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Steve Forbes: I'm Leaning Toward Perry Endorsement
Newsmax ^ | Aug. 31, 2011 | Jim Meyers and Kathleen Walter

Posted on 09/01/2011 9:26:08 PM PDT by Clairity

Forbes magazine editor Steve Forbes says he "very impressed" with Texas Gov. Rick Perry and is leaning toward endorsing him for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.

"Rick Perry, the governor of Texas, is now the front-runner. He's had a good record even though liberals are now trying to trash it, along with perhaps some of his GOP opponents," Forbes, a two-time presidential candidate, tells Newsmax.

"He did some very good things in reforming their personal injury liability system, very very positive reforms. He encouraged energy production instead of states like California that discourage it, and refused to put in a state income tax. So in the great scheme of things that’s a pretty solid record to run on. So he is the front-runner."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
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Perry endorsements will keep coming.
1 posted on 09/01/2011 9:26:11 PM PDT by Clairity
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To: shield

Perry ping


2 posted on 09/01/2011 9:26:54 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Clairity
He's had a good record even though liberals are now trying to trash it, along with perhaps some of his GOP opponents," Forbes, a two-time presidential candidate, tells Newsmax

Or their supporters on FR.

3 posted on 09/01/2011 9:29:02 PM PDT by Carling (DeMint to Obama: I want to read the bill, not listen to talking points off a TelePrompter.)
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To: Clairity
Bwhahaha!!!

RINO’s unite!

Rudy Giuliani will be rolling up soon.

4 posted on 09/01/2011 9:30:49 PM PDT by Tempest (Google: Rick perry bi-national healthcare)
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To: Carling

And as their false accusations don’t have the desired effect, they become more and more shrill.


5 posted on 09/01/2011 9:31:28 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; RoosterRedux; jonrick46; deepbluesea; RockinRight; TexMom7; potlatch; ...
Perry Ping....

IF you'd rather NOT be pinged FReepmail me.

IF you'd like to be added FReepmail me. Thanks.

6 posted on 09/01/2011 9:31:49 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Carling

7 posted on 09/01/2011 9:31:56 PM PDT by Tempest (Google: Rick perry bi-national healthcare)
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To: Clairity

who gives a sh*t?


8 posted on 09/01/2011 9:31:56 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: max americana

Most intelligent people do care and most recognize that an endorsement by Forbes means that Forbes views Perry as a free enterprise candidate, who can and will turn the economy around.


9 posted on 09/01/2011 9:38:33 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Clairity

Well, what do you think of THIS? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2772433/posts


10 posted on 09/01/2011 9:41:15 PM PDT by sklar
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To: Clairity

Getting his bid in now.


11 posted on 09/01/2011 9:42:04 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The GOP elites have already decided for you, obligatory lip service notwithstanding.)
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To: Clairity

Here’s a quarter Steve, call someone who gives a damn . . .


12 posted on 09/01/2011 9:42:43 PM PDT by tomkat (we're at 1775 + 1860 in one massive CF)
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To: Clairity

Good for Steve Forbes.

He is a smart man and an honest one.


13 posted on 09/01/2011 9:42:56 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Clairity

Big, big mistake, Teve Torbes.


14 posted on 09/01/2011 9:43:12 PM PDT by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: Clairity

Expect Perry to support this bill soon..

AB 499 Passes CA Senate Permits Consent for STD Vaccinations by 12 year olds
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2772433/posts


15 posted on 09/01/2011 9:44:00 PM PDT by Fred ('Just cus I said it, don't mean I meant it'....Obamaism)
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To: Clairity

Endorsements mean nothing at this point. Let’s see right after the primaries who is left standing. Most freepers ‘endorsed’ Trump for prez during the BC fiasco and where are they now? Save energy and endorsements for next year..


16 posted on 09/01/2011 9:44:24 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: Tempest; All

When they’re in their harem or unable to walk the streets maybe, just maybe, they’ll get it. Not until then. They’re just too damn smart.


17 posted on 09/01/2011 9:48:53 PM PDT by TwoSwords (Has anyone seen my suspension of disbelief pills?)
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To: Clairity
I'm still leaning ever so slightly towards Bachmann, but I do like Perry.

If he does well in the upcoming debates, it will likely win me over permanently to his side.

18 posted on 09/01/2011 9:49:54 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Sheesh. Go away and stay away Newt.)
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To: shield

Flat tax time!


19 posted on 09/01/2011 9:51:34 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Forbes would be a phenomenal Secretary of the Treasury or Fed Chairman.


20 posted on 09/01/2011 9:53:52 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Sheesh. Go away and stay away Newt.)
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To: Clairity

Boy and how, the shrillness is fast approaching glass breaking level. What a spectacle.


21 posted on 09/01/2011 10:00:29 PM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: EternalVigilance

Major issues Forbes has supported include free trade, health savings accounts, and allowing people to opt out 75% of Social Security payroll taxes into Personal Retirement Accounts (PRAs). He supports traditional Republican Party policies such as downsizing government agencies to balance the budget, tough crime laws and support for the death penalty, and school vouchers, opposition to gun control and most government regulation of the environment, as well as drug legalization and same-sex marriage.

In his 2000 campaign, Forbes professed his support for social conservatism along with his supply-side economics. Despite holding opposite positions in 1996, for the 2000 campaign, Forbes announced he was adamantly opposed to abortion and supported prayer in public schools. The previous year Forbes had issued a statement saying he would no longer donate money to Princeton University due to its hiring of philosopher Peter Singer, who views personhood as being limited to ‘sentient’ beings and therefore considers some disabled people and all infants to lack this status. Steve Forbes was one of the signers of the Statement of Principles of Project for the New American Century (PNAC) on June 3, 1997.

....On March 28, 2007, Forbes joined Rudolph Giuliani’s campaign for the 2008 presidential election, serving as a National Co-Chair and Senior Policy Advisor.[17] Later in the 2008 presidential campaign, Forbes served as John McCain’s Economic Adviser on Taxes, Energy and the Budget during McCain’s bid for the 2008 Presidential election.[18]

In December 2009, Forbes, in a nationwide mailer for the National Right To Work Committee, opposed union membership for police officers and firefighters, terming their representatives, “union czars,” and requested that mailer recipients contact their congressional representatives with regard to HR 413.[citation needed] In 2010 Forbes endorsed Peter Schiff.

On January 7, 2010 Forbes announced his endorsement of Dr. Rand Paul, Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate in the Commonwealth of Kentucky.[19]

On January 28, 2010 he formally endorsed Marco Rubio, Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate in the State of Florida.[20]


22 posted on 09/01/2011 10:03:35 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: comebacknewt

Forbes is an asset and his endorsement is big.

This puts a face on economic issues and a big rebuff to Romney.


23 posted on 09/01/2011 10:06:34 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Clairity

Perry favors amnesty. Why are we backing him again?

Just found it out today. Is this guy actually Rico Suave, and not Rick Perry?

I don’t want another McCain this time. We’ve done that once. It was unpleasant.


24 posted on 09/01/2011 10:07:09 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: Clairity

Both Forbes and Perry are for open borders, amnesty, and cheap labor, so this isn’t a surprise.


25 posted on 09/01/2011 10:07:51 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore
Perry's is for open borders?

What does that mean to you?

Waving people into Texas and on to points north?

You're flat wrong!

Perry wants the border secured.

Perry in helicopter with Greta (TX-MX border is over 1250 miles)

2007: [excerpt] “If you show up illegally, without your card or you’re here as a criminal element, I’m for throwing the book at those folks, but the issue of people who want to legally, thoughtfully and appropriately come to America to work and help us build our economy — we should quickly come up with a program and an identification card to do that.” [end excerpt] Source

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"......When Obama continued to refuse even five minutes for the Governor, Perry took matters into this own hands and was standing on the tarmac at Austin’s airport when President Obama stepped off of Air Force One. Obama looked confused, Perry looked determined. Obama still ignored the pleas for help.

Perry again took matters into his own hands, and established an elite unit of Texas Rangers to bolster border security..." Source

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CW: We've been dealt a hand here in Texas (and if you've read my threads you know much of this) where we have a federal government that has not answered the call to protect the 1250 border miles Texas shares with Mexico. Gov. Perry does not believe a fence is the answer to illegals crossing the U.S.-Mexican border. He believes conservative ascendancy will. So we do the best with what we have ($100M/yr of our own state money put up to help secure an international border). We have a lot of crime to combat and pay for because of the illegal activity (drugs, human smuggling and trafficking) generated by an unsecured international border.

We can't refuse to educate or give health care, as everyone in every state is faced with the same situation, but since Perry is a border gov, he's held responsible for illegal aliens, where everyone vents their frustration about the problem using him as a whipping boy (and to make political points and take pot shots). Perry's asked for drones (went to Israel and asked how they protect Gaza Strip), has asked for 3000 people here on the TX border (crickets). Perry has set up an elite Texas Ranger unit to work on the border. Then we find out the Feds have been "running guns" across the border and we've had people killed because of that.

The Texas Dream Act was set up because we have a lot of kids here from the way the feds have allowed this to snowball. Students who have been in Texas for 3 years and graduated from a Texas high school get instate tuition (no benefits -- they pay their way) The entire Texas Senate voted for this in 2001. (The Texas Dream Act does NOT have all the hidden goodies the U.S. Congress "Dream Act" was trying to get into law.)

Perry has said: “If you show up illegally, without your card or you’re here as a criminal element, I’m for throwing the book at those folks, but the issue of people who want to legally, thoughtfully and appropriately come to America to work and help us build our economy — we should quickly come up with a program and an identification card to do that.”

The Texas legislature meets every 2 years for 140 days and the governor is allowed to call Special Sessions. He called a Special Session because he had put "sanctuary cities" on the agenda and the legislature dropped the ball -- but the Senate and then the House left again -- giving Gov. Perry nothing to sign (Texas legislators also have elections they'll be facing and no doubt didn't want a vote on this shadowing their re-election bids).

In this just ended session, after about 3 tries to slip it into a bill, a law that required people to show their birth certificate to get a drivers license got through [The amendment, added by Rep. Jim Pitts, R-Waxahachie, to the education funding bill legislators needed to balance the state budget had originally been included in Senate Bill 9, the so-called "sanctuary cities" bill that failed in the special session. It also had appeared in an omnibus homeland security bill by Sen. Tommy Williams, R-The Woodlands, that died in the regular session......By putting it into law the state potentially undermines an ongoing lawsuit that argues DPS doesn't have authority to check legal status.]. However, the ink on that law was barely dry before it was overturned by a judge – as usual.

In this last Texas Legislative session Gov. Perry signed the Texas Photo ID Voting Law -- it took 6 years to get it through -- Only 6 states have a PHOTO Voter ID requirement.

Texas has a long history with Mexico and being "Mexican" does not mean that you aren't an American, or a Texan. A lot of Texans have Mexican heritage or are married to someone who does. Perry doesn't lead with his chin. He's a thoughtful man.

Rick Perry is as ready to fix this as anyone and understands it probably better than anyone running -- or commenting anonymously on a chat site.

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The 2001 TEXAS Dream Act was passed by 100% of the Texas Senate:

"It’s important to point out that there is a huge difference in the TEXAS Dream Act and the The Dream Act that was pushed in Congress and failed. The Dream Act in Congress was full of all kinds of goodies other than allowing children of illegals to receive in state tuition. The Texas Dream Act was focused only on that. I happen to agree with The Texas Dream Act, and so did everyone in the Senate in Texas. It passed with ZERO “no” votes. Add to that, it has been proven to be successful.

These are a few things you need to know about the [2001] Texas Dream Act. The child has to have lived in Texas the three years leading up to high school graduation. These students are given no special treatment in getting into Texas colleges and universities. They must get in on their own merit. They are paying the tuition (with or without financial aid). It’s estimated that these students make up about 1% of those entering college.

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Most of us agree that border control MUST be dealt with first. The problem with all other efforts on this issue in the past is that the borders were not sealed. If there is anyone who we can trust to do that it is Gov. Perry (if he decides to run for President). He knows what goes on down at the border. He has gone there many times. He knows what needs to be done. There is no doubt in my mind that if he were President, he would seal our borders. But Perry also understands Hispanic outreach." Source

26 posted on 09/01/2011 10:12:08 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: RinaseaofDs

Get your facts straight about Rick Perry.

The Palinstinians are worse than the left-wing media when it comes to making up crap, throwing it against the wall, and hoping it sticks.


27 posted on 09/01/2011 10:13:29 PM PDT by rjeffries
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To: Clairity
Steve Forbes: I'm Leaning Toward Perry Endorsement

So is Wardaddy if Palin keeps snoozing and Bachmann slides more and much like Steve Forbes it will influence absolutely no one.

28 posted on 09/01/2011 10:14:07 PM PDT by wardaddy (I will vote for whomever my dog tells me to)
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To: EternalVigilance

Wonder what Governor Quid Pro Quo promised Stevie.


29 posted on 09/01/2011 10:15:09 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: rjeffries

I don’t see anyone here calling him a drag queen.
He’s not, is he?


30 posted on 09/01/2011 10:17:19 PM PDT by tumblindice (It's the Donner-Reed show!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Campaign talking points. Blah, blah, blah.


31 posted on 09/01/2011 10:18:06 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: tumblindice

They are on a full frontal press trying to destroy his record. They are pulling the same tricks the media used on Palin, that Palin failed to defend. Make up crap and attack.

Thank God Rick Perry entered this race when he did!!


32 posted on 09/01/2011 10:20:11 PM PDT by rjeffries
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The election is already won. Just like it was in ‘06-07 for zero, why no serious R was put to run.

And for those who haven’t come around to Perry: all the work the Tea Party did turning America back red congressionally is about to get the Executive red wave, particularly with the DC bureaucracy.

This is the last opportunity we’ll have to crush the commies and the blue areas they control, get behind it.


33 posted on 09/01/2011 10:23:29 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish?)
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To: rjeffries

So ... what was he wearing today?


34 posted on 09/01/2011 10:24:37 PM PDT by tumblindice (It's the Donner-Reed show!)
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To: Clairity

So soon they(Forbes) forgets Nov. 2010...

The TpCaucus is for Michele Bachmann NOT the Testoserones(men)..
even Sarah Palin is for Michele Bachmann..

Nov 2010 was a rehearsal for the main event in Nov. 2012..
Perry and Romney are speaking what the rubes want to hear..

BAchmann means what she says..


35 posted on 09/01/2011 10:24:57 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: rjeffries

Gov. Rick Perry has thrown his hat into the ring as a presidential candidate. This move presents a unique opportunity for him to show political imagination and creative solutions on a national scale. As governor, he embraced and supported the Texas Dream Act, which is currently in force in our state. The Texas Dream Act permits qualified undocumented immigrants to pay low in-state tuition. In contrast to the proposed federal Dream Act, the state version does not provide a path to citizenship. It does, however, importantly protect these young people from being barred from a much needed education, so long as they have lived in our state for three years and have a high school diploma or GED degree. As Perry has stated accurately, “To punish these young Texans for their parents’ actions is not what America has always been about.”

We need legislation that represents a new, better future. We do not need legislation that sees the only solution as more stringent enforcement, without relief or discretion. To take such a path to addressing the problem of immigration lacks imagination because it fails to account for people who, if given a chance, would work and contribute (lawfully) to our economy and the nation’s future. Such a solution would be good not just for immigrants but for our whole society and economy.

http://www.chron.com/opinion/outlook/article/Perry-in-position-to-lead-on-immigration-policy-2150075.php

Houston Chronicle, August 31, 2011

Let me translate all that for you:

“Just the tip, just for a second, just to see how it feels.”

Texas DREAM Act? Really?

I’m surprised he didn’t pass TEXACARE, or some Romnoid equivalent.

Wall. It. Off.

It’s a border guys, not a velvet rope.

They aren’t going to vote for us people, they are going to vote for the idiots giving out the free tuition and the ten pound blocks of cheese - the bags of groceries.

Liberals are evil, but they at least adhere to their principles. We’re supposed to be principled, but we lack the courage to admit we harbor any. If any should stand between us and getting elected, we’ll just move them over until we get elected, and then we’ll PROMISE to put them back.

It’s how we got McCain.

Next, please.


36 posted on 09/01/2011 10:26:22 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: RinaseaofDs

So you support punishing people whose parents committ crimes? Yes. That’s American isn’t it?


37 posted on 09/01/2011 10:29:14 PM PDT by rjeffries
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To: rjeffries

And Palin herself says that Perry is a true conservative and gave him a strong endorsement in 2010...by their own definition she is a RINO...they talk in circles and contradict themselves.


38 posted on 09/01/2011 10:35:32 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: txhurl

Don’t forget the Supreme Court...


39 posted on 09/01/2011 10:38:06 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: RinaseaofDs

Liberals aren’t evil. Its not like Obama got into office and set onto his master-plan to screw things up.

Liberals are misguided in their philosophy; as such its fundamentally wrong. That’s WHY things are screwed up.

The ‘Enlighted Liberal’ has historically been the first casualty of “reformation”. One needs to look no farther than Cambodia for evidence of that.

NEVER in the history of the world has the intellectual elite survived a political purging; they’re the first to be executed after succesful revolting by the ‘hoi polloi’

Quite frankly, it is my daily prayer that the American electorate is not so stupid to repeat its mistake of 2008. The United States (as a republic) CAN survive the chief usurper of the Oval Office, but what the United States of America can NOT survive: an electorate SO stupid to actually give a politician such as Obama - along with the baggage known and unknown - the reigns of government.


40 posted on 09/01/2011 10:41:00 PM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: Clairity

I too am thinking of a Rick Perry endorsement. Sarah Palin is MIA


41 posted on 09/01/2011 10:47:39 PM PDT by dennisw (nzt - works better if you're already smart)
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To: rjeffries

I do.

They can take themselves and their children back to Mexico.

I’m not going to raise these criminal’s kids. Is that what you’re proposing here?

Taking university spots away from other LAW ABIDING families. Families such as the legal resident aliens and green card holders that actually had respect for the law in the first place.

SEE! This is what I’m talking about. THE GOP DESERVES TO LOSE BECAUSE IT CAN’T GRASP BASIC ADDITION AND SUBTRACTION.

If you agree to raise YET SOME OTHER CRIMINAL’S baby, along with the orphan children of the native US idiots that commit felonies and go to jail already, then you are at heart a statist, and you should just get it over with and embrace the GM Volt and everything it represents.

Every buck you need from me to compensate the poor, innocent offspring of the criminals is a dollar I can’t use to send my own offspring to college. Savvy?

And every criminal, and their offspring, I send home ends up freeing up job opportunities, jail cells, medicare dollars, university slots, parking places, and campsite availabilities to other law abiding people of every color of the rainbow.

All of us, over here, that understand such things - we are one big beautiful rainbow of people that understand that, well, we’d just love to help all those pilgrims out, but we’re too busy following all the idiotic laws imposed upon us and our businesses. After all, if I’m busy following all of these laws, how am I going to find time to help all these other pilgrims WHO ARE BUSY NOT FOLLOWING THE LAW, AND THEN HOPPING IN TO BED TO PORK THE MISSUS AND HAVE MORE BABIES TO CELEBRATE!!!!!

See why it’s hard to hear that a vote against the stupid will ultimately result in a vote for the evil?

I’m not a Palinista, because I don’t think she can win.

But I damn sure don’t want a guy that can’t grasp the obvious, just because he happens to be from Texas and for some strange reason never got around to TEXACARE, or something equally Romnoid in nature.

Sorry to rant, but WHAT’S IT GOING TO TAKE FOR THE GOP TO FINALLY GET THE ECONOMICS OF IMMIGRATION, AND WHY YOU CAN’T FIX ANYTHING UNTIL YOU ENFORCE THE FREAKING BORDERS?!?!


42 posted on 09/01/2011 10:51:26 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: Clairity

I’ve always respected Steve Forbes and would be thankful if we could have someone like him handling our country’s finances instead of the goons we have in there now.


43 posted on 09/01/2011 10:58:02 PM PDT by casinva (If Michele Bachmann is trying to be Mitt Romney's VP choice... Go away MB and stop sticking us up!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Flat tax time!”

Amen to that (and Steve Forbes would be great in a major financial position). SO many pols keep touting the “fair tax” - Huckabee and Boortz are huge proponents. But Allen West explained the difference between that and a flat tax well. The fair tax, or consumption tax, could easily be pushed by BHO and Progressives to become a Value Added Tax (VAT) which is breaking Europe, in ADDITION to our federal income tax (rather than in place of)!

West said that while the Fair Tax is a great end goal, we need a Flat Tax as a bridge to it - because the only way to have a Fair Tax and not break the backs of most people would require doing away with ALL other taxes - federal income tax, capital gains tax, all of it. Doing that will require a repeal of the 16th Amendment, a process which takes some significant time. So meanwhile, institute a Flat Tax around, say 13%. A “Fair Tax” should NEVER be passed until all other federal taxes (primarily income tax) are repealed.

Go Flat Tax!


44 posted on 09/01/2011 11:02:21 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Don’t forget our Armed Services, who have been trashed and literally murdered by the ...


45 posted on 09/01/2011 11:02:28 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish?)
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To: raygun

“The United States (as a republic) CAN survive the chief usurper of the Oval Office, but what the United States of America can NOT survive: an electorate SO stupid to actually give a politician such as Obama - along with the baggage known and unknown - the reigns of government.”

Done, right? Didn’t we already do that?

Or are you saying that if we are dumb enough to DO IT YET AGAIN, then we deserve to die?

I almost agree.

Clinton gave us Welfare Reform. Nixon gave us the EPA. Romney gave us Obamacare, and McCain begat Obama. Bush FAILED on immigration (big time).

This is the Tea Party’s beef, and I buy it in total. Just because there is an R by the name doesn’t mean they grasp the basic economics of something as simple to get as national sovereignty? How many adults are really left in the room when you have to explain it to the GOP as if they are four years old.

In modern parlance, the ‘enlightened liberal’ is now basically the same as a modern moderate, yes?

The Reagan Democrat, the Obama Independent (the Godmother of one of my kids voted for Bush, W, then voted against McCain for Obama - works high up at Russell Investments).

It’s hard for me to work with the adjective ‘enlightened’ when most people think the words ‘separation of church and state’ actually appear in the Constitution.

Many are opposed to abortion on moral grounds, and not because it was an in-your-face violation of the 9th and 10th amendments by SCOTUS in another one of their culturally scarring blunders.

If Jefferson were around, he’d have wondered what the hell we are doing not wrecking what’s now in place and starting over.

You are right, however, liberals aren’t evil. Liberals simply adhere to a dogma that is at its base deeply immoral, which is to say, “What’s mine is mine, and what’s yours is mine as well if you have more than I do.”

Couple that with a tax code carefully crafted to foment such a culture. It’s not a stretch to pity the sinner here but hate the people who KNOW its wrong and are working to make things worse.


46 posted on 09/01/2011 11:07:37 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All

Steve Forbes on Washington Journal 8/25 taking calls -

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/SteveFor

It’s pretty good. I liked SF when he ran for POTUS back in the day (he wasn’t good looking enough for the shallow sheople voters). A VERY smart and classy guy (I catch him every Sat. morning on e Forbes on Fox business).


47 posted on 09/01/2011 11:14:06 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: RinaseaofDs; PGalt
It almost seems as if you're agreeing (yet disagreeing) with me; your method is the most polite I've seen in a while.
Or are you saying that if we are dumb enough to DO IT YET AGAIN, then we deserve to die?
NOPE. This country can NOT survive an electorate SO stupid to give reigns of power to a candidate such as Obama. The fact is that IT DID do so.

I'm not in any disagreement concerning the other issues you referenced. I'd recommend that you check out my tag-line.

After you regroup we can talk again.

P.S. to PGalt: his political economy comes up once again...

48 posted on 09/01/2011 11:24:06 PM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: raygun

We’re in complete agreement. I thought that’s what you said.

It makes my head hurt.

I’m not sure what’s worse: either they don’t understand it, or they do understand it but think they can undermine the nation and it’ll somehow heal itself or something.

I’m fairly sure its the latter and not the former. None of them are stupid people, even when you run into someone that really tests that assumption (Pelosi, perhaps, or Lee from Texas).

I just wanted to clarify your remarks to ensure I understood them, and I’m pleased to see I did.


49 posted on 09/01/2011 11:29:56 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: raygun

“Liberals aren’t evil. Its not like Obama got into office and set onto his master-plan to screw things up.”

Oh, really???

a) Liberals in the traditional sense aren’t evil. But in this day and time, those who are called Liberals are now, in reality, Progressives and Marxists or worse. And they ARE evil;

b) BHO is beyond both Liberal AND Progressive. He always had a mission to take this country down - when you study his past, his background and all those with whom he’s surrounded himself throughout his life, it’s understandable and obvious in his words and deeds.


50 posted on 09/01/2011 11:40:23 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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