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Big Government Kills the Family Farm
Townhall.com ^ | August 29, 2011 | Jeff Carter

Posted on 08/29/2011 8:34:38 AM PDT by Kaslin

Big government isn’t just bad because it is so costly. Big government is toxic because it becomes an over reaching nanny state that tries to protect us from ourselves. Eventually, government reaches its tentacles into our lives and curbs our freedom.

I am going to see this movie, Farmageddon. I am always interested in the plight of the family farmer. One of the reasons I enjoy going to Europe is to eat their fabulous raw milk cheeses. If you haven’t had one you are missing something. America could have a new vibrant industry of raw milk cheese making if we got better and smaller regulation.

Consider it a jobs program!

We have lost a lot of family farmers over the past twenty years in all kinds of farming because government regulations make it too expensive for them to farm. The organic farming movement is NOT the way to feed the world. However, shouldn’t we as citizens be free to choose what we put into our mouths?

I appreciate Michelle Obama’s advocacy on eating good food, but I am very uncomfortable with the new regulations and laws that regulate what we can eat. The Food Pyramid is just another chance for different constituencies to lobby. It has no bearing on how healthy you are. In the past number of years, I have avoided eating what the food pyramid recommends. In the past year, I have cut back on my carbohydrates, cut back on my sweets and alcohol consumption, worked out once a week at CityWideSuperSlow and dropped 30 pounds. Being healthy isn’t rocket science.

It seems whenever the government gets a hold of idea that’s good, it takes it to a level that infringes on your freedom to actually act upon that idea. I love Michelle Obama’s vegetable garden at the White House. But, I don’t like the USDA and their all out attack on farmers. Government regulation is always a slippery slope.

One thing that is consistent about government regulation no matter what the industry. It kills smaller players and favors the big guys. The more government tries to remedy family farms, the less of them we have. The more government fiddles with the banking industry, the less local banks we have. These smaller players develop local markets that fill niches the big guys ignore. Government regulation will kill off niche markets, and destroy the jobs that come with them. Intense government regulation eliminates your freedom. This is all in the name of protecting us from ourselves.

My assumption is that most of the “organic locovores” that shop at farmer’s markets are big time supporters of the Democratic Party. If they really wanted family farms to survive and create new niche markets that create new niche jobs, they might want to vote for candidates that support small government. Right now, that means crossing over and becoming a Tea Partier.

Big government is killing the family farmer. It’s killing off whole potential industries.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: communism; economy; farmageddon; farming; fedgov; fedzilla; govtabuse; liberalfascism; obama; regulation; tyranny
Click on the Farmageddon link in the article to watch the movie trailer
1 posted on 08/29/2011 8:34:41 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Government regulation is always a slippery slope.
Government regulation is FORMERLY a slippery slope.

Under Obama it's a BULLET TRAIN TO SOCIALISM.

2 posted on 08/29/2011 8:37:04 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Kaslin

bttt


3 posted on 08/29/2011 8:40:20 AM PDT by Pelham ("Resist we much!" - Al 'Jiffypop' Sharpton)
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To: Kaslin

Big govt is killing the family business, too...

November 2012 cant come soon enough...hopefully, it will bring about a change in attitude and a change in direction.

If not, bye bye America as we once knew it.


4 posted on 08/29/2011 9:12:00 AM PDT by Former MSM Viewer
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To: Former MSM Viewer
I had a phone conversation 20 years ago with Congressmen Grassley. In talking about the family farm he said, “We've been trying to save the family farm for 50 years, have we gotten any closer?”

Government subsidized crop insurance has been the new fashion for the last several years, all it does is take the risk out of farming and that is driving the $600 per acre rent in my opinion. Much like taking the risk out of house mortgages......................

5 posted on 08/29/2011 9:18:09 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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To: Kaslin

The organic farming movement is NOT the way to feed the world. However, shouldn’t we as citizens be free to choose what we put into our mouths?


The organic farming movement is one set of rules, controlled in Washington DC.

I at one time promoted using the ISO 9000 standards in agriculture which allowed multiple standards, you just had to prove what you said you were going to do. The customer then decided if that was good enough.


6 posted on 08/29/2011 9:21:21 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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To: Kaslin
Why should the "family farm" be more important than the "family gas station" or the "family insurance agency"?Let them compete without subsidies, or excessive regulation.

The incredible efficiencies of large farming has had alot to do with the disappearing family farm. Most small farmers I know do it because they love farming even though it is marginal from a business standpoint. That's their choice.

7 posted on 08/29/2011 9:28:49 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Kaslin

More leftist cognitive dissonance.

They’re all-in for the “family farm,” freedom from ridiculous Gov’t intervention, organic food, etc..., yet it seems many are happy to have Obama and his ilk takeover Gov’t health-care, increasing the budgets of EPA and FDA by 30% per year, etc...

They don’t seem to realize these all have the same root.


8 posted on 08/29/2011 9:32:30 AM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: PGR88

Government is killing America.

Every move they make, every step they take.


9 posted on 08/29/2011 9:58:06 AM PDT by listenhillary (Look your representatives in the eye and ask if they intend to pay off the debt. They will look away)
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To: Kaslin

so where is John Cougar Mellencamp with the whiny album and the benefit concerts?


10 posted on 08/29/2011 10:07:20 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Kaslin
Big government is killing the family farmer.

Precisely as laid out in the U.N.'s Agenda 21


11 posted on 08/29/2011 10:36:39 AM PDT by Roninf5-1
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To: samtheman

In a communist society, there must be no alternative to working for the communist party, and that includes supporting yourself on your own land.

The more I study the aspects and goals of communists,
the less it is possible to deny what I see the left/democRats doing in our country.


12 posted on 08/29/2011 11:14:33 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin
I like farmers, but the truth is we've been losing farming jobs for a lot longer than 20 years. And big government has very little to do with it.

Automation, large scale farming, and improved farming techniques have had a lot more to do with it, than big government.

A family farmer is not going to be able to farm the same small plot of his ancestors did, producing little more than they did and still be able to buy that satellite dish and a modern car, and a college education for their kids, etc. If they aren't going to produce much more than their ancestors, then their standard of living is not going to be much better either.

13 posted on 08/29/2011 11:15:05 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Buckeye McFrog

When it was the bankers (ie, not the government) taking the farms, that’s a problem,

but when it’s the government doing it, well, of course, they always have “the greater good” as their motivation.


14 posted on 08/29/2011 11:15:40 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: DannyTN

Actually, it has a lot to do with government.

Go back and review the history of SecAg Earl Butz under Nixon, who set in motion policies that led to the farming crash of the mid-80’s.

Government has been meddling in farming in a big way since the days of Herbert Hoover.


15 posted on 08/29/2011 11:40:37 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: Buckeye McFrog

the same John Cougar Mellencamp who once said free speech is a “collective” and not individual right?


16 posted on 08/29/2011 12:03:04 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: MrB

Include this in your studies, if you haven’t done so already:

http://www.ibiblio.org/expo/soviet.exhibit/famine.html


17 posted on 08/29/2011 12:09:47 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman

To a certain degree, that’s what I see the Iowa and Missouri flooding as - a government caused destruction of productive farmland.


18 posted on 08/29/2011 1:13:45 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Please include the irrigation shut down in Central California which plunged the Central valley into a depression with 70% unemployment in some areas, and the destruction of a considerable number of fruit and nut orchards there.


19 posted on 08/29/2011 1:20:59 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

Definitely, and over a SMELT. A friggin’ BAIT FISH.
And the numbers of these smelt did NOT increase appreciably due to these actions, either.


20 posted on 08/29/2011 1:25:22 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: hedgetrimmer; MrB

Perhaps the farmers in that area should have been growing crops suited to the climate and not requiring massive irrigation.


21 posted on 08/29/2011 2:25:46 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny?)
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To: Sarajevo

Perhaps we should all return to being hunter-gatherers.


22 posted on 08/29/2011 2:30:45 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: PeterPrinciple

“We’ve been trying to save the family farm for 50 years, have we gotten any closer?”

Somehow, family farms have survived, despite being helped to death.


23 posted on 08/29/2011 2:50:45 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Having grown up in a farming region...I’ll point out three things which most folks don’t grasp. First, farm families have kids who make a decision not to farm (either the risks, the lack of adventure, or just the plain vanilla nature of it)...but the kids make this decision and the family farm comes to an eventual end.

Second, after you’ve messed around with banks continually for thirty years and seen just about every trick in the book...most guys who are farmers...won’t say alot positive about the continual problems in keeping a farm above water with bank credit.

Third and final...when some guy comes up and offers you a fair amount of cash for your acreage on the main highway...to build houses...most guys are going to listen to the offer. They might still turn it down, but the idea of selling ten percent of their farm to make enough to pay off all bank loans...appeals to folks.


24 posted on 08/29/2011 3:22:48 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Kaslin

bump


25 posted on 08/29/2011 4:01:52 PM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: pepsionice

I recall working in the dairy business in Florida for a while. There was a beautiful, big farm that produced high quality milk and had about 3,000 head of milking cows, aside from the calves, bulls, and dry cows. They were offered money by a developer who wanted to subdivide it into horse ranches. The community wanted them to stay. They were a major employer and part of the local economy. This was way up rural Northern Florida, and they did not care for the yankification going on further South, and wanted no part of it. But they sold off the cattle, and eventually the land, and that was that.


26 posted on 08/29/2011 4:14:52 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Roninf5-1

Jesus, that family produces some retarded losers.


27 posted on 08/29/2011 4:31:37 PM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: Sarajevo

Perhaps you are an anti-human agenda 21er.


28 posted on 08/29/2011 6:33:21 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Kaslin

A comment on something in the article.

There is raw milk cheese (cheddar, cottage) and other raw dairy products avaiable in southern Calif., anyway.
Alta Dena is one brand, Horizon is another.
There may be others.

Our kids, now in their 40’s, were raised on raw milk and other products - the milk was even delivered to the doorstep by a local dairy!

Milk consumptiom was stopped when the youngest became 12 or so. Yeah, we came to believe cow’s milk is meant for their babies, and not us. Find calcium elsewhere . . .
(One daughter has not one cavity)!

These raw products are delicious, tho. They are not foods that have been processed to heck!
(Hope the govt. peeps aren’t listening in and getting further regulation ideas).

Also, the ‘raw milk’ dairies are held to a higher standard and inspection.

And gez wot?
None of us are De-mocrats.

: )


29 posted on 08/29/2011 9:08:33 PM PDT by USARightSide (Next month will be 10 years since 9-11. What have you learned?)
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To: samtheman

Placemark.

Bullet train is good. Screaming nosedive is another way to describe it.


30 posted on 08/29/2011 10:23:15 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: artichokegrower; Sarajevo; hedgetrimmer

Humans were intended to improve the whole earth and make it produce.

Only those who see humans as just another in a long chain of evolutionary accidents think that we should leave the earth as it is and not “exploit” it for our own benefit.

Your view on the nature and creation of mankind IS relevant. It’s not a “side issue”, because it determines what conclusions you come to on policy affecting all of us.


31 posted on 08/30/2011 5:09:20 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: DannyTN

To be viable, you must have at least 350 acres, stay away from large capital expenditures, have strong sons with an
interest in farming, use horse power.


32 posted on 08/30/2011 9:24:23 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: hedgetrimmer; artichokegrower
Perhaps we should all return to being hunter-gatherers.

Perhaps you are an anti-human agenda 21er.

OUTSTANDING RIPOSTES! Maybe I should grow papaya and mango in the Texas Hill Country. Yeah! Grow tropicals where there isn't enough water to support them! That would fix the ills of the world, or at least, I'd show'm!

33 posted on 08/30/2011 2:09:31 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny?)
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To: Sarajevo
Maybe I should grow papaya and mango in the Texas Hill Country.

A chimpanzee couldn't do it but a human could.
34 posted on 08/30/2011 2:16:51 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

Another outstanding riposte...........................give it up.


35 posted on 08/30/2011 2:51:41 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny?)
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To: Sarajevo

It sickening to see the constant propaganda against farming in the central valley of California. The state is the most fertile in the whole nation!

What should humans do, truck the topsoil to the rainforests where they get 70 inches of rain a year? As a gardener you of course know that you need soil water and weather for food crop production. Plenty of water falls on the central valley, but lots of rivers take it away. What on earth is wrong with storing it for later? Or do you prefer they just canal it down to Los Angeles to water the illegals?

I wonder if you have a well, a water tank or a municipal water system to water your garden. I wonder if you only grow native plants in your garden. What native texas food to you grow? Oh, and those chickens of yours don’t belong the the texas hill country either. Some farmer bred them, they ain’t native.


36 posted on 08/30/2011 2:58:42 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer
If you have plenty of water, why do you need irrigation?

I plainly stated that growing crops more suitable for the area would alleviate the issue of water shortages.

37 posted on 08/30/2011 3:31:57 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny?)
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To: Sarajevo

You can’t be serious!


38 posted on 08/30/2011 5:22:54 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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