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Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree'
Politico ^ | 8/31/11 | JAKE SHERMAN

Posted on 09/01/2011 11:34:40 AM PDT by americanophile

A top lawmaker in the Congressional Black Caucus says tea partiers on Capitol Hill would like to see African-Americans hanging from trees and accuses the movement of wishing for a return to the Jim Crow era.

Rep. Andre Carson, a Democrat from Indiana who serves as the CBC’s chief vote counter, said at a CBC event in Miami that some in Congress would “love to see us as second-class citizens” and “some of them in Congress right now of this tea party movement would love to see you and me ... hanging on a tree.”

Carson also said the tea party is stopping change in Congress, likening it to “the effort that we’re seeing of Jim Crow.”

The explosive comments, caught on tape, were uploaded on the Internet Tuesday, and Carson’s office stood by the remarks. Jason Tomcsi, Carson’s spokesman, said the comment was “in response to frustration voiced by many in Miami and in his home district in Indianapolis regarding Congress’s inability to bolster the economy.” Tomcsi, in an email, wrote that “the congressman used strong language because the Tea Party agenda jeopardizes our most vulnerable and leaves them without the ability to improve their economic standing.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: andrecarson; barackpouffers; blackkkk; blackracism; carson; cbc; congress; corruption; democratcorruption; democratplantation; democrats; liberalfascism; racebaiting; racebaitingpimp; racecard; racism; teaparty
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1 posted on 09/01/2011 11:34:45 AM PDT by americanophile
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To: americanophile

It’s true, he said it.


2 posted on 09/01/2011 11:36:56 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: americanophile

Pure desperation, its what they use when they have nothing else..their own party is deserting them in groves, so they pull this crap to pull them right back in. The Race card, played from the bottom of the deck, its really pathetic but what more can they do, they have nothing else


3 posted on 09/01/2011 11:39:21 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: americanophile

Rush discussing this right now...

And frankly, if I really want to see his supporters hanging from trees, I can visit Gary, Indiana on any Friday night on a Welfare Check Weekend.

Usually with bullet holes in them, that no one ever admits they saw happen.


4 posted on 09/01/2011 11:39:24 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Democrats have been OUTFORCING America's jobs for 40 years)
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To: americanophile
because the Tea Party agenda jeopardizes our most vulnerable and leaves them without the ability to improve their economic standing

Well, Congressman Race Baiter - YOUR party was in charge for three years with NO opposition - and it's the TEA Party's fault that your government-entitled constituents don't have a better life?

5 posted on 09/01/2011 11:40:47 AM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Ronald Reagan: "our liberal friends....know so much that isn't so...")
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To: americanophile

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6 posted on 09/01/2011 11:41:23 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: americanophile

I sincerely hope that there are calls for this man’s resignation. If Trent Lott has to go for wishing Strom Thurmond a happy birthday, than this kind of filthy rhetoric has no place. RESIGN!


8 posted on 09/01/2011 11:41:56 AM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

It’s not my fault the search function didn’t work.


9 posted on 09/01/2011 11:42:42 AM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: americanophile

A member of a group that specifically excludes all but race formed to advance the interests of that one race even to the detriment of others is accusing a multi-racial group promoting the interests of all Americans of being racist. I won’t hold my breath waiting for the CNNs of the world to notice.


10 posted on 09/01/2011 11:42:42 AM PDT by hometoroost (Frodo lives!)
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To: hometoroost

should be “all but one” race.


11 posted on 09/01/2011 11:44:29 AM PDT by hometoroost (Frodo lives!)
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To: americanophile
Rep. Andre Carson...said at a CBC event in Miami that some in Congress would “love to see us as second-class citizens”

Actually, Andre, you're contributing mightily to that process yourself.

You and Maxine and Obama are making Americans sit up and notice that you are not one of us. And, then, after you go and accuse productive black Americans of being "Uncle Toms"...I am thinking 2nd class might be a little too high.

How about steerage?

12 posted on 09/01/2011 11:49:45 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: americanophile
Listen to Kevin Jackson's (black author) response to Megyn Kelly today:

"Racists That They Are, Blacks Voted For Obama Because He's Black, Not Because He's Qualified"

13 posted on 09/01/2011 11:52:50 AM PDT by tentmaker
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To: americanophile

Black democrats rape white women.


14 posted on 09/01/2011 11:52:50 AM PDT by NoLibZone (Obama is bad luck for the US.)
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To: americanophile

Meanwhile, let’s not mention Obama and what HE’s done for the black community.


15 posted on 09/01/2011 11:54:22 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: americanophile

Thanks for posting. We need to keep the spotlight on this race-baiting pimp.


16 posted on 09/01/2011 11:54:55 AM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: americanophile

I find KW search doesn’t work too well, but Title search usually does.


17 posted on 09/01/2011 11:55:18 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: americanophile

This is the same guy who made up the story about tea partiers hurling racist slurs against Rep John Lewis during the infamous walk outside the capitol.

http://biggovernment.com/sright/2010/05/06/rep-andre-carson-tea-party-protesters-are-one-of-the-largest-threats-to-our-internal-security/


18 posted on 09/01/2011 11:55:27 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: americanophile

Oh noes ... a return to the awful “Jim Crow.”

Well, let’s see -

(1) In the “Jim Crow era,” 35,000 white women weren’t being raped by blacks in 2005, in a single year, and the media actually reported on stories like that.

(2) In the “Jim Crow era,” Detroit was actually a major city and industrial powerhouse, whereas today it has been destroyed by black people and mayors like Kwame Kilpatrick.

(3) In the “Jim Crow era,” it was still possible to live in our major cities in the South like New Orleans, Birmingham, Memphis, Richmond, and Atlanta, which have been run into the ground by decades of black majority rule.

Back then, black people couldn’t get away with burning down Los Angeles, or terrorizing people in Chicago, or holding the U.S. Congress up for ransom.

(4) In the “Jim Crow era,” North Carolina was a place like Mayberry. It was safe. There were wholesome values. Families sent their children to quality schools. Flash mobs didn’t terrorize white people on the streets. Gangbangers didn’t sell drugs to teenagers in the integrated public schools.

(5) In the “Jim Crow era,” Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton were not taken seriously, and MLK was regarded as a communist and a fraud by J. Edgar Hoover, and Maxine Waters, Jim Clyburn, and this idiot were not in the U.S. Congress.

(6) In the “Jim Crow era,” Barack Hussein Obama wasn’t president, and a race hustler like Eric “My People” Holder wasn’t in charge of the Justice Department, and the NAACP wasn’t taken seriously.

(7) In the “Jim Crow era,” it was okay to be White, whereas in Black Run Amerika being white is something to apologize for and be ashamed of, whereas every single other race (including homosexuals) - blacks in particular - are encouraged by the mainstream media to revel in their racial identity.

(8) In the “Jim Crow era,” America was the most powerful nation in the world in the 1950s, but after fifty years of Black Run Amerika the U.S. economy is about to plunge off the cliff of world history.

Please forgive me.

I don’t think we have made much progress here. If there has been progress, I haven’t seen it. What is progress? Don Lemon on CNN? Al Sharpton on MSNBC? Barack Hussein Obama in the White House?

Every single city in America has named a damn highway after Martin Luther King, Jr. He has been given his own federal holiday. The Confederate flag and Christianity are attacked 24/7/365 days a year.

The black family has been shattered under LBJ’s welfare state. Black Run Amerika is so racist that black people benefit from affirmative action, mandatory diversity training, speech codes, TANF welfare, the EBT card, the WIC, free government cell phones, Section 8 housing, the Pigford settlement for the non-existent black farmers.

Please let me have a debate with this idiot on the floor of Congress. I would bury him under the House of Representatives.


19 posted on 09/01/2011 11:56:46 AM PDT by WilliamHouston
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To: americanophile

“Tea party wants blacks ‘hanging on a tree’”

Congressional Black Democrats are talentless, ignorant, semi-civilized, parasitic, racist thieves.

Now, which of those two statements contains more truth?


20 posted on 09/01/2011 11:57:09 AM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Ya, not this time. I tried the title in title search and Andre Carson in the keywords. Of course it keeps signing me out between postings as well, even when I’m replying to a thread, so something’s up.


21 posted on 09/01/2011 11:58:20 AM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: americanophile

Rep. Andre Carson wants to behead all republicans.


22 posted on 09/01/2011 11:59:19 AM PDT by NoLibZone (Obama is bad luck for the US.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

there should be an “auto search and suggest” built into the posting procedure.

“Would save tons of bandwidth, and hot-air, slowing global warming ...


23 posted on 09/01/2011 11:59:38 AM PDT by ROTB (Sans Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia when we revolt.)
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To: NoLibZone
He is one of two Muslims in Congress.
24 posted on 09/01/2011 12:00:17 PM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: WilliamHouston

Lets have a debate about the fact that 96 percent of the crime in Chicago is caused by “people of color” and 92 percent of the crime in Atlanta is caused by “people of color” ... just like 85 percent of the robbery in Georgia.

If the Congressional Black Caucus and Eric “My People” Holder want a “conversation about race,” then maybe it is time for the defense to answer the prosecution with our dossier???


25 posted on 09/01/2011 12:01:18 PM PDT by WilliamHouston
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To: americanophile

I wouldn’t mind seeing Andre Carson become a PRIVATE citizen again. We need to Grayson guys like him.


26 posted on 09/01/2011 12:02:53 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: RoosterRedux

You and Maxine and Obama are making Americans sit up and notice that you are not one of us...


You forgot to add Eric "My People" Holder to your list :-)

27 posted on 09/01/2011 12:03:56 PM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: WilliamHouston

From the beginning 0bama has been race baiting. Remember the beer summit? The Cambridge cops acting stupidly? A white cop arresting a black man? oh the Huge Manatee!


28 posted on 09/01/2011 12:04:39 PM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Sounds like Andre really needs to get laid! Mebbe he should go by an ACORN HQ, ask for a “community orgasmizer” to—how do I say this politely: haul his ashes?


29 posted on 09/01/2011 12:04:45 PM PDT by tumblindice (It's the Donner-Reed show!)
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To: americanophile

Andrea you are an ASSHOLE.


30 posted on 09/01/2011 12:05:40 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: NoLibZone

He comes from Indiana.

Do a Google search about the 2011 Black Expo in Indianapolis. Then search for what happened at the 2010 Black Expo there. That’s another story that Dan Rather and the NY Times would never investigate.


31 posted on 09/01/2011 12:06:21 PM PDT by WilliamHouston
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To: RoosterRedux

How about ballast.


32 posted on 09/01/2011 12:06:58 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: americanophile

There is a word for this and they do it all the time and we need to call them out every time they commit this atrocity. It’s called “blood libel”.

It’s no laughing matter. It’s incidious and leads to bloodshed.


33 posted on 09/01/2011 12:07:08 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (http://www.durban3nyc.com/. Go there and learn what those who seek to destroy Israel are up to)
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To: WilliamHouston

Or let’s have a debate about the fact that 84% of the murders in Baton Rouge, LA are black on black.


34 posted on 09/01/2011 12:07:45 PM PDT by mta504nola (GeauxLSU)
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To: WilliamHouston

Spot on. Thanks for posting.


35 posted on 09/01/2011 12:09:38 PM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: EdReform
Ain't that the truth!

I think these people are going to be quite surprised when Americans start to fight back. We might be slow to anger, but they have mistakenly presumed that we're cowards.

What they fail to realize is that the gains they have made are, in very large part, due to the goodwill of Americans. Andre, Maxine, Eric, Obama et al are killing that goodwill daily. Soon it will be gone.

36 posted on 09/01/2011 12:14:20 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: mta504nola

Doesn’t matter.

Who gets stuck with the bill? Taxpayers. Who are they?

Thanks to MLK and LBJ, New Orleans, Detroit, and Birmingham have been destroyed, not to mention Memphis and countless other cities.

There are vast swathes of the South and Southwest which are literally uninhabitable. There has been a Sherman’s march through Michigan since George Romney pulled that stupid little stunt when he was governor.

I’m going to come right out and say it: in the 1960s, the “Greatest Generation” and the “Baby Boomers” in the Northern states were swept up in a mania, and they used their numerical majority in Congress to redefine the very nature in America.

Now, in the year 2011, the financial and cultural bill is finally coming due. We are gearing up for the grand finale of the world that they created back then. The fat lady is about to sing in 2012.

I’m only 30 years old. I’m a historian. I will be around for the next 50 years writing the history of what is about to transpire in the United States over the course of the next 20 years.


37 posted on 09/01/2011 12:15:08 PM PDT by WilliamHouston
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To: americanophile
Andre Carson (D-Hell) should apologize for his abuse of the English language. It’s not “hanging on a tree” it’s “hanging from a tree”

Andre, if you are going to insult us, at least do it properly!

38 posted on 09/01/2011 12:18:07 PM PDT by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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To: WilliamHouston

“Lets have a debate about the fact that 96 percent of the crime in Chicago is caused by “people of color” “

...

No,no,no. The racist police just ARREST more blacks.Blacks don’t commit any more crimes than whites.

(sarcasm)


39 posted on 09/01/2011 12:19:32 PM PDT by Mears
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To: TheCause

Either way, he’s hung


40 posted on 09/01/2011 12:20:15 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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To: americanophile

Talk about projection...
We’re seeing a LOT of black on white violence but almost zero white on black violence.

Her Freudian Slip is showing.


41 posted on 09/01/2011 12:24:34 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: TheCause

LOL ... “hanging from a tree.”

In the “Jim Crow era,” there were 3,500 lynchings of blacks, and something like 1,500 lynchings of whites. Lynching was usually a vigilante response to some kind of crime that had been committed.

That’s why whites were lynched too. It happened all the time. White people were shot all the time in the Wild West too. It was a different culture back then.

Now, just how many white people do you suppose have been murdered, raped, robbed, and assaulted by black people since 1965?

That’s a number I would really like to hear. I know that black people raped 35,000 white women in 2005 alone. How many white women do you suppose black people raped in the last decade in total?

That doesn’t even include the murders, the robberies, the burglaries, the aggravated assaults, the costs of moving to the suburbs, the costs of rebuilding entire cities to escape the black criminals, the costs of commuting long distances to avoid the clusterfuck that is the “inner city,” the combined criminal justice costs, the costs upon business, the downstream costs to taxpayers, etc.

Do you know what the craziest thing about it all is?

The craziest thing is that the taxpayers are crushed by the federal government in order to transfer their wealth ... yes, to the inner cities ... to the projects via Section 8 and TANF welfare and EBT cards and Medicaid and every other government program ... which encourages the very same class of people that commits the vast majority of our crime ... to multiply because they are being subsidized!


42 posted on 09/01/2011 12:27:39 PM PDT by WilliamHouston
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To: americanophile

The Congressional Muslim Staffers Association has been in existence since 2006, the year in which Keith Ellison was the first Muslim elected to Congress. Their website states that:

” Members often publicly speak about how Muslim Americans can pursue careers in Federal government, particularly in Congress, and how to be politically involved.”

Under the heading “Why Should Young Muslims Participate in Professional Internships?” “Opportunities to meet the two Muslim American Members of Congress, the Hon. Keith Ellison (MN) and Hon. ANDRE CARSON(IN)” is listed as third. The last bullet point on the list leaves no doubt that the CMSA is an Islamist organization:

http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/4635


43 posted on 09/01/2011 12:31:29 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: WilliamHouston

Testify my brother!


44 posted on 09/01/2011 12:34:30 PM PDT by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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To: WilliamHouston

In Kentucky, African-Americans are 7.8 percent of the population and 13.3 percent of poor people, but are responsible for 27 percent of homicide, 13 percent of rape, 44 percent of robbery, 28 percent of aggravated assault, and 19.3 percent of burglary.

In Missouri, African-Americans are 11.6 percent of the population and 20.4 percent of the poor, but are responsible for 60.7 percent of homicide, 43.7 percent of rape, 70.9 percent of robbery, 41.8 percent of aggravated assault, and 41.6 percent of burglary.

In Iowa, African-Americans are 2.9 percent of the population, but are responsible for 30.8 percent of the homicide, 7.5 percent of the rape, 50.2 percent of the robbery, 23 percent of the aggravated assault, and 17 percent of the burglary.

In Alabama, African-Americans are 26.2 percent of the population, but are responsible for 62 percent of homicide, 55 percent of rape, 77 percent of robbery, 59 percent of burglary, 55 percent of aggravated assault ... and 91.5 percent of rape

^^ In Alabama, that was 2010, last year.


45 posted on 09/01/2011 12:36:01 PM PDT by WilliamHouston
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To: WilliamHouston

In Tennessee, African-Americans are 16.7 percent of the population and 26.3 percent of the poor, but are responsible for 56.6 percent of homicide, 40.4 percent of rape, 64.4 percent of robbery, and 41.3 percent of aggravated assault.

In California, African-Americans are 5.9 percent of the population, but are responsible for 38 percent of robbery, 21.8 percent of rape, 23.8 percent of homicide, 20 percent of assault, 21.8 percent of burglary, 21.5 percent of theft, 19.7 percent of motor vehicle theft, 22.3 percent of forgery, 22.1 percent of kidnapping, and 17.5 percent of sex offenses.

Isn’t it strange that black people like Andre Carson portray themselves as the victims of violence? In every state in the United States, black people are far more likely to be the perpetrators of violence, and white people are more likely to be the victims and the taxpayers who pay for the costs of their misbehavior.

Eric “My People” Holder: would you like our “conversation about race” to continue?

We haven’t moved on yet to the black privilege that black people enjoy on the basis of their skin color in every single aspect of our society from sports to entertainment to the mass media to the universities to the federal government itself where you lord over us!


46 posted on 09/01/2011 12:42:58 PM PDT by WilliamHouston
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To: Lorianne; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; dixiechick2000
Andre Carson (D-7-IN) b. 1974 Indianapolis m. Mariama Shaheed-Carson; Muslim. Carson (59%) def. Marvin Scott (38%) .

Jeremiah A. Wright stripped of street lingo and elevated to the Federal government--much like Obama.


47 posted on 09/01/2011 12:44:30 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: americanophile

This man should be required to undergo a psych eval. He’s obviously deranged.


48 posted on 09/01/2011 1:02:14 PM PDT by trailboss800
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To: trailboss800
He’s obviously deranged


Yep. Proof once again that Liberalism IS a mental disorder.

49 posted on 09/01/2011 1:17:20 PM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: americanophile

The new CBC talking points.


50 posted on 09/01/2011 1:23:16 PM PDT by crosshairs (If Sharia Law becomes the law of the land, heads are gonna roll.)
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