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Reaction to 15-year-old pedophile: ‘We’re breeding inhuman men’
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | 8-30-2011 | by Peter Baklinski

Posted on 08/30/2011 3:00:44 PM PDT by topher

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To: wagglebee; tacticalogic; dcwusmc

I guess opposing the murder of babies makes me pro-abortion, opposing the WOD makes me pro-drug, and supporting the right of local communities to regulate pornography makes me pro-porn. Hint: if you have to lie about your opponent’s positions, you’ve already the lost argument.


141 posted on 08/31/2011 7:39:35 AM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy ("[Drug] crusaders cannot accept the fact that they are not God." -Thomas Sowell)
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To: Responsibility2nd

If you are going to insult those who support a rape exception by calling them anything other than pro-life, you’ll never get abortion banned.

I’m not pro porn. I said it has negative effects on society. I also said it’s the responsibility of local communities to control it and not the responsibility of the federal government. If you equate that to hiding behind the Tenth Amendment, then fine. You fall right into the laps of those who support ObamaCare, because you both support twisting the Commerce Clause to get what you want.

I support the right of states to regulate drugs but you have never stated you agree with that. If you don’t support that right, then you aren’t a conservative.


142 posted on 08/31/2011 7:45:06 AM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy ("[Drug] crusaders cannot accept the fact that they are not God." -Thomas Sowell)
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy
I guess opposing the murder of babies makes me pro-abortion, opposing the WOD makes me pro-drug, and supporting the right of local communities to regulate pornography makes me pro-porn. Hint: if you have to lie about your opponent’s positions, you’ve already the lost argument.

Polarization is a standard propaganda tactic, wherein if you disagree with any part of someone's argument, in any degree, you will be accused of supporting the exact opposite of their position, on every point, so that it becomes an all or nothing proposition.

Like loaded questions, the best thing to do is just tag it and bag it. There's not really any point in engaging it, and there's a high probability it's just bait to get you to say something intemperate that will get you banned.

143 posted on 08/31/2011 7:52:49 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy
I guess opposing the murder of babies makes me pro-abortion, opposing the WOD makes me pro-drug, and supporting the right of local communities to regulate pornography makes me pro-porn. Hint: if you have to lie about your opponent’s positions, you’ve already the lost argument.

Polarization is a standard propaganda tactic, wherein if you disagree with any part of someone's argument, in any degree, you will be accused of supporting the exact opposite of their position, on every point, so that it becomes an all or nothing proposition.

Like loaded questions, the best thing to do is just tag it and bag it. There's not really any point in engaging it, and there's a high probability it's just bait to get you to say something intemperate that will get you banned.

144 posted on 08/31/2011 7:55:02 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

You’re right. It’s not worth engaging them. I could use the same tactics, by accusing WOD fans of supporting the murder of innocent people and the drug cartels, but I’m not a fan of those who distort other people’s arguments in order to make their arguments seem appealing.


146 posted on 08/31/2011 7:57:50 AM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy ("[Drug] crusaders cannot accept the fact that they are not God." -Thomas Sowell)
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy
You’re right. It’s not worth engaging them. I could use the same tactics, by accusing WOD fans of supporting the murder of innocent people and the drug cartels, but I’m not a fan of those who distort other people’s arguments in order to make their arguments seem appealing.

It's not going to make your argument appealing to anyone you'd want to trust, if that's what it takes to change their mind.

147 posted on 08/31/2011 8:03:04 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy; Responsibility2nd; metmom; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; trisham; BykrBayb
Hint: if you have to lie about your opponent’s positions, you’ve already the lost argument.

Hey newbie (if in fact you are), you've been here TEN DAYS, before you go calling me a liar you might want to make sure that I've actually said any of the stuff you are accusing me of.

My ONLY COMMENT was to Responsibility2nd about there being a lot of retread trolls in here.

So tell me this, is this your first screen name, if not what other names have you used?

148 posted on 08/31/2011 8:05:55 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: tacticalogic
I asked what you proposed to do about it. That does not appear to be an answer. Do you have any constructive ideas?

It requires adults (leaders, us) saying NO. But we get tired of saying no to liberals. We won't even say homosexuality is wrong in church. An we won't pay the price for this like our founders did.
149 posted on 08/31/2011 8:09:39 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy; Responsibility2nd; metmom; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; trisham; BykrBayb; ...
If you are going to insult those who support a rape exception by calling them anything other than pro-life, you’ll never get abortion banned.

For what other crimes do you think the child of the criminal should be executed?

If YOUR FATHER commits rape should YOU be executed?

150 posted on 08/31/2011 8:10:02 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

I realize you were quoting him, and I was responding to him. I clicked your post and pinged you by accident. My beef is with Responsibility2nd.


151 posted on 08/31/2011 8:11:38 AM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy ("[Drug] crusaders cannot accept the fact that they are not God." -Thomas Sowell)
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy; Responsibility2nd; metmom; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; trisham; BykrBayb; ...
So, what EXACTLY is your position on abortion?

We already know that you are fine with killing the innocent children of rapists.

Do you think abortion is a "states' rights" thing?

152 posted on 08/31/2011 8:15:40 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; 10thAmendmentGuy; All
My comment 145 was removed.

Reposting with personal attacks edited out.

I support the right of WANT the states to regulate drugs
 
Fixed it.
 
Look. You can hide behind the 10th Amendment. You can twist the intent of the 10th Amendment to suit your agenda. But this.... This is all any conservative needs to know about you.
 

If you are going to insult those who support a rape exception by calling them anything other than pro-life, you’ll never get abortion banned.

 

Yes, I will insult (anyone who supports a rape exception.) I will liken (them) to a (edit) who beheads his daughter because she was raped. Because if you see justification in taking the life of an innocent baby because he is the by-product of rape, then you also see no harm in beheading the mother who was the victim of said rape.
 
 IBTZ


153 posted on 08/31/2011 8:15:43 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (The views and opinions expressed in this post are true and correct. Deal with it.)
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To: wagglebee

This is my first account, and that analogy doesn’t make sense. What right do you have to force a rape victim to carry her baby to term? So she has to go out in public and basically re-live the atrocity every day for 9 months. No I don’t support that, and polls show that less than 15% of Americans support naming her do that. Americans, by a slight majority, consider themselves pro-life. George W. Bush supports a rape exception. Do you think that makes him pro-abortion? Careful.


154 posted on 08/31/2011 8:16:11 AM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy ("[Drug] crusaders cannot accept the fact that they are not God." -Thomas Sowell)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yes, I reported your incredibly insulting and nonsensical post.


155 posted on 08/31/2011 8:17:14 AM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy ("[Drug] crusaders cannot accept the fact that they are not God." -Thomas Sowell)
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To: wagglebee; 10thAmendmentGuy
So tell me this, is this your first screen name, if not what other names have you used?

"Pissant is an epithet for an inconsequential, irrelevant, or worthless person, especially one who is irritating or contemptible out of proportion to his or her significance." -Wikipedia

156 posted on 08/31/2011 8:17:48 AM PDT by WVKayaker (The GOP needs to live the planks of its platform, not just offer lip service. -Sarah Palin 8/2008)
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To: 10thAmendmentGuy

Fair enough. It suits you to cry to the mods when you are losing an argument.

But answer this, please. Do you think the woman should be stoned because she was raped?


157 posted on 08/31/2011 8:19:32 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (The views and opinions expressed in this post are true and correct. Deal with it.)
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To: wagglebee

Please add “ and George W. Bush” to any post you make to me involving a rape exception, because the former president shares my position. With regard to my position on abortion, I support overturning Roe v. Wade and passing a constitutional amendment to force all 50 states to ban abortion.


158 posted on 08/31/2011 8:19:43 AM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy ("[Drug] crusaders cannot accept the fact that they are not God." -Thomas Sowell)
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To: Responsibility2nd

No I don’t support the stoning of rape victims. I support the stoning of rapists. I don’t think that allowing a rape victim to abort is equivalent to a rape victim being stoned. Sorry if you disagree.


159 posted on 08/31/2011 8:21:32 AM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy ("[Drug] crusaders cannot accept the fact that they are not God." -Thomas Sowell)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I want to hear you insult former President Bush then. He and U have the exact same position on abortion, and the position is very reasonable indeed.


160 posted on 08/31/2011 8:23:05 AM PDT by 10thAmendmentGuy ("[Drug] crusaders cannot accept the fact that they are not God." -Thomas Sowell)
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