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Buchanan: Bush Broke United States As A Superpower
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 08/29/2011 4:57:57 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

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To: BilLies

Not sure I’ve ever heard Pat Buchanan on Coast to Coast AM.

I admire Buchanan’s ‘say what he thinks’ personal independence and his position against globalism - which is certainly bold considering the mental headlock “free trade” has on both sides of the aisle. But it does nobody any good to adopt pretty much the left’s talking points about an administration which ended 3 years ago.

What’s the point Pat?

Get with the program, and either support someone for 2012, or speak up against Obama.

Pick a lane.


61 posted on 08/29/2011 6:24:37 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: sickoflibs
Last Bush with a GOP Congress Deficit 2006: $169 Billion

Last 0 with a Dem Congress Deficit 2010: $1.7 trillion

But as usual you cannot be bothered with the facts when they confound your emotion based dogmas.

62 posted on 08/29/2011 6:25:35 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: sickoflibs
The irony here is that the American Dream Downpayment Act was sponsored entirely by Republicans, including "conservatives" like Sessions and Santorum.
63 posted on 08/29/2011 6:25:43 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
When Pelosi won, bush said “ Maybe we can finally do something about “comprehensive immigration reform “.

FUGWB!!!

64 posted on 08/29/2011 6:29:13 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: MNJohnnie; calcowgirl; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Impy; ...
RE :"Last Bush with a GOP Congress Deficit 2006: $169 BillionLast 0 with a Dem Congress Deficit 2010: $1.7 trillion"

OH, so you give Bush a free pass for the astronomical spending in his last two years 2007 to 2008 because he lost control of the congress?? So the POTUS has nothing to do with spending?? Great defense for Obama to use, I am sure he will thank you.

What about the new entitlement Bush pushed in 2004 all tacked onto the national debt? He gets a pass on that too in 2007 to 2008?

65 posted on 08/29/2011 6:33:13 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama :"We all were undocumented workers once")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Buchanan’s foreign policy would have us defeated as the world’s superpower.


66 posted on 08/29/2011 6:36:35 AM PDT by Politics4US
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To: MNJohnnie

Yes are getting very close to history writing time for W, I am confident the verdict will not be pretty. He should be giving credit for finally, after being severely beaten about the head and shoulders, nominating good justices to the Supreme court. Other than that, from a conservative perspective, his presidency was a monumental failure.

So badly was conservatism (as practiced by Bush) repudiated by the general population that a black Muslim/Marxist was elected president. So greatly does the nation fear another “Bush” in the White House that Texan Perrys’ biggest obstacle in the GOP primary is that he might be another Bush.

The Bush legacy is never ending wars against an enemy growing in strength while we weaken. A collapsed economy with a huge national debt. A federal government far bigger then he inherited, spending far more then it used to spend. And of course the Obama Administration.

Not much there to be proud of.


67 posted on 08/29/2011 6:38:19 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: rabscuttle385; ex-Texan; All

” The irony here is that the American Dream Downpayment Act was sponsored entirely by Republicans, including “conservatives” like Sessions and Santorum.”

This irony is not lost on me. I started warning FReeper in mid 2006 that “investment houses” would kill them!


68 posted on 08/29/2011 6:38:54 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: MNJohnnie; calcowgirl; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Impy; ...
From : Things I don’t miss about George W. Bush, By Michelle Malkin February 9, 2010

Her list:

1) joined with open-borders progressives McCain and Kennedy to try to force shamnesty down our throats;

2) massively expanded the federal role in education;

3) championed the Medicare prescription drug entitlement using phony math;

4) kowtowed to the jihadi-enabling Saudis;

5) stocked DHS with incompetents and cronies;

6) pushed Hillarycare for housing;

7) enabled turncoat Arlen Specter;

8. nominated crony Harriet Myers to the Supreme Court;

9) pre-socialized the economy for Obama by embracing TARP, the auto bailouts, the AIG bailout, and in his own words:

I’ve abandoned free-market principles to save the free-market system.”
– George W. Bush

No, I don’t miss having a corporate socialist Republican in the White House any more than I like having a corporate socialist Democrat in the White House now.

Things I don’t miss about George W. Bush, By Michelle Malkin February 9, 2010

69 posted on 08/29/2011 6:38:58 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama :"We all were undocumented workers once")
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To: sickoflibs; DoughtyOne; stephenjohnbanker
Would you trade to get another Roberts like justice for accepting full Bush type amnesty"?

No way. However, imagine Eric Holder clones (probably with "moderate" sounding public records) replacing Scalia and Thomas. That would be a huge loss. The left has been planning for this for a long time, and it might be a lot easier than passing amnesty in a bad economy. Do you think the GOP senators have the nerve to filibuster such a nominee?

I don't want amnesty or a leftist SCOTUS, but I know either is possible. All we can do is study the GOP candidates diligently and use our best judgment, taking into account both their positions and probability of being elected.

70 posted on 08/29/2011 6:39:24 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: jpsb; All

” So greatly does the nation fear another “Bush” in the White House that Texan Perrys’ biggest obstacle in the GOP primary is that he might be another Bush.”

Look at Perry’s history.....he IS another Bush!!


71 posted on 08/29/2011 6:41:01 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: MNJohnnie
In WWII the Allies bombed the church that held DiVinci’s “The Last Supper”. Imagine that! **THAT** was their commitment to crushing fascism under the heal of rational Western Civilization.

Personally, I am tired of Vietnams, and Iraqs, and Afganistans, and “winning the hearts and minds of the people”.

If the U.S. is not totally and completely **dedicated** with single minded purpose of getting a complete, total, and fundamental attitude change from **all** of the enemy's people, then it isn't worth the lives of those who must go to fight. And...The dollars spent to fund these “actions” also represent hours of **life** spent in labor to create those dollars.

72 posted on 08/29/2011 6:42:59 AM PDT by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; All

THE PROBLEM IS THAT THUS FAR, WE HAVE NOBODY WHO IS ANY GOOD THAT HAS COUGHT FIRE.

DeMint was my first choice, nobody else even comes close.


73 posted on 08/29/2011 6:44:10 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: sgfan1212
The only two good things in the eight years of Bush were Alito and Roberts.

And if it wasn't for conservative pressure we would have had Harriet Myers
74 posted on 08/29/2011 6:46:41 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: stephenjohnbanker

This Texan is still on the fence re Perry, waiting on Sarah.


75 posted on 08/29/2011 6:47:29 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: rabscuttle385; calcowgirl; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Impy; ...
RE :"The irony here is that the American Dream Downpayment Act was sponsored entirely by Republicans, including "conservatives" like Sessions and Santorum. "

Back in those days 2002 to 2004 the Republicans conventional wisdom was that Bush was going to pull minority voters away from Democrats. But that plan only would have worked if the Housing bubble was real sustained growth and those minorities saw themselves benefiting economically from it and home ownership.

Instead of that by getting them involved with a Housing bubble (with the help of Democrats) that was sure to collapse (you hear one Republican predicting this in 2003 ?) and then trying to point fingers elsewear after the collapse and forclosures was a disasterous set of events/policy for Republicans. Only Obama appears capable of turning mionorities off to Democrats now.

76 posted on 08/29/2011 6:48:32 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama :"We all were undocumented workers once")
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To: MNJohnnie
Just wanted to remind you that in his first SOTU, ( before 9/11)Bush called for a fedral program to provide the down payments for poor people it who didn't have..so that they could buy homes,

We conservatives reflexively defend W, in part because of the relentless attacks he was subjected to for 8 years, but let's be fair...compared to Gore, we, as a nation, were blessed that W was in office on 9/11. He made the hard decisions, kept us safe...there were NO more attacks..and we are fortunate. However, he was not a traditional conservative..that "compassionate conservatism" early on was the giveaway..and while we all correctly praise him for Roberts and Alito, he also tried, against almost universal advice not to, give us Harriet on SCOTUS.....and early on, again, before 9'11//he all but sucked up to the Swimmer..basically let Ted write the Education bill.

77 posted on 08/29/2011 6:48:59 AM PDT by ken5050 (Should Christie RUN in 2012? NO!!! But he should WALK three miles every day!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Buchanan blasted President George W. Bush, claiming 43 "broke the Republican party and frankly he broke the United States as a superpower.

George W. Bush is a mashed thumb. Barack Obama is a gangrenous leg. And Buchanan wastes time on George W. Bush instead of the real and present danger.
78 posted on 08/29/2011 6:50:29 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: jpsb; sickoflibs
No matter how deeply held the opinion when it is based on complete factual ignorance, it remains idiotic.

Holding on to the opinion in the face of all facts, is childish.

Sorry the real world doesn't work the way your political dogmas say it should.

79 posted on 08/29/2011 6:51:47 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Buchanan ran against Bush in the 2000 primaries because he said Bush abandoned GOP principles

BUT he had no problem staying in the Nixon administration when Nixon abandoned anything conservative and went liberal

What a hypocrite


80 posted on 08/29/2011 6:52:18 AM PDT by uncbob
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