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OUR OPINION: Jeffs trial reveals gaps in government response to crimes
The San Angelo Standard Times ^ | August 27, 2011 | N/A

Posted on 08/29/2011 7:20:43 AM PDT by MizSterious

OUR OPINION: Jeffs trial reveals gaps in government response to crimes

Along with appalling evidence of Warren Jeffs' apparent repeated sexual abuse of children, the trial of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints leader revealed new areas that need to be addressed by state and federal lawmakers.

Perhaps most frustrating has been the revelation that case workers have not been on the Yearning for Zion Ranch in Schleicher County in two years. That's despite the removal of more than 400 children from the ranch in 2008 in perhaps the largest child custody case in U.S. history.

Texas Department of Family and Protective Services officials say state District Judge Barbara Walther terminated their involvement when the last case was resolved. Attorneys who represented several of the children disagree, saying the law permits Child Protective Services to visit any time they want.

If the law is unclear, the Legislature needs to remedy the problem. While the FLDS case obviously is extreme, it seems reasonable that the law would permit home visits in situations where there's a question about whether the conditions that led to the initial investigation have improved.

Three and a half years after the raid that garnered international attention, we don't know whether children still are being abused. How can that be?

(Excerpt) Read more at m.gosanangelo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: childabuse; flds; polygamy; warrenjeffs
Indeed. How can that be?

But if you click on the link, you'll see some discussion on whether home schooling laws should be changed--big red flag. We don't need to change those laws. We need to enforce the child abuse laws we already have.

1 posted on 08/29/2011 7:20:47 AM PDT by MizSterious
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To: Pebcak; UCANSEE2; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; greyfoxx39; proudofthesouth; pandoraou812; metmom; ...

Warren Jeffs trial pinglist—if you want on or off, let me know via freepmail!

This is not so much about the trial, but it does ask some of the same questions Freepers have been asking.


2 posted on 08/29/2011 7:22:35 AM PDT by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: MizSterious

1. Create commons sense laws concerning a real problem.
2. Don’t enforce them.
3. Tell Public that we need MORE laws to fix problem.
4. Pass more laws that are badly written and vague.
5. Selectively enforce the badly written and vague laws.
6. Now that everyone is a “criminal” you can selectively remove and imprison your political enemies.
7. Do steps 3 through 6 again if you cannot get rid of all your politcal enemies.


3 posted on 08/29/2011 7:43:46 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: MizSterious
Did you read the comments below the article? An interesting set of posts beginning with this one:

InLightAndTruth 11:45 a.m. 8/28/2011 In 2000 I reported and made complaints to P.O.S.T. Dept of Public Safety in both Arizona & Utah. I had taken credible abuses to the Washington County & Mohave county District Attorneys. News anchor Mike Watkiss and a dozen other TV News anchors were held at bay by armed FLDS militia's as they reported on the same abuses. I have gone to Governors Hull & Leavitt! I had gone to Attorney Generals Janet Napolitano & Jan Grahm, before Mark Shurtleff had even been elected 10 & 1/2 years back. Child Protective services of course! I went to the FBI in 5 states and Washington DC, Senator Hatch & Senator McCain, Congressman Bob Bennett and beyond! I was a representative of "For Kids Sake" child abuse prevention, my states Arizona, Nevada & Utah! By 2004 I had an unheard of 4 pages scathing rejection letter by the FBI out of St. George Utah, refusing to accept any further dialog from me. I had graduated from Santa Rosa Criminal Justice Centers Law Enforcement Academy in 1983, the FBI agent condemming my letters, he graduated from a sister academy of FLETC in Georgia, both Federal Law Enforcement training academies! Long before Texas, the abuses of the FLDS were known and reported, the bigger question overlooked is WHY, no agencies chose to touch this? Now a full blown effort to decriminalize polygamy in Utah should offer some clues! Had Warren not moved to Texas, we would not be discussing this post conviction case today. We don't need more press, but rather congressional hearings, to reveal the truths yet to spill out!

4 posted on 08/29/2011 7:53:24 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Maxine Waters tells Tea Party to "go to hell" - no thanks, I have no desire to move to your district)
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To: MizSterious

“Perhaps most frustrating has been the revelation that case workers have not been on the Yearning for Zion Ranch in Schleicher County in two years. That’s despite the removal of more than 400 children from the ranch in 2008 in perhaps the largest child custody case in U.S. history.”

How can this be? A ‘case worker’ is a child’s best friend. Just ask one of those slack jawed, trough feeding, case workers.


5 posted on 08/29/2011 8:13:35 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles.)
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To: GraceG

Grace, your post#3 is exactly right. That IS the formula for advancing a dictatorship.


6 posted on 08/29/2011 8:31:50 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman

When someone says their ought to be a law here are the typical responses.

Liberal: “For the good of the childrens we need to pass some poorly worded laws immediately!”

Republican (RINO): “We need a law but not as extreme as the liberal one. And maybe we will eventually get to where the liberals want to be, but at least it will take us twice as long.”

Libertarian: “There ought NOT be a law, in fact we need fewer laws.”

Conservative: “Why are the existing laws that cover this not being enforced?”


7 posted on 08/29/2011 9:14:56 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: GladesGuru

[ How can this be? A ‘case worker’ is a child’s best friend. Just ask one of those slack jawed, trough feeding, case workers. ]

We had an experiance with a case worker, we called them on someone who was neglectful to their children, we told them about the living conditions and everything and they were sounding like they were going to do something until we mentioned that they had horses, then it was a complete 180 and it was like “they could do no wrong” and we were wrong for trying to tell them of the neglect. The case worker was a “Horse Nut” and while I like horses, I wouldn;t have let that get in the way of doing my job.

“Case worker” is another name for “Basket Case”. They are nothign more than beureucrats who have been given way too much power and are not held accountable for enforcing the law while freely and opening expressing their personal biases in their supposedly “Impartial Work”...


8 posted on 08/29/2011 9:22:28 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: MizSterious
While there may be an inclination to regard FLDS women as victims more deserving of sympathy than retribution, it's just as true that they typically have been directly involved in the child abuse and that prosecuting them may be necessary to send a strong message.

BTTT!

9 posted on 08/29/2011 9:26:57 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: GraceG

Once again, Grace, good analysis. I agree with you 100%.


10 posted on 08/29/2011 9:46:01 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: GladesGuru; MizSterious
How can this be? A ‘case worker’ is a child’s best friend. Just ask one of those slack jawed, trough feeding, case workers.

Is that you Willie? How's the Ccupe-d-taut coming along out there in the crick? Does the gardener need a nap?

11 posted on 08/29/2011 1:56:08 PM PDT by Pebcak
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