/29/2011 5:29:32 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: sickoflibs; calcowgirl; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker
It wasnt just the war spending itself but the fact that war spending, especially when it becomes unpopular, is always followed by run-ups in other non-war spending (war and welfare) as a political sweetener.

True, Bush needed that quid pro quo while he was POTUS, plus there is that political pendulum that swept in Obama and Company to get even WRT spending for the wars, TARP, tax cuts.

25 posted on 08/29/2011 5:36:20 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I’ve commented several times that after the election of 2004, Republicans were probably their strongest position since WWII, and after the election of 2008, the party was in its weakest position since WWII.

Many seem to agree that W’s second term was a disaster for the Republican party and maybe for the nation. Buchanan has a point on much of what he said.


26 posted on 08/29/2011 5:38:20 AM PDT by Will88
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Broke the US by kicking AQ, Iraq and Afghanistan’s butt?

Or maybe it’s the JOOOOOS fault.


27 posted on 08/29/2011 5:39:44 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: sgfan1212
The only two good things in the eight years of Bush were Alito and Roberts.

And those two were not W's first choices. Harriet Miers was his first choice for the second opening, and there's good evidence that Alberto Gonzalez was his first choice for the first opening. He was dissuaded from the Miers appointment in public, and maybe from a Gonzalez appointment in private.

28 posted on 08/29/2011 5:41:51 AM PDT by Will88
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; calcowgirl; stephenjohnbanker
RE :"It wasnt just the war spending itself but the fact that war spending, especially when it becomes unpopular, is always followed by run-ups in other non-war spending (war and welfare) as a political sweetener........ True, Bush needed that quid pro quo while he was POTUS, plus there is that political pendulum that swept in Obama and Company to get even WRT spending for the wars, TARP, tax cuts"

The benefit of having Obama as POTUS over a Bush or McCain is that Republicans will actually oppose bankrupting the country under Obama, as opposed to making excuses for it under a Bush/McCain:

"He kept us safe' was the all purpose excuse that didnt seem to catch fire with most voters.

29 posted on 08/29/2011 5:42:45 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama :"We all were undocumented workers once")
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To: sgfan1212

‘Cept Captain Gardasil ain’t a Conservative.


30 posted on 08/29/2011 5:43:15 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Pat Buchanan has been “broke” as a political commentator long before George W Bush.

Poster child for everything liberals love to bash conservatives with. Flirts with racism, antisemitism, nazi sympathy. Once he was the lone conservative on CNN crossfire. I thank you for your service . Now go away.

31 posted on 08/29/2011 5:45:21 AM PDT by Calusa (The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles. Quoth Bob Dylan.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Buchanan is a disgrace...... Thinking is obviously not his forte


32 posted on 08/29/2011 5:48:21 AM PDT by woofie
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

W sucked, Pat is correct.


33 posted on 08/29/2011 5:48:58 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Savage Beast

God forbid we ever have a president who keeps strong growth for years at a time, keeps tax burdens low, appoints two strong conservatives to the USSC and builds a stronger miliary.

I sure hope we never have that again. Bush had a couple major faults, but so does any president. He was poor on spending, and terrible on illegal immigration. Even on those he was better than the other party by far.

His biggest fault was a dramatically poor public relations effort after reelection. That is is what killed the republican party. Even when they were doing the right thing, the message was not communicated. Po


34 posted on 08/29/2011 5:50:43 AM PDT by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Yeah...only a weak, non-Super Power could topple Saddam, switch Iraq to democracy and set up a HQ between Iran and Pakistan in Afganistan thereby planting a US presence in the heartland of Islam, right Pat?

Sheesh...get a CLUE!

35 posted on 08/29/2011 5:50:57 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: sickoflibs
The benefit of having Obama as POTUS over a Bush or McCain is that Republicans will actually oppose bankrupting the country under Obama, as opposed to making excuses for it under a Bush/McCain:

I agree, but I am also worried about the increasing likelihood of Obama putting more rogue justices on the SCOTUS.

36 posted on 08/29/2011 5:51:45 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: ilgipper
we ever have a president who keeps strong growth for years at a time, keeps tax burdens low

Despite a major terror attack, a major war, and a major natural disaster.

Obama...eat your weak lily-livered heart out.

37 posted on 08/29/2011 5:52:58 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Tzfat
I watched a CSpan show,for over an hour, when Pat Buchanan debated his position that the British and the world would have been better off without Churchill.

Buchanan and Paul are vying for regular positions on the George Norry nighttime Coast to Coast radio show.

What are their beliefs regarding the World Tower attacks were an inside job known to George Bush beforehand?

38 posted on 08/29/2011 5:53:16 AM PDT by BilLies (330,000 northern whites died between 1861-65 so that Obama could use Affirmative Action.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
RE :"I agree, but I am also worried about the increasing likelihood of Obama putting more rogue justices on the SCOTUS. "

So far he hasnt changed the balance, we are better off on the SCOTUS than we were in 2001 as O Conner was a disaster.

Would you trade to get another Roberts like justice for accepting full Bush type amnesty"? (Would still require a Republican Senate)

39 posted on 08/29/2011 5:57:05 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama :"We all were undocumented workers once")
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To: CyberAnt

Pat Buchanan very nearly put Al Gore in the White House—his vanity campaign in 2000 undoubtedly drew more votes from Bush than from Gore.


40 posted on 08/29/2011 6:00:00 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

I’m sorry .. that doesn’t make him a conservative.


41 posted on 08/29/2011 6:03:28 AM PDT by The Final Harvest ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Pat is a fool, obviously, but it’s disappointing so many “Freepers” are agreeing with him and the national media that Bush was a horrible president.

Who did all you haters vote for again? Disgraceful.


42 posted on 08/29/2011 6:03:47 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Savage Beast
George Bush is one of the worst Presidents in U.S. history Which indicates a complete historical ignorance on your part.
43 posted on 08/29/2011 6:05:19 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Buchanan is an idiot, well past his prime.

Did anyone see the Bush interview re: 9/11 on National Geographic last night? Excellent.


44 posted on 08/29/2011 6:05:51 AM PDT by Jedidah (I'll vote for an earthworm before I'll vote for Obama. So wiggle on in, Rick Perry.)
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To: sickoflibs

On Judicial appointments alone your “Hate Bush Always” dogma is proven idiotic and ignorant.


45 posted on 08/29/2011 6:06:54 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: jpsb
Pat is a moron. On Judges alone your “hate Bush always” dogma is prove idiotic and ignorant.
46 posted on 08/29/2011 6:07:39 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Will88

Pure nonsense.


47 posted on 08/29/2011 6:08:13 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: ilgipper
"His biggest fault was a dramatically poor public relations effort after reelection."

No. Not by a long shot! It's hard to decide, but his biggest fault was either (1) SPENDING more of the American working man and woman's hard earned money than any President since Lyndon Johnson or (2) INCREASING the burden of entitlements on the same working man and woman or (3) REFUSING to enforce U.S. immigration laws IN VIOLATION of his oath of office to uphold U.S. law.

"Poor on spending, and terrible on illegal immigration" indeed!

I repeat: He's one of the worst Presidents in U.S. history--and this from one of his--FORMER--most enthusiastic and loyal supporters.

One of the stupidest things he did was alienate US--us who had worked for him, campagned for him, praised him (here on FR and elsewhere), and even nominated him for Mount Rushmore! He had to go WAY out of this way to do that, but he managed to do it.

Just take an honest look at the facts! Bush was a FAILURE!

48 posted on 08/29/2011 6:09:47 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("That is the great eternal question: Are 'Liberals' evil or stupid?" ~Ann Coulter)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
RE :"I agree, but I am also worried about the increasing likelihood of Obama putting more rogue justices on the SCOTUS."

Fall 2008 before the election McCain went on The View to be seen by female voters I guess, and the subject of the SCOTUS naturally came up. Whoopie Goldberg told McCain that a 'strict construction' of the constitution would re-impose slavery. Mccain's response??? "I respectfully disagree"

My point is that Republicans have never been any good at explaining why liberals justices are so bad for this country. They cant even explain why the above is non-sense, and Bachman didnt help any on that subject when she talked about it. They need to take a course lecture given by justice Scalia on how to explain it. He is the only one I have ever seen that can articulate it well.

49 posted on 08/29/2011 6:11:14 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama :"We all were undocumented workers once")
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To: sickoflibs
Then add the housing bubble run-up

As usual you ignore the fact that both Bush and McCain tried to reform but were blocked by Barny Frank in he House and Chris Dood (both Democrats) in the Senate.

But I know, actually having to hold your idols in the Democrat party accountable for THEIR actions is far to hard for you. So much easier to spend all your time shooting your political allies in the back instead.

And then you wonder why you get your political butt kicked on issue after issue?

50 posted on 08/29/2011 6:11:19 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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