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They can't Speak it but they can Teach it
Yuma Sun ^ | Aug 30, 2011 | Howard Fischer

Posted on 08/31/2011 10:11:07 AM PDT by pfflier

A Yuma-area official is pleased that state education officials will no longer force schools to retrain or reassign English immersion teachers because they speak with an accent.

In an agreement with two federal agencies, the Arizona Department of Education (ADE) will stop trying to single out teachers who they believe do not have a good command of the English language.

For example, the federal agencies said, state officials documented instances where one teacher pronounced the word “the'' as “da.'' In a separate incident, a teacher pronounced “another'' as “anuder'' and where “lives here'' came out as “leeves here.''

(Excerpt) Read more at yumasun.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; english; teacher
This is about English language immersion instruction. Now, it appears that we are dealing with the spanglish version of ebonics.

In the TV story last night, they also said that the teachers used bad grammar.

1 posted on 08/31/2011 10:11:10 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: pfflier

“How do I reech these keeeeds?”—Eric Carman


2 posted on 08/31/2011 10:13:00 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: pfflier

Thas boolsheet.


3 posted on 08/31/2011 10:13:00 AM PDT by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: subterfuge
“How do I reech these keeeeds?”—Eric Carman

CARTMAN

4 posted on 08/31/2011 10:13:45 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: pfflier

If you really want to assess how “bi-lingual” an individual is, have them write three paragraphs in both languages. Most will prove to be mono-lingual, if that.


5 posted on 08/31/2011 10:16:30 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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Yep. I’m bilingual, and the number of incompetent teachers out there blocking me and who have no knowledge of my other language is unbelievable. It’s a PC mafya of Union members and foreigners brought in and what not, and most of them do not speak my language well, just a creole version of it that is just ridiculous.


6 posted on 08/31/2011 10:21:10 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: humblegunner
When I was working in aerospace, I worked with an intern from Mexico that was always talking about "Mealing shits of still".

BTW he was a great kid and really proved his value when we opened our maquiladora in Tijuana.

7 posted on 08/31/2011 10:24:20 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: pfflier

He leeves here and drives a peek up truck and has a german shepard names reen teen teen


8 posted on 08/31/2011 10:26:38 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: kittymyrib

Chances are you will find them to be illiterate in both languages.


9 posted on 08/31/2011 10:31:45 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: pfflier
For example, the federal agencies said, state officials documented instances where one teacher pronounced the word “the'' as “da.'' In a separate incident, a teacher pronounced “another'' as “anuder''

So that state did not like New Yorkers?

10 posted on 08/31/2011 10:33:08 AM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama is Priority Number One)
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To: pfflier

This sounds, again, like a turf war between the Federal government Department of Education and The State’s Dept of Ed, complicated, as usual, by an out-of-control immigrant influx, the unions and politics. It won’t ultimately be about education, but about local sovereignty.


11 posted on 08/31/2011 10:38:15 AM PDT by RhoTheta ("We're from the Government, and we're here to help you ... NOT")
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To: pfflier
A Yuma-area official is pleased that state education officials will no longer force schools to retrain or reassign English immersion teachers because they speak with an accent.

The problem with these stories is that the instigator directly responsible for an egregious decision is never identified.
In my opinion, this sort of decision should be subject to instant dismissal.

Still, I would like to know what justification, if any, was provided to justify this directive.

For too long, public positions have been used as another form of welfare. The education of children should not be among those forms of "public welfare-employment."

Names. We need names!

12 posted on 08/31/2011 10:38:27 AM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: pfflier
one teacher pronounced the word "the" as "da." In a separate incident, a teacher pronounced "another" as "anuder"

From New Yawk, ah ya? Fugedabodit.
13 posted on 08/31/2011 10:42:46 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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No, dees guys are from Atzlan


14 posted on 08/31/2011 11:09:24 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Polybius

What about that Southern language. Sometime they are VERY hard to understand. So I can understand Arizona wanting to have good English speakers.


15 posted on 08/31/2011 11:22:24 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: kittymyrib
If you really want to assess how “bi-lingual” an individual is, have them write three paragraphs in both languages. Most will prove to be mono-lingual, if that.

That is probably true in a totally educational context, but;
Functional multilingualism depends on constant or frequent use. At one time I was fluent in Spanish and French, when I visited Spain and France once or twice a year, and family members shared the foreign language experience.

After years of non use, the ancillary languages tend to fade, so the "paragraphs test" would tend to fail. However, a week or a few weeks in the foreign environment, and 90% of the original facility is quickly respored. It's not a simple memory-practical use excercise.

16 posted on 08/31/2011 12:34:01 PM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: Genoa
My grandson just had a spelling test. The teacher asked them to spell the word “uh” Most of the kids got it wrong Because the word was “a”. People with poor diction always say,”Got uh pen ?”. So now they are teaching it pronounced “uh” So wish my grandchildren were home schooled.
17 posted on 08/31/2011 1:03:09 PM PDT by heylady
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To: heylady

“Uh” should have received full credit. It is used very frequently by those who can’t quite think of the appropriate word, by everyone from our President right on down to ordinary citizens.


18 posted on 08/31/2011 1:07:15 PM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: napscoordinator
What about that Southern language. Sometime they are VERY hard to understand.

Put a Maine lobsterman and an Alabama sharecropper in a room together and you'll think they're speaking two different languages!

19 posted on 08/31/2011 1:11:22 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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Ping!


20 posted on 08/31/2011 1:18:02 PM PDT by HiJinx ("The wealthy and satisfied do not migrate, they stagnate." ~ Louis L'Amour)
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To: pfflier
will stop trying to single out teachers who they believe do not have a good command of the English language.
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An **ACCENT** does is NOT the same as not having “ a good command of the English language!

21 posted on 08/31/2011 1:29:28 PM PDT by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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