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'Muslims live in fear in America'(Barf alert)
presstv.ir ^ | Sept 2, 2011 | Not Listed

Posted on 09/02/2011 6:15:51 AM PDT by bayouranger

The report said multilingual undercover NYPD police officers known as the 'rakers' would secretly monitor the Muslims living in New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut. They would detect the places where Muslims socialize, pray and eat.

According to the report, the architect of the program, called the Demographics Unit, was a veteran CIA officer who also oversees the operations.

Press TV interviewed Abdul Alim Musa, Imam of Masjid al-Islam in Washington, to discuss the issue.

Press TV: It seems there is a very carefully orchestrated campaign against Muslims in America. The NYPD insisted that there is not special unit to spy on Muslims in collaboration with the CIA, which is prohibited from spying inside the US. Why should they single out Muslim communities for surveillance and infiltration? What do you think is behind this campaign?

Musa: In the name of God. This infiltration and spying on Muslims go back several decades but as far as African Americans are concerned, there has been a series of activities for over a hundred years. The first job of the FBI was to spy on Marcus Garvey from 1917 to 1922.

(Excerpt) Read more at presstv.ir ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; jihad; terrorism; washingtondc
This is not new to us, this is part of historical fact of America. But now that there is a global war on Islam, and there has been a global war on Islam; therefore, it would be automatic for the FBI, the CIA all the security administrations, Homeland Security, to not only spy on mosques, not only infiltrate mosques, but also to turn Imams, the prayer leaders, into informers for the government.

The Muslims of America actually live in a state of fear; fear of privacy in their own homes, fear of going to businesses, fear of even going to prayer or Eid celebrations. The Muslims feel very oppressed and spied on here in America.

Let me give you an example for Washington DC. It is not only New York, it is not only Ervine in California, it is not only in San Francisco and Auckland, it is right here in Washington DC. There was a memo last year that was given to us which said that the police department itself would monitor the Muslims especially during Ramadan. Now suppose that government monitored Christians during Easter and during Christmas celebration. Suppose that the government spied on Jews during Rosh Hashanah or during Yom Kippur.

This is a gross violation of the rights of the Muslims and we believe there is a contrived effort by the government to spread an air of suspicion and distrust amongst the Muslims about each other.

Press TV: You said in your remarks that there is a campaign against Islam as a whole and Islam worldwide. The question would be who would benefit from bashing Muslims and portraying them, in the case of America, as un-American and as a threat to the security of the country?

Musa: If you go to the root of it, if you investigate 9/11, when investigate the Pentagon, when you investigate most of these cases, building 7 falling down, a forty seven-story building, you would see that someone else besides Muslims had to do these catastrophic events, but that is a pretext for spying on the Muslims. Who would benefit? The first one would be the Zionist Israelis. The Zionist Israelis seem to be Mossad, seems to be at the very root and bottom of this. Then it springs out into Homeland Security, CIA and FBI. If you go to the root of it, the ones that feel most threatened by an Islamic revival are the Zionists, the occupiers of Palestine. Then that is associated with the US government where it feels that any progress that we make is a threat to their stability.

1 posted on 09/02/2011 6:15:56 AM PDT by bayouranger
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To: bayouranger

‘Muslims live in fear in America’

They are safer then Christians in muslim countries.


2 posted on 09/02/2011 6:17:55 AM PDT by edcoil (The will to win is important, but the will to prepare is vital. -- Joe Paterno)
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To: bayouranger

Lol.........whatever.


3 posted on 09/02/2011 6:18:22 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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To: bayouranger

This is coming from a Washington DC Iman.


4 posted on 09/02/2011 6:18:28 AM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: bayouranger

Gee, I wonder why? Just because they run around the world blowing up innocent bystanders, behead private citizens, stone to death their own daughters...what’s not to love?


5 posted on 09/02/2011 6:19:33 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are dumber than soup.)
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To: bayouranger

Correction to the title...

Muslims learn that victimhood status in America confers immunity from criticism.


6 posted on 09/02/2011 6:19:50 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: edcoil

Presstv? Is this Iranian?


7 posted on 09/02/2011 6:20:01 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: edcoil

They are safer than most Muslims in Muslim countries.


8 posted on 09/02/2011 6:20:51 AM PDT by BUGSWOL (No one was ever burned at the stake for saying the Earth was flat)
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To: bayouranger

If I was attending a religious facility run by men who sympathize with or justify violence against America, and was surrounded by people who joyfully celebrate or whisper approval of “martyr” attacks or are cowed into silence by fears for themselves-

maybe I’d look over my shoulder, too


9 posted on 09/02/2011 6:22:22 AM PDT by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common - Voltaire)
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To: bayouranger

It would be a better world if this were actually true.


10 posted on 09/02/2011 6:22:47 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: edcoil

Completely agree. If muslims live within the laws of the US, or indeed any other western democracy, they have nothing to fear.


11 posted on 09/02/2011 6:26:15 AM PDT by Caulkhead
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To: expat1000

Yes, it is.
And they SHOULD live in fear. Every damn one of them. But they don’t. More’s the pity.


12 posted on 09/02/2011 6:27:09 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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To: edcoil

Monday, January 17, 2011

Islam In A Nutshell

There is within the west many ideological and political obstacles in acknowledging what we are really up against in the so-called “War on Terror,” which is, ‘in reality’ the “War with the Nation of Islam” and its ‘Ideological Theology’. Like Nazism, it is a war for our very survival.

By de Andréa

In the following, are a few things you need to know about Islam’s Jihadists War Against the West. ...

http://thebottomlineat.blogspot.com/2011/01/islam-in-nutshell.html


13 posted on 09/02/2011 6:27:25 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: bayouranger

I could only wish there was a campaign against Islam in this country and worldwide. The experience of Muslims here is nothing compared to the horror experienced by Christians in Muslim countries. Maybe we should treat them how they treat guests in their respective lands, blow up their Mosques full of innocent women and children, behead them, kill any converts they make here, and burn their businesses. We also need to issue a death sentence against anybody who is Muslim who says things we don’t want to hear.


14 posted on 09/02/2011 6:27:25 AM PDT by dog breath
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To: bayouranger
Maybe they should analyze at some deep intellectual level why that is. . . and change. .
15 posted on 09/02/2011 6:27:34 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: bayouranger

The muzzies should go somewhere else where they won’t have to “live in fear”. I think America would be able to survive without their “diversity”.


16 posted on 09/02/2011 6:27:57 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Coming November 2012 - Bedtime For Obozo.)
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To: bayouranger

If America is so frightful, they are free to leave. It’s not like America treats its citizens and residents like Saudis treat their female citizens - they don’t need anyone’s permission to find a new home that makes them feel more comfortable.


17 posted on 09/02/2011 6:29:35 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: bayouranger

Duh. Of course muslims would prefer to socialize, pray and eat out of sight of the society they plan one day to dominate.


18 posted on 09/02/2011 6:32:07 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: bayouranger

Just part of the international “Islamohpobia” campaign aimed at deflecting legitimate criticism, and also an effort to get the UN and sovereign nations to pass anti-Islamophobia resolutions and legislation.


19 posted on 09/02/2011 6:32:57 AM PDT by Will88
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To: bayouranger

He should do his followers a favor and advise them to leave the U.S. I know I don’t want them here and I know I’m not alone. They have no intention of assimilating. They need to GO.


20 posted on 09/02/2011 6:34:48 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: bayouranger

Hope they get the point and go home to a third world islamist hell hole.


21 posted on 09/02/2011 6:35:45 AM PDT by x_plus_one (Obama's legacy: Trashing the North American continent into a third world hell hole.)
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To: bayouranger

A basic human right is that you should not have to live with fear of those around you. If you are fearful, you can leave. In the United States, we hold to that basic human right and take in refugees from around the world.

By the same standards and beliefs, if someone feels fearful in the United States, they should leave and go to another location where they will be comfortable.


22 posted on 09/02/2011 6:36:45 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: bayouranger

THE GTFO!

LLS


23 posted on 09/02/2011 6:37:33 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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To: bayouranger

I wonder how they would feel if, for every Christian that was murdered in a muslim nation, a muslim would be shot here? And then we passed out candy and danced in the streets?


24 posted on 09/02/2011 6:37:37 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: bayouranger

THEN GTFO!

LLS


25 posted on 09/02/2011 6:37:52 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Certified Al Palin Hobbit Terrorist)
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To: bayouranger
i knew iranians and arabs in los angeles in the 90s.

they'd already learned to pump the american welfare.

the iranians usually were professionals at least or wealthy;

they'd secreted their wealth into jewels and out of iran in their women's underwear.

they hated the mullahs, but they embraced the american equivalent—the democrat party.

26 posted on 09/02/2011 6:40:22 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: bayouranger

Easy fix.....move back to your shiite hole country.


27 posted on 09/02/2011 6:41:10 AM PDT by sniper63 (If Obama pats himself on the back anymore, his shoulder will dislocate.....)
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To: bayouranger

Moslems live in fear in America? Poor whiners. I say we sponsor a one-way ticket for each of them to fly to Saudi Arabia and live in that blesshed land


28 posted on 09/02/2011 6:42:36 AM PDT by Cronos (John 6:61-64: Jesus rebukes those who think the Eucharist is just a symbol/metaphor, repeats: Jn8:15)
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To: bayouranger
Why should they single out Muslim communities for surveillance and infiltration?

911 --

29 posted on 09/02/2011 6:43:01 AM PDT by Cronos (John 6:61-64: Jesus rebukes those who think the Eucharist is just a symbol/metaphor, repeats: Jn8:15)
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To: MestaMachine

no, they should NOT live in Fear. I support the Mozzies rights to live without fear. Free one-way tickets to Saudiarabia for each of them!!


30 posted on 09/02/2011 6:44:22 AM PDT by Cronos (John 6:61-64: Jesus rebukes those who think the Eucharist is just a symbol/metaphor, repeats: Jn8:15)
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To: bayouranger

Good ‘ole Iranian propaganda at its best.

Pravda, Middle East edition.


31 posted on 09/02/2011 6:45:20 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: bayouranger
'Muslims live in fear in America'

At the beginning of W.W.II a major reason for relocating American citizens of Japanese origin was for their protection.

In those days there were damn few (if any) "intelleftuals" and media employees screaming at us that the attacks on America were mostly our fault, that we are no good.

People suspected of aiding the Imperial Japanese were in fact held in strict conditions. Most were not.

I suggest that this arrangement for Muslims who feel in danger should be made available for the duration. I am compassionate to a fault.

Americans of Japanese ancestry did enlist to fight for America.

I absolutely believe that American Muslims living in America will not join the battle against the Islamists -- even though tens of millions of their Muslim brothers and sisters in Turkey DO oppose political Islam and Sharia law. Go figure.

RE: not surprising that "intelleftuals" appeared in FR at least seven years ago. There's fewer than 200 google hits, I think it deserves better than that.

32 posted on 09/02/2011 6:47:59 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: bayouranger

They probably should being they look like Mexicans and the government is doing everything they can to start an internal illegal Mexican American war.


33 posted on 09/02/2011 6:48:38 AM PDT by jetson
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To: Cronos

Oh. Well, see. I think saudi arabia and every other muslim country should live in fear along with their brethren here and anywhere else in the world.


34 posted on 09/02/2011 6:53:31 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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To: bayouranger
I would live in fear too, if I were in a country searching for ways to murder hordes of people,destroy it's infrastructure and hoping to eventually bring them all under the rule of the cruel unjust law that I supposedly fled from back home.
35 posted on 09/02/2011 6:58:55 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Yes Palin CAN whup the Obamanable snowman!)
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To: edcoil

“Muslims live in fear”.

Good - get the hell out, then.


36 posted on 09/02/2011 6:59:21 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: edcoil
"...effort by the government to spread an air of suspicion and distrust amongst the Muslims about each other.'

The only suspicion and distrust would be generated within the terrorist cells already in place, as it would hinder them from actively recruiting from within the Muslim community. The only fear being generated, is the fear that they will be detected before carrying out any operations against America.

Crocodile tears.

37 posted on 09/02/2011 7:00:10 AM PDT by semaj
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To: bayouranger

Oh, really??? Pushing to build a victory mosque within shouting distance at Ground Zero evidences that “fear,” doesn’t it.

If you’re “fearful,” go live somewhere else. Frankly, since you are aligned with our mortal enemies by your cult, it’s preferable you DO live with some fear of repercussions for your actions. Current conditions in the UK are the result of your being... not fearful.

More Americans are learning what your koranic doctrine teaches, and it runs counter to the principles upon which this country was founded.

REAL Americans:

*Reject your sharia BS.
*Reject the idea of special treatment for muslims in public schools
*Will counter your whining and fighting at amusement park rides under the pretense of “you HAVE to wear the scarf” in an attempt to foment unrest (yes, we know WTH you’re up to)
*Expect you to assimilate, and NO, you may NOT have your enclaves, a la the UK.

Those are just for starters. If you can’t live with them, GTFO.


38 posted on 09/02/2011 7:04:17 AM PDT by ScottinVA (With "successes" like the Libya adventure, who needs failure?)
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To: expat1000

Yes, that’s why I posted the whole article.

This iman is on Iranian TV spreading his tripe & Americans must know what is being said behind their backs by “moderate” moslems living in DC.


39 posted on 09/02/2011 7:05:07 AM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: bayouranger
The Muslims feel very oppressed and spied on here in America.

Their very nature is to suspect for most within Islam have been abused in one form or another for much of thier childhood and adult life in their home countries. Few escape it. So ti's natural for them to be looking over their shoulder and suspect. They are so with each other...hugely so.

But then they come onto the soil of a country they have determined to conquer from within, and permote their agenda which is in full swing....and want somehow for that to go without notice.

Their's a reason why they call it the "Mind of Islam".....most are pretty messed up.

40 posted on 09/02/2011 7:06:18 AM PDT by caww
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To: bayouranger

They need to apply for political asylum in Iran or maybe Somalia.


41 posted on 09/02/2011 7:10:49 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: ilovesarah2012

Muslims will never leave once they have come into a community....never...there purpose is to conquer from within and fight using our laws and courts to sustain them where they are.....as well our politicians and governments....and it’s working.

All countries they have infilitrated, will eventually be overtaken by Muslims...it’s how they work. And war will always be the end result.

So no...they will never leave the United States....they are already entrenched here.


42 posted on 09/02/2011 7:11:11 AM PDT by caww
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To: bayouranger

The deportation of all non-citizen Muslims should have started on 9/12/01, and long since been completed. All citizen Muslims should have been under surveillance since then. Mecca and Medina should be glassed over, radioactive unapproachable zones in the desert. The border wall should have been completed.

So many “shoulda’s...


43 posted on 09/02/2011 7:11:23 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: bayouranger

OH, I reeeeeeaaaaalllly hope so!!
Those who love to cause fear and terror should FEEL it every waking moment! Our ENEMIES SHOULD FEAR US!
This made my weekend!
I try to make a Muslim uncomfortable EVERY day.


44 posted on 09/02/2011 7:31:21 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

“Muslims live in fear”.

Some Americans live in fear of Muslims/islam in America.


45 posted on 09/02/2011 7:36:39 AM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: bayouranger
Some responses:
46 posted on 09/02/2011 8:23:48 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: expat1000

From PressTV:

“Press TV takes revolutionary steps as the first Iranian international news network, broadcasting in English on a round-the-clock basis.”

“Our global Tehran-based headquarters is staffed with outstanding Iranian and foreign media professionals.”

Press TV is actually pretty good at original reporting. You must always remember that all news is filtered through an anti-American, anti-sunni and pro-Palestinian viewpoint.


47 posted on 09/02/2011 9:18:31 AM PDT by gandalftb (11th MEU TRAP force)
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To: bayouranger

Of what? Bacon jokes?


48 posted on 09/02/2011 9:25:53 AM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: bayouranger

Then the muslims should flee America while they can. We are not stopping them.


49 posted on 09/02/2011 10:13:35 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: bayouranger; All
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Every “moderate” Muslim is a potential terrorist. The belief in Islam is like a tank of gasoline. It looks innocuous, until it meets the fire. For a “moderate” Muslim to become a murderous jihadist, all it takes is a spark of faith.

Ali Sini

50 posted on 09/02/2011 10:22:04 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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