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Postal Service paying fewer workers to do nothing
Washington Post ^ | August 29, 2011 | Ed O'Keefe

Posted on 08/29/2011 6:27:44 AM PDT by Second Amendment First

The U.S. Postal Service, expecting $7 billion in losses this year amid slumping mail volume, is still paying thousands of its workers millions of dollars each year to do nothing.

But it’s paying tens of millions of dollars less for “standby time” than it did just two years ago, according to a new report.

Long-standing labor agreements with two major postal unions prohibit the Postal Service from laying off or reassigning workers because of broken equipment or periods of low mail volume. Instead, idled employees show up for work, sit in a break room or cafeteria and do nothing.

Standby time totaled 170,666 hours in the first six months of 2011, costing the Postal Service $4.3 million, according to an audit by the Postal Service inspector general’s office. In 2009, 1.2 million hours were billed at a cost of $30.9 million.

“At a time when the Postal Service is challenged to operate more efficiently, monitoring standby time is critical to ensuring their ability to effectively manage the workforce,” the report said.

Members of the American Postal Workers Union and the National Association of Letter Carriers have been eligible for standby time payments and rarely used the option until 2009, when mail volume began to plummet and the Postal Service started to consolidate processing plants in the Northeast and the Midwest.

Audits of operations in Dallas and Detroit found that many workers incorrectly billed the Postal Service amid lax oversight of such payments.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: postal; postalservice; usps
Something to think about while waiting in line at the post office.
1 posted on 08/29/2011 6:27:45 AM PDT by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First

Just how long can all of this continue? How long?


2 posted on 08/29/2011 6:38:56 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Second Amendment First

I’ve always resented the fact that many post office jobs are filled with people who could never be hired in the private sector, and we all pay the price for this misguided “make work” program.

Charles Bukowski’s book Post Office confirmed what I had long suspected, even though it’s classified as a novel.

And if you really want to feel bad about it, watch the original Miracle on 34th Street and pay attention to the bit about the efficiency of the post office back then.

A stiff adult libation helps.


3 posted on 08/29/2011 6:39:21 AM PDT by Tigerized
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To: Second Amendment First

I stood in that stupid line a while back for nearly 30 minutes while one person waited on people and FOUR stood behind and watched him do his job. They did NOTHING to help at the desk!!! NOTHING!!! I don’t care how much it cost next time, it is UPS or Fed Exp. I am DONE with the post office.


4 posted on 08/29/2011 6:40:25 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (EVERY knee shall bow and EVERY mouth shall say: Jesus Christ IS LORD!!!!)
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To: Second Amendment First
Long-standing labor agreements with two major postal unions prohibit the Postal Service from laying off or reassigning workers because of broken equipment or periods of low mail volume.

I know of no private sector labor agreements with that sort of restriction. It is absolutely asinine.

5 posted on 08/29/2011 6:40:25 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: RetiredArmy

Its Fed Ex for me, I hate supporting the UPS union.

If you must use the Post Office having a service like stamps.com helps as you don’t have to go down to the post office.


6 posted on 08/29/2011 6:42:49 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Don Corleone

GM has those kind of agreements.


7 posted on 08/29/2011 6:43:32 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: muawiyah
Ping.

Here's What I'm Watching TodayTM

8 posted on 08/29/2011 6:44:34 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("I'm Bringing Tagline Back" -- Justin Timberlake, 2002)
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To: driftdiver

UPS lost me when the highest paid part-time workers in America went on strike.

Much the way MLB last me.


9 posted on 08/29/2011 6:54:09 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: driftdiver

UPS lost me when the highest paid part-time workers in America went on strike.

Much the way MLB lost me.


10 posted on 08/29/2011 6:54:21 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Second Amendment First

i’ve observed unbelievable behaviors across the u.s. in their buildings.

if private businesses functioned as usps does, they’d have gone broke a long time ago.


11 posted on 08/29/2011 6:54:45 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: Second Amendment First
But it’s paying tens of millions of dollars less for “standby time” than it did just two years ago, according to a new report.

USPS Motto: "Our situation is improving! Things are getting worse at a slower rate!

12 posted on 08/29/2011 6:58:20 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: RetiredArmy

In the financial district of DT L.A., there are 5 offices. EVERY ONE of them are spacious enough to accommodate 4 clerks and most of the time, they have ONE on staff. Now what the heck, are the rest doing?


13 posted on 08/29/2011 7:22:59 AM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: max americana
In the financial district of DT L.A., there are 5 offices. EVERY ONE of them are spacious enough to accommodate 4 clerks and most of the time, they have ONE on staff. Now what the heck, are the rest doing?

Checking the address labels on the issues of "Playboy" and "Hustler" - y'now, to make sure they're using the Zip+4... ;-)

14 posted on 08/29/2011 7:46:09 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Last week in the mail I received ads. Not a single thing worth taking out of the mailbox.

They could lay off our carrier and no one would notice except the garbage men.


15 posted on 08/29/2011 8:14:08 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: RetiredArmy
That's been explained to you so many times it's probably not worth telling you about it again, so here it goes ~ the folks working at the counter have accountable stock and handle cash. The people you see over moving mail around are not assigned a cash drawer. They can't help you.

You encounter the same thing at the grocery store. There are folks cutting meat, some laying out vegetables and fruits, and others stocking canned goods. Then there are the people at the cashregister ~ they handle cash.

Let me put it another way ~ on payday, back in the Army's good old days, the pay officer would show up with some armed guards at a table and the troops would line up to get their pay (actually, their net cash out).

I've done that ~ stand in line for pay in the Army. NOT ONE TIME did the Battalion commander, who was just standing around come over and offer to hand the cash out faster so we could get out of there.

So, why was that? Well, it's because he did not have accountability for that cash.

There ~ if you need it explained again see your doctor.

16 posted on 08/29/2011 2:38:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Second Amendment First
Not that $30 mil is not serious bucks, but it's .05% (5/100ths of 1%) of total postal labor costs. Comes in at about $27 per year per employee.

Most private companies not only do not manage their workhour components that closely, they can't.

17 posted on 08/29/2011 2:48:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Okay smart ass, I will tell you like it was. These people come and went for nearly 30 minutes. They come out and yell something and ask if someone wants to drop anything off or pick up. Then when no one does, they just STAND THERE. THEY DO NOTHING!!! So, SIGN FOR THE STINKING DRAWER and actually do something to assist the people standing in line instead of standing there with arms folded, GETTING PAID, and doing absolutely NOTHING for over 15 minutes!! I assume YOU are a postal worker. It can only explain your smart assed answer. Whether I was told or not, your smart assed remarks are just that, smarted assed remarks defending people getting paid to DO NOTHING! So, yours smart ass.


18 posted on 08/29/2011 6:09:21 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (EVERY knee shall bow and EVERY mouth shall say: Jesus Christ IS LORD!!!!)
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To: RetiredArmy
It's not as simple as "signing for a drawer". Besides a certain amount of cash your average window clerk has an undisclosable value in POSTAGE STAMPS plus BLANK MONEY ORDERS to deal with. It takes a good 20 minutes to close out a drawer at the end of a tour.

So, "smart a$$", it's much more like the pay officer than it is a grocery store clerk's position.

Someday you should make some noise. Just ask 'em ~ "Hey, what are you people doing just standing there. Take care of me."

I'm sure they'll meet your wildest expectations!

19 posted on 08/29/2011 6:29:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Sure not as simple mr union man. Sure. Go back to DU.


20 posted on 08/30/2011 3:35:54 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (EVERY knee shall bow and EVERY mouth shall say: Jesus Christ IS LORD!!!!)
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To: RetiredArmy
I told you, just start shouting out ~ loudly ~ that you want service. They'll "get to you".

Maybe you could leap over the counter and help yourself.

21 posted on 08/30/2011 5:03:23 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Okay DUer. I do it like you dimocrats do it. Thug style. Sure. AH.


22 posted on 08/30/2011 5:05:48 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (EVERY knee shall bow and EVERY mouth shall say: Jesus Christ IS LORD!!!!)
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To: RetiredArmy
I think I saw you barging ahead of line at the automated checkout at the Safeway recently.

Just can't wait your turn eh!

Was the scanner too slow for you or something?

23 posted on 08/30/2011 5:40:58 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Second Amendment First

Wow I am goign to have to move all my bills to online bill pay.


24 posted on 09/06/2011 10:57:34 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: RetiredArmy; muawiyah
Yes, the person working the PO counter deals with cash and accountable stock. Meanwhile, I can buy stamps at my supermarket for the same rate that the PO sells them, so once a year or so I buy a big package of "forever" stamps at Costco, which lasts the year. Money orders could also be subcontracted to supermarkets (where the customer service desk already deals with Western Union money transfers). The main thing I need a post office clerk for is to weigh and stamp oversize envelopes and packages, and if there was a line for that which just accepted credit/debit cards, then there would be no need for a cash drawer there.

My local Staples has a UPS package drop-off counter. I'm sure they could also deal with packages for the Post Office.

25 posted on 09/06/2011 11:10:32 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: PapaBear3625
The big business at the counters consists of registry, certified, pick ups, .....

It's also a really good idea to restrict access to credit card acceptance ~ there are a gazillion ways to cheat.

26 posted on 09/06/2011 11:15:38 AM PDT by muawiyah
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