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Cops Confiscate Lakewood Lady’s Arsenal; Motive Pending
Scene Magazine ^ | Tuesday, August 30, 2011 | Kyle Swenson

Posted on 09/01/2011 5:00:42 AM PDT by ronnyquest

Francesca Rice no longer serves in her country’s armed forces, but she brought a piece of the action back home with her.

It seems the Lakewood vet had stockpiled her Edgewater Towers condo with a home arsenal including handguns, shotguns, a sniper rifle — plus a Thompson sub-machine gun, just in case the pizza guy got fresh.

Her cache somehow caught the attention of Lakewood Police, who paid a visit last September. When they found Rice wasn’t home, they asked an obliging employee of the complex to open up the apartment without her consent. Once inside, they raided the gun rack, making off with 13 firearms worth around $15,000. The only problem: They had no apparent reason to.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: banglist; communism; confiscation; cops; corruption; cwii; govtabuse; guns; jbt; leocorruption; liberalfascism; lping; ohio; policestate; rapeofliberty; roguecop; tyranny; unconstitutional; unions; waronliberty
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More corrupt cops confiscating private property for no reason, entering and seizing firearms from a private home with no warrant, and refusing to return illegally-obtained property without a court order. When will enough be enough, America?
1 posted on 09/01/2011 5:00:44 AM PDT by ronnyquest
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To: ronnyquest
plus a Thompson sub-machine gun, just in case the pizza guy got fresh.

Kyle Swenson (reporter) needs to avoid comedy.

2 posted on 09/01/2011 5:06:11 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: ronnyquest

Someone tipped the cops off that there were some nice guns at this condo - they used their powers of intimidation to gain access to them and to steal them. There are, apparently, some crooked cops in Flakewood (Ohio’s homosexual capital BTW).


3 posted on 09/01/2011 5:07:54 AM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: Last Dakotan

He wasn’t trying to be comedic.

That was his anti-gun bias showing through. Because, you know, all gun owners are nutcases who use fully automatic weapons whenever they can.

I really effing hate the state-run media.


4 posted on 09/01/2011 5:10:39 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: ronnyquest

Where is the lawsuit against the apartment complex


5 posted on 09/01/2011 5:12:15 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: ronnyquest

Sounds like a small collection, less than what I have even.
I bet SWAT would get really upset if it was found that there is millions of pitchforks being bought covertly all across America as I type this and are being secretly stockpiled in hidden warehouses to then be shipped out as needed when the peasants want to remove the corrupt officials.

Time to start hoarding pitchforks!


6 posted on 09/01/2011 5:12:40 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Daniel J. Ramsey 1956-2012)
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To: Last Dakotan
Kyle Swenson (reporter) needs to avoid comedy.

Uh..yeah. I seriously doubt that L'il Miss had an FTL and the proper paperwork to own a Thompson.

Even still, the JBT had no legal authority to enter her apartment. A lot of detail missing from this story...as usual.

7 posted on 09/01/2011 5:15:43 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Deploy. Dominate. Disappear.)
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To: ronnyquest
By way of the comments on the article, Lakewood Ohio is already notorious. The union thugs (also known as cops) in this corrupt department already have conceded that the raid had no warrent and was illegal, but they STILL won't return the weapons without court order.

Basically, thieves, pure and simple.

8 posted on 09/01/2011 5:17:04 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If Hitler had been as lazy as Obama, the 1940's would have been a very nice decade!!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

There’s no indication it’s full-auto at all.


9 posted on 09/01/2011 5:18:04 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If Hitler had been as lazy as Obama, the 1940's would have been a very nice decade!!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
If the entire collection was worth $15K, then there is no way the Thompson is full-auto.

More likely just a semi-auto.

10 posted on 09/01/2011 5:19:01 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: ronnyquest
"When will enough be enough, America?"

When police helicopters fall in flames. Until then, they'll do pretty much as they like.

Negotiating with power mad predators leads to the same outcome as the phographer who thought he had a kinship with Alaskan bears.

11 posted on 09/01/2011 5:20:49 AM PDT by tarotsailor
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Most likely you are right.


12 posted on 09/01/2011 5:20:55 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Daniel J. Ramsey 1956-2012)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Uh..yeah. I seriously doubt that L'il Miss had an FTL and the proper paperwork to own a Thompson.

I really doubt she needed it, as the Thompson was almost assuredly a post-war semi-auto replica firearm. A real class III Thompson is worth more than the total dollar amount that they gave for the collection.

So she had a semi-auto .45 carbine, not a submachine gun.

13 posted on 09/01/2011 5:20:55 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: ronnyquest
More corrupt cops confiscating private property for no reason, entering and seizing firearms from a private home with no warrant, and refusing to return illegally-obtained property without a court order

Fixed it. This is standard police procedure. This will continue to happen until the individual police who do this sort of KGB/Stassi stuff are held criminally liable for their actions. Look at what happened in New Orleans after Katrina.

When will enough be enough, America?

Also how long before FR's resident jackboot lickers chime in to justify what the thugs in blue did this time?

14 posted on 09/01/2011 5:21:11 AM PDT by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
More likely just a semi-auto.

And truth be told...probably a replica and not a genuine Thompson.

15 posted on 09/01/2011 5:21:24 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Deploy. Dominate. Disappear.)
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To: ronnyquest; CholeraJoe; Delta 21; Nikas777; NoAmnesty; Yorlik803; TheOldLady; The Comedian; ...


Amid all the zipped lips, there’s a moral here for everybody: Gun owners, beware of law enforcement looking to trod upon your rights. And non-gun owners, beware of neighbors who are particularly well prepared for the zombie apocalypse.

The last paragraph in this story is applicable to the list for a ping.
16 posted on 09/01/2011 5:21:24 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("I can see 2012 from my house!" Jim Thompson, 7-16-2011)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Uh..yeah. I seriously doubt that L'il Miss had an FTL and the proper paperwork to own a Thompson.

There are semi-auto replicas of the Thompson for sale, which is probably what she had.

17 posted on 09/01/2011 5:23:23 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: Lazamataz
By way of the comments on the article, Lakewood Ohio is already notorious. The union thugs (also known as cops) in this corrupt department already have conceded that the raid had no warrent and was illegal, but they STILL won't return the weapons without court order.

Tranlation: The cops beginning with the chief have already taken them home.

18 posted on 09/01/2011 5:25:13 AM PDT by sport
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To: SampleMan; Last Dakotan; Bloody Sam Roberts

>>> So she had a semi-auto .45 carbine, not a submachine gun.

Perhaps not even that. I knew a deputy sheriff who had a semi-auto replica racketeer Thompson in 22 cal. Nice little toy, and affordable to shoot.


19 posted on 09/01/2011 5:27:55 AM PDT by tlb
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To: ronnyquest

The Cops-Can-Do-No-Wrong Crowd, a/k/a jackboot lickers,copsuckers[Courtsey of Laz] are going to be on you like ugly on an ape for posting this.After all, if the can vigorusly, vocally,an unconditionally defend them for at least six of them beating a man to death and letting the man they shot in Pima County bleed to death,what you posted was child’s play for them.


20 posted on 09/01/2011 5:34:03 AM PDT by sport
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts; Lazamataz

I know vets who own full auto weapons. If you have the money and patience it’s not hard to get them if you live in a state where it’s legal.

I call BS though, because the whole collection was valued at $15,000. A single full auto would be that much alone.


21 posted on 09/01/2011 5:38:05 AM PDT by Second Amendment First ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..." - Thomas Jefferson.)
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To: ronnyquest

Sounds like Ms Rice needs a Claymore setup on her front door.

Cops can’t steal guns when they get blown to little bits.


22 posted on 09/01/2011 5:38:24 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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To: tlb
Perhaps not even that. I knew a deputy sheriff who had a semi-auto replica racketeer Thompson in 22 cal.

I picked up a semi-auto Thompson in a local gun shop just yesterday - chambered in .45 ACP.

Undoubtedly what she had.

23 posted on 09/01/2011 5:43:24 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Sounds like Ms Rice needs a Claymore setup on her front door.

Unlike what the police stole from MS Rice, Claymores are actually illegal. However, various sized muzzle loading short barreled carronade replicas are not, and while not as easily concealed as a Claymore are just as capable of being command detonated and just as capable of shredding a group.

24 posted on 09/01/2011 5:51:51 AM PDT by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Here is a list of what was stolen by the police

“SKS M-21 Sniper Rifle” (Probably an SKS with the full Tapco catalog applied)
Ruger Blackhawk .357
Sentinel Arms 12 gauge
Gemtech .22LR (She’s got a suppressed something!)
Ruger Mk II (which the Gemtech probably goes on.)
Springfield .45 (She’s a 1911 owner)
Makarov
Thompson M1928 semi-auto
Mossberg 500 (ubiquitous 12ga. pump)
Valkyrie Arms M3 (semi-auto version of the Grease Gun)
S&W 686 (she’s got good taste in wheelguns)
Antique double-barreled percussion shotgun
Colt M1851 revolver

The total collection is worth no where near $15K


25 posted on 09/01/2011 5:52:25 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Had enough?)
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To: ronnyquest

Geez, how many Constitutional rights were they going for anyway? Is there a contest we don’t know about between officers to see who can trample the most rights? Do they get a bonus for breaking the most laws in the process?

You’ve got individual officers here that have broken their oaths. You’ve got their supervisors who have broken theirs. You’ve got the chief of police. You’ve got the city council and the mayor. The whole city’s leadership is in question here.

Sounds like this young woman could own the city before this is over. If the judge handling the case doesn’t act quickly, she could own him too.

The city’s attorney should have refused to take this to court. He should have ordered the officers to return the property has fast as they could. Instead he has compromised himself.

In essence you’ve got officers who committed armed robbery here. I know that sound crazy, but it’s exactly what took place. They were armed. They requested an employee of the apartment building open a door illegally under color or authority. They stole the weapons. The police department now has stolen property in it’s possession. They refuse to give it back even after having time to ponder their exposure.

You’ve got individual officers who could be brought up on charges. You’ve got supervisors who could be brought up on charges. You’ve got a police chief who could be brought up on charges.

Whoever is representing the officer should be held accountable as well.

These guys are guilty of crimes. They know the law. The list is long.

Here are some of the possibles...

Being armed in the commission of multiple crimes
Conspiracy to commit a crime
Co-conspirators to the crime prior to the act
Accessories to the crime after the fact
Fifteen counts of theft
Fifteen counts, the possession of stolen property
Illegal entry under the color of authority
Coercing a citizen to commit a crime under color of authority
Illegal search and seizure
Second Amendment violations
Fourth Amendment violations
Refusal to abide by the laws they swore to uphold.

The guy who opened the door for the officers could be brought up on charges too.

Illegally opening a door for officers without a warrant

Being an accomplice to:

Conspiracy
Illegal entry
Theft
The infringement of another persons constitutional rights

Any judge handling this case, should demand these people show up in court.

The officers who did this
All supervisors who know of this in advance
All officers who knew of this in advance
All officers who knew of this after the fact
All supervisors who knew of this after the fact
The police chief

Every one of these people participated in a crime.

Every one of these people either committed the crime, knew of the crime, approved of the crime, and failed to report the crime to someone higher up, even if that meant having to go outside the department to do so. Until this was addressed, they should have kept on telling the next person up the ladder. The district attorney, the FBI...

When you get right down to it, this is evidence of massive corruption.

There isn’t a cop in this nation that doesn’t know this was wrong. There isn’t an officer in this nation that doesn’t know what their duty is, once they know a crime has been committed.


26 posted on 09/01/2011 5:53:11 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain 5 yrs Left/1 year right "BAD!" - Republicans 3 yrs Right 1 year Left to elect RINOs. "Good?")
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To: from occupied ga
Claymores are actually illegal.

True...but at one time, cops entering your home without a warrant and stealing your guns was illegal, too.

27 posted on 09/01/2011 5:53:35 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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To: sport

There is a least one admin mod who takes his/her copsucking seriously too. I got a thread pulled on the Detroit police shooting of the little girl because it was “controversial.” I’ve had posts pulled for using the term “copsucker”


28 posted on 09/01/2011 5:54:22 AM PDT by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: bang_list; Joe Brower
Here is the list!

"SKS M-21 Sniper Rifle"
Ruger Blackhawk .357
Sentinel Arms 12 gauge
Gemtech .22LR suppressor
Ruger Mk II
Springfield .45 Makarov
Thompson M1928 semi-auto
Mossberg 500
Valkyrie Arms M3
S&W 686
Antique double-barreled percussion shotgun
Colt M1851 revolver

29 posted on 09/01/2011 5:56:32 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Forget the Lawyers....first kill the journalists! - Die Ritter, die sagen, nee)
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To: Hacklehead

That’s a pitifully lame collection.

If they ever torch my house with me in it, I hope some resourceful Freeper tracks down and publishes my full collection list, so y’all can give me a moment of respectful silence with your hat over your heart, and give my collection an honorable farewell.


30 posted on 09/01/2011 5:57:48 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Are you better off now than you were four trillion dollars ago?)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
True...but at one time, cops entering your home without a warrant and stealing your guns was illegal,

Oh it's still illegal, but they were following the fine American tradition started by Colonel Francis Smith and General Gage. Cops just don't get held accountable for the crimes they commit while on the job.

31 posted on 09/01/2011 5:58:23 AM PDT by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: ronnyquest

Look on the cops’ Facebook pages. You’ll probably find pictures of one of them posing with that Thompson.


32 posted on 09/01/2011 5:58:43 AM PDT by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. -USMC bandsman in Iraq)
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To: from occupied ga
Claymores are actually illegal.

Only if you didnt register them in the 68 amnesty as a DD.

There are about a hundred of them on the national firearms registration and transfer record legally registered. Most of them are owned by Dillon and one guy that works at THiolkol? that has most of the HE M203 rounds that are legal.

Form a company and get a type 10 FFL/02 and make them yourself! I just wish it was that easy.

33 posted on 09/01/2011 6:01:22 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Forget the Lawyers....first kill the journalists! - Die Ritter, die sagen, nee)
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To: Hacklehead
SKS sniper rifle? Thompson submachine gun? Stupid reporter doesn't know crap.
34 posted on 09/01/2011 6:05:30 AM PDT by smithandwesson76subgun (full auto fun)
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To: ronnyquest

Any moment now, the ACLU will be issuing a statement that Ms. Rice’s 2nd, 5th and 14th Amendment rights were just violated.


35 posted on 09/01/2011 6:06:40 AM PDT by Daffynition ("Don't just live your life, but witness it also.")
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To: sport

They can try. They can also kiss my ass.


36 posted on 09/01/2011 6:10:14 AM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of freedom only to see fascism elected at home.)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Good find, DCBryan1!

I'd say that's a 'good start' on a collection...

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

37 posted on 09/01/2011 6:11:15 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

the cops stated that all the guns were legally owned!


38 posted on 09/01/2011 6:11:46 AM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country!)
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To: sport; from occupied ga

And posters arguing *what a gun was worth bah-blah-blah* who the heck cares?....the *IMPORTANT* thing is that god-given rights were violated ....and those of you who don’t live in Connecticut and similar places, have *NO* idea how insidious these rogue cops are...and your enabling neighbors who will turn you in at the drop of a hat.

I think every gun owner in Ohio should show up on the steps of Lakewood Police Chief Timothy Malley’s jail house, and *nicely* ask for her collection back. No matter *what* the damn stuff is worth. Immediately.

Yesterday there was a post about Detroit gun buy-back with a video of the rogue cops and how they pull stuff out of their @ss and make-up law as they go along.

Welcome to the new Fascism gang. It’s here.


39 posted on 09/01/2011 6:18:10 AM PDT by Daffynition ("Don't just live your life, but witness it also.")
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To: DCBryan1
Only if you didnt register them in the 68 amnesty as a DD. ...

True, but practically speaking it's pretty much impossible to get a legal one which is why I mad the observation about the replica carronades. In the battle of Trafalgar the first shot that the Victory fired was from a carronade that killed a number of French sailors and marines. Nelson's carronades were 3 ton monsters that fired an entire barrel of musket balls as well as round shot at the same time, but a scaled down version is still effective.

40 posted on 09/01/2011 6:20:31 AM PDT by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: ronnyquest

Hope you have a nice big slush fund for attorney fees.

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=144957


41 posted on 09/01/2011 6:23:15 AM PDT by Daffynition ("Don't just live your life, but witness it also.")
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Uh..yeah. I seriously doubt that L'il Miss had an FTL and the proper paperwork to own a Thompson.

There is no reason to doubt that. It is not like the paper work is all that hard to do. Now the COST of the firearm is another matter. I doubt it was Class III for that reason.
42 posted on 09/01/2011 6:24:36 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: sport; Lazamataz

If this is Ms Rice then definitely not guilty, but would Laz "hit it?"

43 posted on 09/01/2011 6:25:58 AM PDT by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: DCBryan1

What is a “Springfield .45 Makarov”. Either that is two guns or she had something very rare that I have not heard of.


44 posted on 09/01/2011 6:28:30 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Daffynition
Welcome to the new Fascism gang. It’s here.

That is what a lot of us have been saying.

45 posted on 09/01/2011 6:37:59 AM PDT by sport
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To: ronnyquest

Great attitude!


46 posted on 09/01/2011 6:38:59 AM PDT by sport
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
"Uh..yeah. I seriously doubt that L'il Miss had an FTL and the proper paperwork to own a Thompson."

Why? It is completely legal to own, not particularly expensive to obtain the "permit" to exercise your God-given right (a part of the problem), and the M1928 or M1A1 is not particularly expensive (about $7000), compared to more modern fully-automatic weapons. I know women who own fully-automatic weapons, one of whom owns an M2. My completely legal MAC-10 cost only $3900 with a suppressor (also completely legal). Your assertion is silly.

47 posted on 09/01/2011 6:40:47 AM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of freedom only to see fascism elected at home.)
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To: from occupied ga

There used to be an old saying,”There is one in every crowd” and another, “There is one in every outfit”.


48 posted on 09/01/2011 6:41:17 AM PDT by sport
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To: sport
I'm losing faith.


49 posted on 09/01/2011 6:48:54 AM PDT by Daffynition ("Don't just live your life, but witness it also.")
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
"Uh..yeah. I seriously doubt that L'il Miss had an FTL and the proper paperwork to own a Thompson."

I believe that there is a semi-auto version of the Thompson avalable.

Of course, if you expect ACCURACY of coverage of firearms by the media, you're being overly optimistic. Remember...ALL firearms are lethal street-sweeper full auto sniper rifels to them.

50 posted on 09/01/2011 6:51:45 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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