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Rick Perry has Distanced Himself from George W. Bush's Brand of Conservatism
Washington Post ^ | August 29, 2011 | Perry Bacon Jr.

Posted on 08/29/2011 6:46:20 AM PDT by DRey

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To: DRey

You are kidding aren’t you...the narrowness of his statement is quite glaring. None of the declared and/or undeclared have ever lived in a border state. They have never had to deal with that issue. Perry has done an outstanding job with this one issue. The negatives pushed are taken out of context, misleading and flat out lies. Comparing apples to oranges comes to mind.


51 posted on 08/29/2011 7:18:30 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Jeff Head
You're right about Perry and his weakness on illegals, but like it or not, they're here and we have to deal with them in some way. I would like to see them all carted up and shipped back home, but it's very clear now that no one is going to advocate that--at least no one who will ever get near the Oval Office--so we are left with how to deal with them.

Perry wants to lock down the borders to stop both the drug traffic and the coyotes smuggling illegals, I'm pleased with that. He is for some sort of permitted work status for illegals; not great, but better than leaving them completely undocumented and still within the borders.

. . . And then there's the Texas Dream Act . . . again, not what I would want, but better to have them educated and literate than ignorant and on welfare--and the Texas Dream Act is not the total sell out that the Democrats "Dream Act" is.

Yeah, illegal immigration is his weak point, but he is strong in so much else in which I believe, that I must support his campaign.

Perry is by far the most electable conservative in the race. He is capable of galvanizing the American electorate behind the right like no one since Reagan.
52 posted on 08/29/2011 7:20:27 AM PDT by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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To: Graneros
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think I would LOVE to hear Hillary re-enact this speech mocking TOTUS right about now.
53 posted on 08/29/2011 7:21:02 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: cripplecreek

Err...that would be “what’s the matter woman...” and I didn’t know Carney was running. As far as I know, the guy knows his way around a campaign, though.


54 posted on 08/29/2011 7:21:47 AM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: EternalVigilance

Palin also supported Tarp


55 posted on 08/29/2011 7:21:55 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: gogogodzilla

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/rick-perry-distances-himself-from-george-w-bush-in-gop-presidential-race/2011/08/24/gIQAyChdlJ_story.html


56 posted on 08/29/2011 7:23:21 AM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: SueAngel

Done. Thanks.


57 posted on 08/29/2011 7:23:46 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: reasonisfaith
Answer your own question.

Why DON'T we call The United States "The Compassionate United States Of America" or "The Common Sense United States Of America"?

Why doesn't The NFL call itself "The Rough National Football League"?

Why don't hunters call deer meat "gamey flavor deer meat"?

Why doesn't FreeRepublic.com call itself "One Of The Foremost Conservative Websites.com"?

58 posted on 08/29/2011 7:24:33 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: TomGuy

Even Palin says we can’t deport them all.


59 posted on 08/29/2011 7:24:40 AM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: EternalVigilance

Not to mention the Texas state budget went from $49 billion to $90 billion under “smaller government” Rick Perry’s watch, when the population only increased by 25% in that same period.


60 posted on 08/29/2011 7:25:12 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: DRey

Perry’s voter ID law goes into effect this Thursday. Just in time.


61 posted on 08/29/2011 7:26:05 AM PDT by lahargis
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To: shield

Oh, I know. I was commenting on his “rage” factor. I can’t believe how the tone has been lowered of late. What happened to the flamers?


62 posted on 08/29/2011 7:26:35 AM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: shield

To 51 - *APPLAUDISSEMENT*


63 posted on 08/29/2011 7:27:20 AM PDT by jla
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To: reasonisfaith
It doesn’t mean the Washington Post has suddenly become honest. It means the Washington Post has picked the guy they want for the Republican nominee, and that guy is Rick Perry.

That!

64 posted on 08/29/2011 7:28:39 AM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: DRey

Personally I think people should take a long hard look at your posting record before believing anything coming from you.


65 posted on 08/29/2011 7:29:36 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Ding Ding Ding. We have a winner. At this point any body looks good. But I will still hope for Sarah. But we are doing what we do every election. We fight amongst ourselves.. And not just disagree but there are people getting nasty to one another. US Conservatives need to stick together. If it means taking a guy that is conservative in most area we believe in then so be it. But we need to end this Obama disaster. If he is re-elected America is through. I should say “if there is an election”.


66 posted on 08/29/2011 7:30:18 AM PDT by crazydad
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To: vox_freedom

WaPo picked the Republican they want their readers to fear worse than Bush “the conservative.”


67 posted on 08/29/2011 7:30:32 AM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: Tzimisce
You are a fool, because you are crediting people (liberals) with an ability to reason of which they, as proven by their beliefs, are just not capable.

The media HATES Rick Perry and they fear him more than they do Sarah, because he is the one conservative they know can get elected, whereas she cannot (at this time).

Liberals will always tell you who they fear the most by their attacks and the hysteria surrounding them. They feared Sarah when she first appeared and they still do, but not as much as Perry. Perry is the new threat and he is a juggernaut that they know, as weakened as Obama is from his failures, cannot be stopped.
68 posted on 08/29/2011 7:30:57 AM PDT by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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To: crazydad

Agree 100%.


69 posted on 08/29/2011 7:31:31 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: cripplecreek

It’s all there, crip. Have at it.


70 posted on 08/29/2011 7:31:44 AM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: cripplecreek

71 posted on 08/29/2011 7:32:55 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: EternalVigilance

Please provide a source for your assertion that he supported TARP and raising the debt ceiling.

I say he supported neither:

“We are fed up with bailout after bailout and stimulus plan after stimulus plan, each one of which tosses principle out the window along with taxpayer money. We can’t even keep up with all the spending, be it the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP), the auto industry bailout, the AIG bailout, or President Obama’s failed $787 billion ‘Recovery Act.’ The list goes on and on.” “Fed Up!” page 5


72 posted on 08/29/2011 7:33:15 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: normy

And raising the debt ceiling $2.4 TRILLION.


73 posted on 08/29/2011 7:34:02 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The first duty of all: Provide equal protection for the right to life of all innocent persons.)
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To: cripplecreek

Personally I think people should take a long, hard look at your posting history before they pay attention to the drivel and lies you post.


74 posted on 08/29/2011 7:35:04 AM PDT by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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To: reasonisfaith
“But I have no doubt the establishment class would prefer Rick Perry over Sarah Palin,...”

Have you seen any of the polls on Palin, or Perry Vs Obama?

Palin gets crushed and Perry wins. The polls may well be off, or cooked, but if the MSM believes the polls, there is no freaking way they want Perry to get the nomination.

75 posted on 08/29/2011 7:35:04 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: DRey

Importantly, instead of fretting about “compassionate conservatism”, which George W. Bush did, in some impressive ways, put into practice, what is far more to the point is the downside to the absolute monster he created, with “high security state conservatism.”

That is, with the Patriot Act and other enabling legislation, W. Bush deleted more constitutional personal liberty and freedom in the United States than any president since Frank Roosevelt.

Though his intent *may* have been against terrorism, only either incredible naivete, or abject paranoia and lust for authoritarianism, could have resulted in such a surfeit of laws, almost NONE of which prevent terrorism, but are applied exclusively to the honest citizenry of the United States.

That is, if the entire Patriot Act, and all the related legislation was eliminated right now, America would be just as safe from terrorism, but we would lose vast amounts of unconstitutional “wartime” oppression of all American citizens.

Yet instead, the “intelligence-police-state” has grown by leaps and bounds, with not just disdain, but fear and contempt for all forms of personal freedom and privacy. Obama, for his part, has allowed this insane expansion of police state voyeurism to continue to grow, unchecked.

To hell with it!

America does not need 16 federal intelligence agencies and 50-100 federal police agencies, with agencies like the department of Education kicking down doors using SWAT tactics, along with most any other agency that wants to do that.

I am indifferent to whatever dementia created this nightmare. Instead, I want Republican candidates to say “enough already”, and promise to scrub the vast majority of this worthless and oppressive authoritarian regime.

The terrorists are “over there”, with just a miniscule number “here”, and most of them long known to the police. So take the WoT “over there”. Don’t force us to live barricaded in our homes, not out of fear of terrorists, but out of abject terror from the steroid-crazed, gun happy, dog killing, door smashing, warrantless terror that our police state nation has become.

The government needs to save money. Eliminating 95% of this crapola is a great place to start.


76 posted on 08/29/2011 7:37:21 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: lurk
...Supposedly. I remember all the Bush apologists back then on FR. The mantra was "better than". A lot of other folks were saying, Better than WHO? "UUuhhh, Clinton? If you don't like Bush, why don't you get out of here and go to DU and maybe you'd be happier there!!! Wonder how many FReepers wish they could go back and expunge that history! Not ashamed of mine! Same thing in '08'. McCain better than BHO? Guess we can all agree with that...

...Point is, don't hate those on FR that don't vote D OR R. They don't come back screaming, "TOLD YOU SO"!!!...

...End of Story...

77 posted on 08/29/2011 7:38:43 AM PDT by gargoyle (...This looks like a good fight, deal me in...)
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To: DRey; shield

I’d like to see some of Perry’s stances on Energy & Defense...do you have any links handy?


78 posted on 08/29/2011 7:40:13 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman ("And Resist! We MUCH!": The brilliant Al Sharpton)
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To: DRey

“Even Palin says we can’t deport them all.”

YOU shut off their MONEY,Then they self deport,Is that hard to understand? Now the ones like Perry who turn a blind eye are benefiting from this or they would act.

That is PUNISH their Employers with Jail and loss of license!


79 posted on 08/29/2011 7:41:16 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Carnival commie side show, started November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: DRey
That is what she has said....

I say: Let them self deport is the solution...ALL US government goodies cease....the flood gates entering Mexico would have to be opened to get the millions out of here. Once, the wetbacks have left set up tight control of the border and if they would like to work here give them work permits...NO US GOVERNMENT GOODIES...ever again.

80 posted on 08/29/2011 7:43:32 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Outlaw Woman
Here's a NYT on Perry and energy. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/21/us/21ttenergy.html?_r=2


81 posted on 08/29/2011 7:47:01 AM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: nanetteclaret
Please provide a source for your assertion that he supported TARP and raising the debt ceiling.

I say he supported neither:

“We are fed up with bailout after bailout and stimulus plan after stimulus plan, each one of which tosses principle out the window along with taxpayer money. We can’t even keep up with all the spending, be it the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP), the auto industry bailout, the AIG bailout, or President Obama’s failed $787 billion ‘Recovery Act.’ The list goes on and on.” “Fed Up!” page 5

Rick Perry supported TARP [Video]

Rick Perry Fervently Supported the TARP Bailouts in 2008

"After the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, of which the Troubled Asset Relief Program(TARP) was a part of, failed to pass in the House in its first vote, Rick Perry teamed up with Joe Manchin, who was then the head of the Democratic Governor’s Assocation. Perry and Manchin wrote and sent a letter to Pelosi, Boehner, Reid, and McConnell on October 1st, 2008 urging them to come together and pass the $800 billion bailout, which ended up costing trillions.

The letter, which you can take a look at yourself (View PDF), stated,

'As leaders of our respective organizations, we don’t always see eye to eye on policy, but we come together today with one clear purpose. We strongly urge Congress to leave partisanship at the door and pass an economic recovery package. We both believe that it’s time to stand together for our country.'"


Rick Perry, Nikki Haley push cut, cap and balance pledge

In case you don't know it, "cut, cap and balance" would have raised the debt ceiling by $2.4 TRILLION dollars.

So, it's your choice. You can believe his current campaign rhetoric, or you can believe the facts. But you can't honestly do both.

Rick Perry is a fraud.

82 posted on 08/29/2011 7:47:40 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The first duty of all: Provide equal protection for the right to life of all innocent persons.)
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To: Outlaw Woman
Defense: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2769696/posts
83 posted on 08/29/2011 7:48:19 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Cheetahcat

None of the candidates, not even Palin, are advocating that. The problem is more complex than that.


84 posted on 08/29/2011 7:48:30 AM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: DRey

Excellent article. Thank you


85 posted on 08/29/2011 7:52:12 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman ("And Resist! We MUCH!": The brilliant Al Sharpton)
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To: EternalVigilance

Which candidate is your political party pushing again? Do they have a snowball’s chance in Hades of winning?


86 posted on 08/29/2011 7:52:18 AM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: Servant of the Cross

“Their guy” is Huntsman.


87 posted on 08/29/2011 7:53:59 AM PDT by DManA
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To: EternalVigilance

Did you bother to read the article you just posted on cut/cap/trade from Politico?


88 posted on 08/29/2011 7:54:41 AM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: lurk

lol!


89 posted on 08/29/2011 7:56:02 AM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: Sudetenland

Weak on illegals...NOT...


90 posted on 08/29/2011 7:56:42 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Perry stopped short of endorsing any particular approach to the U.S. financial meltdown and warned against any measures that would allow shady business practices to continue.

“We’re sick and tired of watching Washington bicker with each other while financial markets are roiled,” he said. “The other side of that is we’re certainly not interested in Washington bailing out a bunch of irresponsible mortgage brokers in an industry that has too often been run on greed.”

Perry slams Washington for bailout failure
http://www.chron.com/business/article/Perry-slams-Washington-for-bailout-failure-1555461.php
September 30, 2008

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On September 1, 2008 Governor Perry co-wrote a letter to leaders of Congress urging them to act. The letter provided no specifics on the action to be taken. However, that TARP legislation had recently failed to pass Congress and was the only legislation being considered in Congress. The legislation that created the TARP program passed Congress on the day that the letter was written. A year later, Governor Perry stated that this letter was an attempt to spur action other than the TARP legislation.

When more bailouts were discussed after the TARP program, Governor Perry co-wrote another letter in opposition to all bailouts. He stated that the federal government was not only burying future generations under mountains of debt, but also taking our country in a very dangerous direction.

http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/rep_bios.php?rep_id=56615334&category=views&id=20110719031241


91 posted on 08/29/2011 7:57:09 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: CajunConservative

That darkness is again knocking me in the head!!!


92 posted on 08/29/2011 7:57:58 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: DRey
Perry shared the view, widely held among conservatives, that Bush’s government spending habits in office were a betrayal of the GOP’s core fiscal principles. But Perry went further, dismissing “compassionate conservatism,” the central tenet of Bush’s domestic policy, as just more overreach by the federal government.

The more I read about Perry the more I like him...

93 posted on 08/29/2011 7:58:18 AM PDT by pgkdan (Time for a Cain Mutiny!)
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To: DManA
Huntsman ... Romney ... Brown ... all cloned from the same DNA ...


94 posted on 08/29/2011 8:01:23 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Sudetenland

I don’t mind, I welcome people to look at my posting history.


95 posted on 08/29/2011 8:01:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: DRey

No. I don’t care what Politico says.

But, I do know what CCB contained, a $2.4 TRILLION dollar increase in the debt ceiling, and that Rick Perry supported it.

The poster asked for information, and I gave it.

So, did YOU support TARP and raising the debt ceiling $2.4 TRILLION dollars, like Rick Perry?

Or, are you just willing to give him a pass on those things, just like you are on everything else?


96 posted on 08/29/2011 8:01:47 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The first duty of all: Provide equal protection for the right to life of all innocent persons.)
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To: pgkdan
The more I read about Perry the more I like him...

He has ALL the right enemies.

97 posted on 08/29/2011 8:02:53 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: thackney

Anyone who believes that nonsensical spin out of the Perry camp is dangerously naive.


98 posted on 08/29/2011 8:03:22 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The first duty of all: Provide equal protection for the right to life of all innocent persons.)
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To: pgkdan
The more I read about Perry the more I like him...

Here's another you might like that I just sent to Outlaw Woman. It's last week from the NYT on his stand on energy: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/21/us/21ttenergy.html?_r=2

When you cut through the lies his haters are vomiting and get to the bottom of it, it's almost impossible to dislike the guy.
99 posted on 08/29/2011 8:04:50 AM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: Servant of the Cross
"all cloned from the same DNA..."

Now that's just scary.
100 posted on 08/29/2011 8:05:55 AM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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