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Perry fires back at pro-Bachmann super PAC
Politico ^ | September 1, 2011 | MAGGIE HABERMAN

Posted on 09/01/2011 2:12:25 PM PDT by AAABEST

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To: Servant of the Cross

OMG! Thanks for posting the link to that ad.

It has got to be one of the worst ads for this level of government (well, ANY level of government office) I’ve ever seen!

Surely Mitt’s secret funds to her could have purchased a better public relations and advertising team!


41 posted on 09/01/2011 3:10:18 PM PDT by casinva (If Michele Bachmann is trying to be Mitt Romney's VP choice... Go away MB and stop sticking us up!)
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To: Steel Wolf

Steel Wolf,

I’ve got a question for you and would like your insight.

Could Michele Bachmann pull out of the race at some point and still be on Mitt’s VP list or do you think she’ll need to stick it out longer than she could have otherwise?


42 posted on 09/01/2011 3:13:03 PM PDT by casinva (If Michele Bachmann is trying to be Mitt Romney's VP choice... Go away MB and stop sticking us up!)
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To: wolfcreek; cripplecreek; Tempest
Did you happen to see how many JOBS were created?

Good point. That document shows that 54,954 direct jobs were created at a cost of $7,455.52 per job, or a total of 190,360 direct and indirect jobs were created, at a cost to the state of $2,308.98 per job. Considering that the federal government crows about creating a few hundred job that cost the taxpayers over $100k per job, it looks like Texas has the right idea. If Perry had $800 billion to spend on job creation like Obama did, by this calculation, he could have created 107,303,045 direct jobs.

Also, did you see the return on investment? The state was getting back from a LOW of 27x the investment up to over 100x the investment in increased Gross State Product. This has got to be one of the most effective economic stimulus programs in history!

Thanks, cripplecreek. I never realized how effect the TEF program was at job creation. I'll be sure to post this information every time someone brings the subject up.

43 posted on 09/01/2011 3:16:07 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: casinva

I think orginally, some were thinking Bachman could be a good choice for VP but since the Iowa straw poll she has had numerous gaffes and is losing her star power rapidly. All the oxygen is almost gone from her campaign. I think she will continue to go downhill.


44 posted on 09/01/2011 3:16:07 PM PDT by tirednvirginia ( RICK'S CHICK AND PROUD OF IT!)
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To: casinva
Surely Mitt’s secret funds to her could have purchased a better public relations and advertising team!

So what you're saying is that the wife of Perry's communications director is raising funds for Michelle Bachmann?

Yeah St Rick is the smart one. LOL
45 posted on 09/01/2011 3:16:51 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: indylindy

I think Victor Davis Hanson is a Democrat unless he’s changed parties and I’ve missed it.


46 posted on 09/01/2011 3:21:33 PM PDT by FreedomForce (Perry 2012 | Perry/Palin 2016 | Palin 2020)
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To: casinva
Could Michele Bachmann pull out of the race at some point and still be on Mitt’s VP list or do you think she’ll need to stick it out longer than she could have otherwise?

If Mitt wins, he'll pick whoever he wants. They don't have to be currently serving or from any particular group, so long as they balance the ticket.

Mitt doesn't really need another governor, a moderate, a businessman, or someone who can raise cash. He's got all that himself. If he won the nomination, it would be by appealing to the center-right. All well and good, but there's plenty of people on the actual right who might sit it out, unless he has a strong conservative VP.

Anyone reading this probably thought about not voting for McCain until he picked Sarah Palin. That didn't win over everyone, but it changed a lot of minds. Mine included. Mitt knows he's in the exact same boat. He needs a partner who has 'it'. Popularity, to offset his blandness. A fighter, to offset his calm. A conservative, to offset his moderation.

If it's not Bachmann he chooses, he'll need someone exactly like her. The fact that she's behaving the way that she is makes me think that they've already come to an understanding.

It might not be, though. She may just be auditioning for the part, trying to show her use, in the event a Romney-like candidate got the top slot. Or it may just be a trial run for next time. No matter what, she's not going to be top of the ticket next year.

47 posted on 09/01/2011 3:22:42 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: CA Conservative

Yeah I see that it also claims jobs were created at HelioVolt but HelioVolt disagrees and says they won’t be creating the jobs. Seems to me that you’re playing Obama games with number (lying) just like Obama’s stimulus.

Why the lack of courage in noticing that?


48 posted on 09/01/2011 3:22:42 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: cripplecreek
Hey cripplecreek, Perry is no saint and his supporters never said that he was. It's your candidate that is flawless. I can tell you three or four flaws in Perry but I bet you can't name one of "Sarah!"s.

Perry is just the better more proven candidate than "Sarah!"

49 posted on 09/01/2011 3:27:01 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: FreedomForce

You must have missed it.


50 posted on 09/01/2011 3:29:32 PM PDT by dforest
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To: cripplecreek
Yeah I see that it also claims jobs were created at HelioVolt but HelioVolt disagrees and says they won’t be creating the jobs. Seems to me that you’re playing Obama games with number (lying) just like Obama’s stimulus.

Excuse me? I use the numbers from a document that YOU provided, and I am playing with numbers? You really are delusional, aren't you? You either don't believe the very document you provided (and if that is the case, why provide it in the first place?), or you just don't like the fact that it doesn't support the point you THOUGHT it would support. Maybe you should have read it first...

51 posted on 09/01/2011 3:29:46 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: casinva
Could Michele Bachmann pull out of the race at some point and still be on Mitt’s VP list or do you think she’ll need to stick it out longer than she could have otherwise?

Time means nothing to MB. She "raised" 23 foster kids, don't you know...and needed only 2 weeks to "raise" some of them.

52 posted on 09/01/2011 3:29:46 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: casinva

I think she will find that this is not a good tactic at all. She’s in over her head here.


53 posted on 09/01/2011 3:31:08 PM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: cripplecreek
I just looked at your homepage. Too bad. When this is all over maybe we can bury the hatchet. Custer is one of my all time favorites and dishonored by hollywood and politically correct historians. I plan on taking my kids to Little Bighorn next year.

But until then, Perry for President.

54 posted on 09/01/2011 3:31:37 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: normy; Tempest
Tempest and his crew jump Perry threads non stop dredging up misleading stories and out right lies trying to taint Perry in order to boost Palin.

Possibly granted, but this one does not lend itself to such posts sensibly, and I don't think they will do that. It would look hokey in this instance.

This just looks bad, bad, bad on Michele Bachmann, and I would think both Palin and Perry supporters should be MORE upset with Michele Bachmann's lies and deceptive ads in her quest to cozy up with Mitt Romney than they will use one of our own (Michele Bachmann) who is disgracing the word "conservative" to make a case against Rick Perry.

Let them use what they want to vet Rick Perry, but this isn't the right story to do that.

Michele Bachmann, one of our best known models of conservatism today, has now associated herself with lies and deceit. In that, Michele Bachmann has LOWERED the standards and reputation of our party. Now THAT deserves anger from both Palin and Perry supporters!

Tempest, I'm hoping you guys take the right route on this one! :)

55 posted on 09/01/2011 3:31:54 PM PDT by casinva (If Michele Bachmann is trying to be Mitt Romney's VP choice... Go away MB and stop sticking us up!)
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To: CA Conservative
Gov. Perry Announces TEF Investment in Solar Power Company

AUSTIN – Gov. Rick Perry today announced the state will invest $1 million through the Texas Enterprise Fund (TEF) in HelioVolt Corp. of Austin for the construction of a 125,000 square foot manufacturing facility and development space to test and produce the company’s thin-film solar power cells, which convert sunlight into electricity. The deal will create nearly 160 jobs and $62 million in capital investment.

HelioVolt Corp. puts off growth. Plant is ready but demand not there yet

After months of stealthy operations, solar cell maker HelioVolt Corp. has delayed by two years its job creation projections.
56 posted on 09/01/2011 3:34:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: casinva

I will refer you to posts 3,4,5,6 and 13 for starters.


57 posted on 09/01/2011 3:34:59 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: indylindy

indylindy,

If Michele Bachmann is susceptible to lying in her campaign ads, why would you expect she would live up to her word with what she has said about immigration, especially since she has no executive record to show what she really would do when push comes to shove and pressure keeps coming from all sides?

Yea, she can sit in her congressional seat and whine, complain, and vote and say she fought for this and fought for that, but now we see her in the midst of a real battle and can see what she does, and she is caving to lies just to get a VP choice position with Mitt Romney.

I am not dissing your desire for tough immigration laws, reform, deportation or anything here. I’m asking if you really can trust her now that we are seeing she is willing to lie and distort in a real life situation, campaigning.


58 posted on 09/01/2011 3:39:00 PM PDT by casinva (If Michele Bachmann is trying to be Mitt Romney's VP choice... Go away MB and stop sticking us up!)
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To: cripplecreek
After months of stealthy operations, solar cell maker HelioVolt Corp. has delayed by two years its job creation projections.

And??? You act like this one example that delays some of the 158 jobs to be created by this one grant somehow negates the effectiveness of the whole program. Hardly - you are talking about less than 3/10 of 1% of the jobs created through this program. And only some of the jobs are delayed - they currently have hired somewhere around 100 of the 158 positions they expected to hire.

Boy, you are really reaching here...

59 posted on 09/01/2011 3:43:42 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: casinva

None of them are worth a hoot. At least that is how they are discussed here. So what the heck difference does it make?

I trust her more than the others. How’s that? Plus, none of them own me. Can you say that?


60 posted on 09/01/2011 3:45:19 PM PDT by dforest
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