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NASA warns 'risk of losing' space station rising
AFP, Google ^ | 8/30/11 | Jean-Louis Santini

Posted on 08/30/2011 7:47:13 PM PDT by Nachum

WASHINGTON — The risk of an unprecedented evacuation of the International Space Station will spike if Russian craft cannot resume their missions and return by November, a senior NASA official has warned.

"There is a greater risk of losing the ISS when it's unmanned than if it were manned," Michael Suffredini, the ISS program manager for the US space agency, said in a conference call with Russian officials.

"The risk increase is not insignificant," he added.

Russia on Monday delayed its next manned mission to the ISS by at least a month after an unmanned cargo vessel crashed into Siberia instead of reaching orbit on August 24. The head of Russia's manned spaceflight programme also warned that a significantly longer delay would force the six people on board the station to abandon the orbiter due to fatigue and supply problems.

The station crew normally consists of six -- currently three Russians, two Americans and one Japanese -- working six-month rotations.

Staff safety and the "very big investment" that the Russian and US governments have made in the ISS would guide future decisions, Suffredini said during the call on Monday.

"We prefer not to operate in that condition without crew on board for an extended period of time just to make sure we end up in that situation.

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To: LibWhacker
Ronald Reagan is the only president in recent memory to have known it: Don’t enter into any “cooperative” deals with the Russians.

Indeed. He had a space station project, "Freedom" ready to go at a fraction of the price. The 'Rat Congress and RINO GHWB killed it in the late '80s and threw our lot in with the Russians to build Alpha.

51 posted on 08/30/2011 8:30:33 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: DManA
I don’t understand that comment. Could you expand on it?

You mentioned "Industrial Central Planning" in post #37.

52 posted on 08/30/2011 8:32:07 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Nachum

well, ain’t that a kick in the head for space exploration..


53 posted on 08/30/2011 8:33:22 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: buccaneer81

The replies I have heard to your comments sound like people in the 1500s saying why go to the new world? its expensive and its a long trip. what good is it to explore?

I wish we had a new fleet of shuttles making frequent trips into space and a new manned lunar exploration program.


54 posted on 08/30/2011 8:34:03 PM PDT by Redcitizen (Transmute lead into gold-- buy ammunition.)
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To: buccaneer81

Yea? You consider that grounds to smear me as a conspiracy theorist?


55 posted on 08/30/2011 8:34:22 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Redcitizen

Where exactly do you think we are going to explore? And how does this contraption get is there?


56 posted on 08/30/2011 8:35:22 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA
Yea? You consider that grounds to smear me as a conspiracy theorist?

It was sarcasm, Francis.

A smear? You're certainly paranoid enough to believe in conspiracies.

57 posted on 08/30/2011 8:36:26 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

Oh, sarcasm. That makes it all better.


58 posted on 08/30/2011 8:38:52 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA
Where exactly do you think we are going to explore?

It's called "The Universe."

59 posted on 08/30/2011 8:39:12 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

Forever I do not know, but man as a mortal in the present age and the one to come... yes. After that, I venture no guess.


60 posted on 08/30/2011 8:39:43 PM PDT by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: DManA

Grow up. All you have is hate toward the program.


61 posted on 08/30/2011 8:40:02 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

Do you have any concept of how big the universe is?


62 posted on 08/30/2011 8:40:17 PM PDT by DManA
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To: dfwgator

Yup. All the others forgot the verify part. I don’t believe RR would’ve entered into the ISS effort simply because verifying the quality of the Russian work would be impractical. They dragged their feet like crazy, resulting in a couple of lengthy delays, produced defective parts right and left, costing us tens of millions more than it should have, maybe a hundred million more. And now they’re about to abandon it and there isn’t a whole lot we can do about it except squawk. And Obama won’t even do that.


63 posted on 08/30/2011 8:40:44 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: DManA

Explore space with a Conestoga wagon.


64 posted on 08/30/2011 8:41:28 PM PDT by Redcitizen (Transmute lead into gold-- buy ammunition.)
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To: buccaneer81

Calm down. Chill out. No hatred in any of my posts. Really, you have problem.


65 posted on 08/30/2011 8:41:47 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Nachum

Yeah, if squatters move in, you’ll never get them out.


66 posted on 08/30/2011 8:42:17 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Redcitizen

Agree 100%. We have a disturbing number of Luddites and ill-educated (on space) people on FR, though. No wonder NASA went down under Obama.


67 posted on 08/30/2011 8:42:22 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: DManA
Do you have any concept of how big the universe is?

It's a great big universe/And we're all really puny/We're just tiny specks/'Bout the size of Mickey Rooney....

68 posted on 08/30/2011 8:42:37 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: DManA

No, my FRiend, you came in with a bad attitude.


69 posted on 08/30/2011 8:43:19 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Nachum

Obama doesn’t give a SHIT about this. He wanted to TEAR DOWN American Exceptionalism. He got it.

I have NEVER been sooooo pissed in my life. As a child, I wanted to be an astronaut. I went to Cape Canaveral before the ‘shoot to the moon’ took off to view the rocket on the landing pad. All the way back from trip.....”Man on the moon! Man on the moon!” It struck awe and wonder in me. Couple of weeks later.....watching the black and white images and hearing the “beeps” to “Houston”. We ran out in the front yard and took a Polaroid of the moon.

This area BOOMED after that. Filled with hope and promise. Now we have to ‘hitch a ride’, and NASA is used for ‘Muslim Outreach’.


70 posted on 08/30/2011 8:43:19 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Mr. Weiner...Don' t Tweet your meat. It's too late to delete!)
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To: Redcitizen

I think you skewer that analogy pretty effectively.


71 posted on 08/30/2011 8:44:48 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA
Do you have any concept of how big the universe is?

So we should just stay home and forget about it?

How big did the unknown look to the ocean explorers of a thousand years ago?

72 posted on 08/30/2011 8:45:15 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

Unless you have some practical idea how to traverse distances that are beyond our wildest imaginations......


73 posted on 08/30/2011 8:47:31 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

You needed an analogy that you can understand.


74 posted on 08/30/2011 8:47:31 PM PDT by Redcitizen (Transmute lead into gold-- buy ammunition.)
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To: Redcitizen

NASA has never promised they could explore the universe.


75 posted on 08/30/2011 8:48:51 PM PDT by DManA
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To: 3boysdad

So you’re one of those “Space exploration isn’t in God’s plan” people?


76 posted on 08/30/2011 8:48:55 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

I’m totally disgusted by the way it unraveled. Now we’re going to have to wait for another Republican administration that’s not wet-behind-the-ears when it comes to understanding the ill will much of the rest of the world has for us, before we get another leg up in space again, and hope it remains in office long enough to get us off the ground. It’s hard to be optimistic.


77 posted on 08/30/2011 8:49:18 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: DManA
Do you have any concept of how big the universe is?

It took months to cross oceans and continents as little as 200 years ago. With your attitude, it still would.

78 posted on 08/30/2011 8:50:56 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

I’m betting they will evacuate, and let the thing die. The truth is probably we no longer want anything to do with it, and letting it go in such a way would be a way to politically save face, while making it look like a failure on the part of the Russkies. I doubt the Russians want anything to do with it either.


79 posted on 08/30/2011 8:52:57 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: LibWhacker
I'm 48. I seriously doubt that I'll see man land on Mars in my lifetime. When I was six, the tentative timeline was a US manned Mars landing between 1986 and 1990.

It's just sad.

80 posted on 08/30/2011 8:53:42 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

Your analogy is inapplicable. People crossed ocean for thousands of years using technology available to anyone.

No one has any idea how to cross the void of space even to the nearest star.


81 posted on 08/30/2011 8:55:02 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

So? No guarantees in life either.


82 posted on 08/30/2011 8:55:53 PM PDT by Redcitizen (Transmute lead into gold-- buy ammunition.)
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To: KoRn
The truth is probably we no longer want anything to do with it,

You mean OBAMA and his leftist rats want nothing more to do with it.

As for the Russians, you couldn't be more wrong. They're in it for the long haul...they have been since 1957. They're a lot more patient than we are.

83 posted on 08/30/2011 8:56:37 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: KoRn
The truth is probably we no longer want anything to do with it,

You mean OBAMA and his leftist rats want nothing more to do with it.

As for the Russians, you couldn't be more wrong. They're in it for the long haul...they have been since 1957. They're a lot more patient than we are.

84 posted on 08/30/2011 8:56:40 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Redcitizen

I don’t understand what you’re saying to me.


85 posted on 08/30/2011 8:58:22 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA
No one has any idea how to cross the void of space even to the nearest star.

All kinds of proposals have been put forth. At this point it would have to be a multi-generation ship.

But progress will happen. We went from ZERO powered flight to a manned lunar landing in 65 years, seven months.

86 posted on 08/30/2011 8:59:18 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

Nope. It just ain’t gonna happen now. And that’s just using common sense. We’re all about to collectively destroy the world as we know it - ending the present “age”-, and then it’s gonna take a while to rebuild it (the commoing age) with the new Leadership. Space exporation won’t the be the number one priority for a while.

Besides, the current technology will not take us anywhere. A paradigm shift in knowledge is needed before space exporation is even possible.


87 posted on 08/30/2011 9:01:09 PM PDT by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: 4rcane

We have had the war on cancer going on for the last 40 plus years 10’s of if not 100’s of Billions of Dollars on research and where are we. No closer to a cure than we were.


88 posted on 08/30/2011 9:01:13 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: 3boysdad

I’m glad not everybody has your attitude. Thank God for Bigelow, SpaceX, Branson and others.


89 posted on 08/30/2011 9:02:39 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: 3boysdad
Besides, the current technology will not take us anywhere.

As I said, we went from ZERO powered flight to a manned lunar landing in 65 years, seven months.

90 posted on 08/30/2011 9:04:09 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

None of these are practical proposals. The theories depend on energies that no one can conceive of generating.

I believe in basic research. No one can predict where basic research will lead. I HATE these stories that excoriate scientists that put crickets on treadmills.


91 posted on 08/30/2011 9:04:42 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA
The theories depend on energies that no one can conceive of generating.

You mean like jet engines and nuclear power in 1890?

92 posted on 08/30/2011 9:06:18 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: wrench

Dunno about that. There’s one experiment called “I-Foam” or “Italian Foam.” I didn’t read the details, but maybe its about deep-space cappuccino foam. Now that would be useful for the exploration of Mars.


93 posted on 08/30/2011 9:06:21 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I know this saddens me beyond belief. As a young kid I wrote letters to NASA asking about the space program. They sent me all these glossy picks about everything. It was so cool, we felt that we were in on the adventure. Now we have a POS in the White House who could give a rats ass. Don’t worry Zero we are coming for you. We will make things right again in this county, we will make things right in this world again.
God bless our soilders, their families!


94 posted on 08/30/2011 9:07:06 PM PDT by Empireoftheatom48 (Tag line under construction, please mind the gap!!)
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To: buccaneer81

Looks like a lot of “fluff” and mission justification to me.


95 posted on 08/30/2011 9:08:02 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Empireoftheatom48

:*-(

Amen, and AMEN!


96 posted on 08/30/2011 9:09:33 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Mr. Weiner...Don' t Tweet your meat. It's too late to delete!)
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To: buccaneer81

No, like nuclear power time 10^1000


97 posted on 08/30/2011 9:10:40 PM PDT by DManA
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To: count-your-change
Looks like a lot of “fluff” and mission justification to me.

A lot of it is corporate. They don't usually spend money on "fluff."

98 posted on 08/30/2011 9:10:46 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: DManA
No, like nuclear power time 10^1000

Which today looks to use like a rudimentary reactor looked to the people of the early 20th century.

You seem to believe that human scientific progress has been halted as of now.

99 posted on 08/30/2011 9:13:17 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

When will we spend millions of dollars on the war on death?!! Cancer is nobel enough to be sure, but who wants to die of death?!! Don’t whip me, crown me with thorns, make me carry my cross, nail me to my cross, then pierce me with a spear. Please! I don’t want to die! Rapture me now! Save me from your pain Lord. I can’t be like you.


100 posted on 08/30/2011 9:13:38 PM PDT by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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