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CA state, local governments employ more than two million (Does not include Fed employees)
http://www.johnandkenshow.com/ ^ | 8/30/2011 | http://www.johnandkenshow.com/

Posted on 08/30/2011 6:16:23 PM PDT by dragnet2

Reported by KFI, John and Ken radio show, with confirmation links below.

Other confirmation links:

CA Employs 2,160,000 government employees


TOPICS: Front Page News; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; government; moochers; sourcetitlenoturl
In California, 2,160,000 now work for state or local government.

This does not include the tens of thousands employed by the Feds in California!

Let that sink in...

They are paid 9.7 BILLION PER MONTH... Just for the state and local government employees, not including the the fed employees working in CA.

This does NOT include the costs of their pensions!

61,000 are employed in the prison system alone!

64,000 are employed at the welfare department!

722,847 Are government education employees!

Nearly 100,000 are employed by public law enforcement!

Average Monthly salary of these government employees is: $5,500 per month.

Other Confirmation links.

CA Employs 2,160,000 government employees

1 posted on 08/30/2011 6:16:30 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

** Despite budget cuts and layoff warnings, California still hiring and workforce still growing **

http://www.sacbee.com/politics/story/2094403.html

The Sacramento Bee
Aug. 9, 2009

** State job number on upswing despite recession **

California’s state government has managed to add thousands of jobs during this past year, defying a mammoth budget deficit and a brutal recession.

The job growth for state workers contrasts with the loss of 759,000 jobs in California’s private industry in the past 12 months

http://www.mercurynews.com/topstories/ci_12984385?nclick_check=1&forced=true

not to mention gubermint employees and their pensions...

Reform advocates are spotlighting those with extravagant pensions
— $100,000 or more — as a way to get the public’s attention and
emphasize that the current system is unsustainable.

http://www.modbee.com/editorials/story/803636.html

Perhaps the real reason why public-sector pension costs have not been tackled is that the full bill has never been revealed to taxpayers.

** The great public-sector pension rip-off **

http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13988606

From The Economist print edition
July 9, 2009

JOIN a private-sector company these days and you will be very lucky if you get a pension linked to your final salary. In Britain almost three out of four companies that retain such schemes have closed them to new employees. The cost of paying such benefits, which are partly linked to inflation and offer payouts to surviving spouses, is simply too high now that many retirees are surviving into their 80s.

Yet most new public-sector employees in Britain and America continue to benefit from pensions linked to their salaries. The pension costs facing the public sector are roughly the same as those facing the private sector; their employees are likely to live just as long. But because of the presumed largesse of future taxpayers, governments seem under much less pressure to reduce their pension costs. In 2005 a reform package in Britain raised the retirement age for new state employees, but still left existing employees able to retire at 60.


2 posted on 08/30/2011 6:19:24 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (My mind is like a steel trap: rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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To: dragnet2
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3 posted on 08/30/2011 6:22:24 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

BTTT


4 posted on 08/30/2011 6:27:53 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Closing on my Irving, TX home TOMORROW!

Adios, CA (land of my birth and my home for the last 50+ years) — your insanity can be subsidized by the few productive folks and the idiots in the Silicon Valley dumb enough to stay there.

I actually had to make a formal statement for the loan of “reasons for relocation” (they ask for all kinds of strange stuff) I replied with this formal response:

“* Political, financial and cultural conditions in California have deteriorated to the point of being intolerable. To wit, ‘there are more people in the cart than pulling it.’

“* FD2003 is a business traveler. His work takes him across the country, although rarely to the business-unfriendly West Coast. Dallas is centrally located which will reduce his travel time significantly.”

I didn’t say, since they would not have gotten it, is that TEXAS FREEPERS ARE THE BEST!!!! (/TX shoutout) ;) :)


5 posted on 08/30/2011 6:34:40 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: dragnet2
Feels like swimming in jello while wearing a straitjacket.
6 posted on 08/30/2011 6:35:30 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: freedumb2003

You’ll love the weather...lol


7 posted on 08/30/2011 6:36:06 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

bump.


8 posted on 08/30/2011 6:40:37 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: ken21

I predict this thread will be as popular as a public pay phone in the senseless murder district...

Never make 50 posts...

The reason should be clear....


9 posted on 08/30/2011 6:42:39 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

>>You’ll love the weather...lol<<

40+ days at 100+?

Hey, God created central A/C for a reason!

I am hoping to drag wither my East or West along with me.

Remember, if it rains starting mid October, I want the credit!


10 posted on 08/30/2011 6:42:56 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: freedumb2003

Enjoy!


11 posted on 08/30/2011 6:43:55 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: freedumb2003

Welcome! You weren’t born here, but you got here as fast as you could....

:)


12 posted on 08/30/2011 6:47:19 PM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: dragnet2

This is why the state is broke.


13 posted on 08/30/2011 6:48:30 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: freedumb2003

welcome to Irving!


14 posted on 08/30/2011 6:49:37 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: dragnet2

Every government job costs at least two private sector jobs. It costs to support government and they only regulate, they never produce. The two job markets are inversely linked. The more government jobs, the more private jobs are suppressed. To speak of Government jobs like they are a boon to the economy is disingenuous at best.


15 posted on 08/30/2011 6:57:04 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: dragnet2

Unreal


16 posted on 08/30/2011 6:58:00 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Carry_Okie

I’ve always respected your opinion.

Looking at the numbers, you do not have enough patriots, conservatives and sane people to stop the fascist insanity in CA.

What’s your solution?

I have a solution. I want to see if your idea parallels mine.

Just casting a question.


17 posted on 08/30/2011 7:11:31 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: WOBBLY BOB
But because of the presumed largesse of future taxpayers, governments seem under much less pressure to reduce their pension costs.

This is what is going to start the civil war.

18 posted on 08/30/2011 7:44:46 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: dragnet2

bump


19 posted on 08/30/2011 8:07:10 PM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: dragnet2

No surprise.


20 posted on 08/30/2011 8:13:52 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: freedumb2003

Gimme a shout when you get settled in so we can argue in person .. LOL

Welcome to Texas, brother Freeper! Glad to have you.


21 posted on 08/30/2011 8:58:37 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: sergeantdave
I’ve always respected your opinion.

It is an honor to have earned that respect.

What’s your solution?

There's a long answer to that, because to be credible would take a number of examples of the general principles as applied to the various aspects of the problem: educational, social, legal, psychological, economic, environmental, and civil defense. Yet all that does boil down to a very few simple ideas. Each case will require a different pitch, yet each pitch must be entirely a subset of those central principles.

I do think I've comprehended it, and I think there's enough fear out there, even within the functional bits and pieces among the mass of bureaucracy, to get their attention. I doubt either the bulk of the academe or the political class is savable. Whether the plan can be executed in time is of course problematic to say the least, but at least I have most of the pieces for one, albeit the sequence of steps is not well developed. I simply got started opportunistically upon what was both closest to hand and the deepest underlying justification infesting the leftist id.

Nevertheless, it must be done because "letting the State sink" would be catastrophic, perhaps for the entire world. Even if not, California's problems are emblematic of the nation by degree; hence one need only wait for things to degenerate further for the above to be true. This disastrous mentality infests even the most conservative states because the hierarchy is defined by credentials, and we all know who controls those.

Thinking it not wise to advertise the way the various examples stitch together just yet, I think this a matter best communicated in conversation, particularly because some extensive historical context may be necessary. If you want, freepmail me with a phone number and email addy and we'll set up a phone meeting go over the various elemental, strategic, and tactical elements. I could use a good conversation to help me organize it all.

In any case and in my opinion, we must do something along these lines or we will surely lose eventually. Of that I have little doubt.

22 posted on 08/30/2011 9:48:32 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: Windflier

>>Gimme a shout when you get settled in so we can argue in person .. LOL<<

Heck yeah!

I spent about 2.5 years in Texas and I learned one thing about Texans: They will argue to the grave even when they know they are wrong!

I am bringing my bad self, my beautiful (and frugal) wife, my Conservative values, my 6 figure income and my positive attitude to Texas. A match made in heaven and I just keep asking myself “why did I wait so long?”

Longneckers and intense but friendly arguments at a bar together sounds like a great plan!


23 posted on 08/30/2011 10:28:04 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: nanetteclaret

>>Welcome! You weren’t born here, but you got here as fast as you could....<<

Revelation comes to each on his/her own timeline.

Thanks! The only issue that worries me is when they use that staple gun to staple the legally required “Dallas Cowboys #1” giant foam finger to my forehead...


24 posted on 08/30/2011 10:31:15 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: GeronL

>>welcome to Irving!<<

Based on everything I have read over the last umpteen years, TX Freepers are the first group I would trust with to meet in RL and trust with my RL data.

No offense to other FReepers — we are a large community and dang near every FReeper can be trusted. But dang near doesn’t=100%. There a handfule of FReepers I have shared my RL info with. And I am the most paranoid Internet denizen on the planet.

But there has always been a sort of “trolls don’t last long here” vibe for TX that has always impressed me (and no, this isn’t just sucking up to my fellow Texans — you cynics!)

Lady TX FReepers: Bad/good news: I am as attractive as my posts and I am happily married.


25 posted on 08/30/2011 10:37:44 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: freedumb2003

Congratulations & God bless. I can relate to your situation and also feel sad California has lost another awesome person.


26 posted on 08/31/2011 6:33:34 AM PDT by MonicaG (God bless our military! Praying and thanking God for you every day. Thank you!)
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To: GeronL

14 Cities That Are Being Eaten Alive By Public Sector Workers

After years of declining tax revenues, cities and towns across the country are now running out of ways to deal with their ballooning budget deficits. ... Public employee costs account for a large share of municipal budget woes.

(Excerpt)

http://www.businessinsider.com/cities-that-are-being-eaten-alive-by-their-employees-2011-7?op=1

Their List:

New York City

Los Angeles

Chicago

San Francisco

Pittsburgh

North Las Vegas

San Jose, Calif.

Providence, R.I.

New Haven

Newark

Stockton, Calif.

Colorado Springs

Costa Mesa, Calif.

Central Falls, R.I.


27 posted on 08/31/2011 6:39:16 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (My mind is like a steel trap: rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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To: freedumb2003
I learned one thing about Texans: They will argue to the grave even when they know they are wrong!

LOL. Man, you got that right.

Looks like you're gonna be pulling in right at the tail end of the heat wave. Just in time for fall. Good timing.

First beer's on me!

28 posted on 08/31/2011 7:22:14 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: ColdOne
Yes it is.

2,160,000 government employees in just one state, not including the tens of thousands who work for the Fed in CA.

The private sector is being gang raped by this obese, all controlling government, which has now been totally infiltrated by leftist, homos, corrupt unions, Communist, and the well dressed criminally corrupt.

29 posted on 08/31/2011 9:25:43 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Tax, inflate,or borrow...it ALL comes out of the PRIVATE economy.


30 posted on 08/31/2011 4:30:38 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (My mind is like a steel trap: rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Yep...BTTT


31 posted on 08/31/2011 9:13:34 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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