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Dems want Obama's job speech to contrast with GOP (throw compromise and civility out the window)
Yahoo ^ | 9/01/11 | JIM KUHNHENN

Posted on 09/02/2011 8:17:56 AM PDT by Libloather

Dems want Obama's job speech to contrast with GOP
By JIM KUHNHENN
AP – 15 hrs ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — The tiff over the timing of President Barack Obama's jobs speech to Congress offers little hope that Republicans and the White House will now find common ground on how to reduce the nation's painfully high unemployment. In fact, some Democrats say it's time Obama stopped trying so hard to negotiate.

On matters large and small, Obama has yielded to House Speaker John Boehner in a string of concessions that have unnerved Democrats and emboldened Republicans. A chorus of Democratic voices is now demanding that the president abandon his attempts at being a compromiser and instead lay out an ideological vision that distinguishes him from Republicans and becomes a template for his re-election.

**SNIP**

Obama must create a clear contrast between what he wants and what the Republicans want, Simon Rosenberg, president of the liberal-leaning think tank NDN, wrote this week. "If the president is to win the election next year, he will have to first win the economic debate with the Republicans, something, to date, he has not done."

Democratic strategist James Carville was even sharper, decrying the spectacle of the president being forced to change the day of his address to a joint session of Congress after Boehner took issue with Obama's initial request.

"The last thing that the White House needed was to appear to cave in to the speaker, and that's what happened," he said Thursday on ABC.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dems; gop; jobs; jobspackage; jointsession; speech; stimulus2
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The kids are still miffed that they were told to go sit in the corner.
1 posted on 09/02/2011 8:18:00 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

...does our media even live in the same galaxy as the rest of us?


2 posted on 09/02/2011 8:20:00 AM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: Libloather
They draw close to the hour when they will choose violence as their primary political tool.

They have nothing else left.

3 posted on 09/02/2011 8:20:46 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: Libloather

Why don’t you socialist-loving propagandists get your collective $hit together... one week you’re trying to sell the pantload that dims are “running away” from the skid mark, the next you’re stating they support more of his mindless Marxist crapola policies. Pathetic.


4 posted on 09/02/2011 8:25:07 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: Libloather
The kids are still miffed that they were told to go sit in the corner.

Nah, more like they are miffed that they were told that they can't
continue to rub feces all over wherever, and whenever, they want.

Just heard on Dennis Miller from some pundit that BHO sent out
whining fundraising letters seconds after Boehner declined to
accede to the BHO's "request".

5 posted on 09/02/2011 8:29:22 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Common Sense 101

The Democrat Party needs to force POTUS Obama to resign today!!! Why??? If you have to ask that question you are either insane, on drugs, drinking the liberal Kool-Aid, or....a dead man walking!!! Boycott the Obama speech farce next Thursday evening!!!


6 posted on 09/02/2011 8:30:38 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: Libloather
Would the left have Obama send in the Secret Service to seize the House of Representatives for Maximum Leader's speech? Maybe they would and just dispense with this messy democracy stuff.
7 posted on 09/02/2011 8:31:36 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

I’ll have little respect for any Republican Senator or Congressman who applauds during the speech.


8 posted on 09/02/2011 8:32:52 AM PDT by Brownie63
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To: Tzimisce

Stop trying so hard to negotiate? I guess when you are a Marxist, big footing the oppositions big night is negotiating. To everyone else though the most transparent thing about this admin is it’s absolute hostility to the opposition the country, and to the citizens.


9 posted on 09/02/2011 8:33:48 AM PDT by 1malumprohibitum
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To: Libloather
It's time for the House to drop a real load on this communists rat King Obama. Cut off funding for everything they can and immediately. Destroy everything he has created they can. Search for anything that impeachment can be started. Otherwise America will be finished by the end of 2012.
10 posted on 09/02/2011 8:34:12 AM PDT by Logical me
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“Dems want Obama’s job speech to contrast with GOP”

Hussein has been saying the same old stuff since his first campaign trail speeches. The only thing new he will have to add is that he wants more people to be employed on the taxpayers dime in new federal programs. Socialism hasn’t worked well since he became LIAR in chief. It seems like it shouldn’t be hard to fight that battle with statistics that it will not work any better in the future.


11 posted on 09/02/2011 8:34:53 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Libloather
This is all good news. Look the left is out of patience with Obama. The government is out of money and Obama is out of time. Obama has to have the economy back on its feet by next August or it doesn't matter. And even if he had billions to spend it probably wouldn't make a difference in only 11 months. And he doesn't have the money. He can't raise taxes because it will tank the economy completely. He can't borrow any more without causing another debt ceiling crisis.

Obama is at 40% approval. And he can't pander to any one group without getting another group mad at him. Given time he get out of it, but there is no time remaining. Given a cooperative congress he could hide the issue, but the GOP, while not fighting has hard as I might like, are at least forcing him to confront the debt, taxes, and unemployment.
12 posted on 09/02/2011 8:37:55 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Brownie63

Hard to Judge that since we haven’t heard the speech yet, But on general principle’s and what has gone on in his sp[eech’s of the past I think we can safely say that republicans will have nothing to cheer about, and should remain seated and quiet.

I hope they all shout a chorus of YOU LIE, at the first and every lie he tells.


13 posted on 09/02/2011 8:39:10 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Libloather

Kick their asses, step on their necks. No compromise and no “bipartisanship.” Republicans need to learn from Obama in 2009, the days of “we won,” and when they get back on top, LEAD. Don’t compromise, don’t wishy-wash, don’t “reach across the aisle.” Knock the Rats out of the way and get things done. Don’t be afraid to own your principles if they’re the correct ones (which conservative ones are).

}:-)4


14 posted on 09/02/2011 8:43:15 AM PDT by Moose4 ("Oderint dum metuant" -- "Let them hate, as long as they fear." (Lucius Accius, c. 130 BC))
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Stop trying so hard to negotiate? I guess when you are a Marxist, big footing the oppositions big night is negotiating. To everyone else though the most transparent thing about this admin is it’s absolute hostility to the opposition the country, and to the citizens.

Obama is the man who told Republicans "I won."

Since that time, I can't think of anything the president has compromised on.

Obama changed his speech night because no one would show up. It's not because he's compromising.
15 posted on 09/02/2011 8:46:39 AM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: Libloather

I bet this speech is why we had to wait until after obama’s vacation to hear about his jobs plan. He could have given the speech at anytime. He didn’t have to wait until after his vacation. But he thought he was too smart by half because he thought he would take out too birds with one stones with this speech. He wanted to give the speech during the Republican debate because he wanted to take attention away from the debate, draw away as many of it’s possible viewers as he could.

Secondly, obama wants to have Republicans setting there in front of him, unable to answer back while he stands there lording over them and trashes the crap out of them on national TV, like he did the supreme court justices. With the democrats all jumping up clapping at every poison arrow he slings.


16 posted on 09/02/2011 8:51:03 AM PDT by GloriaJane (Pro Choice = Pro Death - Pro Life = Pro LIFE!)
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To: Libloather

Can’t Obama just go on TV and call it “Funemployment”? It was the Democrats favorite phrase just a couple of years ago. /sarc

Funemployment = 324,000 hits on Google.


17 posted on 09/02/2011 8:54:12 AM PDT by radioone ("2012 can't come soon enough")
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To: Libloather
You mean the contrast between the House GOP, who have a serious jobs plan, and 0 and the Dems, who merely want to keep doing what has completely failed for the last 3 years while screaming hysterically how it is everyone Elsey fault they failed?
18 posted on 09/02/2011 8:57:39 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: ClearCase_guy
They draw close to the hour when they will choose violence as their primary political tool. They have nothing else left.

Yep - I'm not positioned to take advantage of Gold/Silver, etc, so i have been investing in lead - some with full metal jacket...

19 posted on 09/02/2011 8:57:56 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Venturer

I hope something along those lines happens. Obama just caught it on the snoot, it’s time to follow with an uppercut, not a Kleenex.


20 posted on 09/02/2011 9:44:58 AM PDT by tarotsailor
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