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Mysteries of ozone depletion continue 25 years after the discovery of the Antarctic ozone hole
http://www.physorg.com ^ | August 30, 2011 | Provided by American Chemical Society

Posted on 08/30/2011 6:46:17 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

I don’t care if there is a hole or if there isn’t a hole.

There isn’t one damn thing the US government is gonna do about it aside from tax and spend, so who cares?

If it’s there, great!

If it’s not there, great!


21 posted on 08/30/2011 7:28:06 AM PDT by chris37 (representative)
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To: crusty old prospector

All the mammals on earth exhale CO2 when they breathe. What’s to be done about that, apply for another grant, create more horsesh-t? Some how I think it’l be the horsesh-t by a landslide.


22 posted on 08/30/2011 7:28:59 AM PDT by Waco (Nominate Palin or forget 2012 you lost)
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To: Red Badger

Where does ozone come from?

It is made when radiation strikes water and releases the ozone molecule into the atmosphere.

So....in the short periods when there is a “hole”, more radiation comes through the atmosphere AND CREATES MORE OZONE!!!!

It’s a self healing process and cycle.
Man is incapable of spoiling it.
Just another enviro-hoax.


23 posted on 08/30/2011 7:34:37 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Not the CFC'c that are charged, the O3, with a negative ionic charge, that is more likely affected by the magnetic charge at the south pole.

That the cfc's have any affect is pure speculation, because somewhere, someone bubbled some through a cloud of ozone in a test tube, and the ozone (gasp) chemically reacted, unstable as it is.

Ozone will react with aluminum siding. Perhaps aluminum should be banned, well, maybe just in california? LOL

I doubt there are many things that ozone will not react with.

24 posted on 08/30/2011 7:39:35 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Red Badger
"On the thousand-year timescale, carbon dioxide is by far the most important greenhouse gas produced by humans, but there are some other interesting — though much less abundant — gases such as perfluorinated compounds that also last thousands of years and similarly affect our climate for millennia," said Solomon.
 
Maybe carbon dioxide is "the most important...", but what does that have to do with whether carbon dioxide has any significant effect on global climate?  I wonder how Solomon would explain the facts shown in the paper found at geocraft.com?
 
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html

25 posted on 08/30/2011 8:01:08 AM PDT by Let_It_Be_So (Once you see the Truth, you cannot "unsee" it, no matter how hard you may try.)
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To: joe fonebone

“my theory is that the ozone hole is actually like a chimney, opening up to allow toxins??? to be released from the atmosphere”

The “ozone hole” is not an actual hole in the atmosphere that would allow gases escape. There is no “bubble” holding gas in the atmosphere, it is all held in by the planet’s gravity. The “ozone hole” would supposedly have let more UV radiation in to the atmosphere, by creating an area where it would not be reflected back into space as much as in the rest of the atmosphere.


26 posted on 08/30/2011 8:04:24 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: GingisK

grant money grant money grant money


27 posted on 08/30/2011 8:08:45 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Red Badger
In a Kavli Foundation Innovations in Chemistry Lecture, Susan Solomon, Ph.D., of the University of Colorado, Boulder, said that the combined efforts of scientists, the public, industry and policy makers to stop ozone depletion is one of science's greatest success stories, but unanswered questions remain. And ozone is still disappearing.

Unfortunately for us, Susan Soloman is a bit of a biased "scientist" who does not listen to anyone with a contrary question. There may be a correlation between global cooling and the size of the ozone hole. Okay, not necessarily global cooling, but unusually cold winter temperatures in the upper atmosphere.

Furthermore, the predicted sizes of the ozone hole may not correlate with the reduction of CFCs in the upper atmosphere. Upper atmospheric chemistry is complex with many assumptions and limited data, with its attendant limited methodology and results.

28 posted on 08/30/2011 8:13:09 AM PDT by olezip
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To: GingisK

Al Bore thinks you are a racist.


29 posted on 08/30/2011 8:29:18 AM PDT by Dryman (Define Natural Born Citizen)
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To: GingisK
Plus ozone has a small negative charge which causes it to be repelled by the south pole and attracted by the north pole. Golly gee a hole over the south pole, who woulda thunk it.
30 posted on 08/30/2011 8:42:31 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Islam is an instrument of enslavement)
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To: Red Badger

CFCs are to heavy to reach the stratosphere, ask some one with an “Earth science degree” about CFCs or FREON 12 rising instead of falling and they will burst into laughter.

Here is a hint. Both are much heaver than O2 or nitrogen or CO2, and as a result they fall to the ground.


31 posted on 08/30/2011 8:51:30 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Islam is an instrument of enslavement)
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To: Cheetahcat
Bunch of Idiots,we had to change to a more expensive but less efficient gas,because of some slobbering enviro Pinheads who got it wrong,Plus a worthless Government that is filled with the same.

And IMO DuPont transferred large sums of cash to EPA scientists and select congressmen.

32 posted on 08/30/2011 9:02:15 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Islam is an instrument of enslavement)
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To: Boogieman
The “ozone hole” would supposedly have let more UV radiation in to the atmosphere, by creating an area where it would not be reflected back into space as much as in the rest of the atmosphere.

In hindsight the whole thing sounds preposterous. It's a pretty imaginative scam but it didn't involve massive sums of money and regulation like AGW does. The scientists weren't yet quite the power-tripping socialists they are today.

33 posted on 08/30/2011 9:06:52 AM PDT by Reeses (It's a safety net, not a hammock!)
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To: Boogieman
"it is all held in by the planet’s gravity. "
there is no such thing as gravity. Want proof??? take a basketball, spin it as fast as you can, and put a dime on it...what happens to the dime? we are held down to the planet by particle bombardment, the subatomic particles being attracted from space by our magnetic field.....on days with heavier than normal bombardment, you wake up and weigh more!!!!! :)
34 posted on 08/30/2011 9:21:15 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: W. W. SMITH

“Bunch of Idiots,we had to change to a more expensive but less efficient gas,because of some slobbering enviro Pinheads who got it wrong,Plus a worthless Government that is filled with the same.

And IMO DuPont transferred large sums of cash to EPA scientists and select congressmen.”

Like DDT we got rid of a cheap very effective insecticide,in exchange for expensive ones that hurt us as well.


35 posted on 08/30/2011 9:22:23 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Carnival commie side show, started November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: joe fonebone

“we are held down to the planet by particle bombardment, the subatomic particles being attracted from space by our magnetic field”

So, if you stand under a lead plate you suddenly become weightless? Please...


36 posted on 08/30/2011 9:59:37 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

since this has not been researched ( due to people believing in fairy tales out of the 16th century ) it is not fully explainable....but we have to assume these subatomic particles can and do penetrate everything......after all, they get through the ozone layer....


37 posted on 08/30/2011 10:28:39 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: GingisK
NASA proved conclusively that the ozone hole is coupled to sunspot activity.

It is a self-regulating system that produces more ozone in response to higher energy from the Sun over the poles. It is for PROTECTION. Too MUCH energy from the SUN would kill everything, not ENOUGH would kill everything. Especially in an area where the SUN is visible for months in a row.

38 posted on 08/30/2011 11:19:23 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: joe fonebone

If the “subatomic particles” penetrate everything without colliding, how could they impart any momentum?


39 posted on 08/30/2011 12:21:03 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

that would be one of the mysteries of the universe....not everything is understood or explainable by man.... :)


40 posted on 08/30/2011 12:26:06 PM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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