Skip to comments.FEC Allows Presidential Campaign for Foreign-Born Man
Posted on 09/03/2011 9:46:40 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen
The Federal Election Commission ruled Friday that a Guyana-born American citizen could file papers and raise money to run for president of the United States. But the agency also told the prospective candidate, Abdul Hassan, that his campaign may not receive federal matching funds because he was not born in America.
The FECs unanimous vote allows Hassan who born in the South American country in 1974 to be a candidate, solicit funds and requires him to file disclosure reports for a presidential bid. However, the agencys decision stopped short of addressing the constitutional issue of whether someone born outside the United States can be president.
(Excerpt) Read more at rollcall.com ...
Kind of like a legalized, Nigerian Bank Account scam.
So, wouldn't be the first time....
I was really hopping this was satire.
Fine, great, let's make an absurdity out of everything.
Nope. The states don't do it either. There is no legal procedure on the books anywhere for any candidate to prove they meet the Constitutional requirements. All they have to do is "swear" to it - or have someone else swear to it.
And what's sad is that even knowing he's ineligible, citizens cannot file suit to stop him because we don't have standing. We have to rely upon government officials to interpret the Constitution and make a decision.
The heck with the Constitution! Let anyone run for President...again! s/
From the article:
“But FEC commissioners said repeatedly that their decision to define Hassan as a candidate had nothing to do with his birth country. They said that current federal election law allows for someone to be a candidate, regardless of whether they can legally hold the office they seek and that the FEC is not charged with deciding presidential criteria including ones natural-born citizenship.
This does not mean that he can go and say look the FEC has said that I am a candidate, give me money, Im official, said Republican Commissioner Donald McGahn. That is not what we do here; we dont certify you as a candidate. Thats what the states do.
During Thursdays meeting, commissioners said they had trepidation about voting for Hassans candidacy because of how it might be perceived.
By saying that it is okay it does give the impression that we dont see a problem, said Democratic Commissioner Steven Walther. I think that we really need to be cognizant of how this could be misconstrued.
WHAT A SHAM!!!! Doesn’t the FEC know THAT”S ILLEGAL????
The FEC just passed the buck.
Maybe this will actually put some laws on the books.
I can hope.
ENOUGH is ENOUGH!
Time to get some good strong rope, find small tall tress, and teach these faceless bureaucrats that the CONSTITUTION means what it says!
NO FOREIGN BORN person may run - period - end - STOP.
a sign of hope for Harrison Bounell!
REASON #4 Why I Am A Birther ... it appears that it is NOBODY’S JOB to ensure a candidate meets the Constitutional Requirements of the Office. That is not acceptable.
It's an interesting question, because the Founders didn't see the modern campaign in their time. So it doesn't say that a non eligible person can't declare they are running, it just says who is eligible to actually hold the office
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of PresidentThere have been plenty of satirical candidacies (first I recall was Pat Paulsen from The Smothers Brothers comedy show). The article quotes the FEC as saying they have no authority; any freeper lawyers actually look at the FEC's authorizing legislation to see if legal authority to screen out ineligibles exists?
This nut could not win, but if in any circumstance like this an ineligible person did win, I'd hope the Congress would refuse to certify, and the Chief Justice would refuse to swear him in. It's time for a national certifying body to prescreen using agreed upon standards.
Technically, it’s not illegal. That’s the problem.
Kind of sounds like it’s being run by a Mexican Union.
“Not my yob man”
I doubt it. The Secretaries of State will pass the buck too.
Who is really surprised any more.
The left has declared the Constitution a dead letter anyways.
I retain hope.
Perhaps when Obama is out of office and the issue is not quite as emotionally charged, at least one state can formalize something.
This and the FEC is a farce.
Conceptually the laws of gravity and thermodynamics should be ignored as well since it’s not anyones job to enforce either.
Guess it’s not my job to tell that dickweed to quit smoking while putting gas in his car.
Let’s all leave the policeing of common sense to someone else. God forbid we cause a PC fuss by pointing out the obvious!
What a charmer!!!!
Only thing missing is the booking number & the date & jurisdiction.
However, the agencys decision stopped short of addressing the ***constitutional issue*** of whether someone born outside the United States can be president.
What country is this?it isn’t America.
Apparently a good many members of the FEC have NOT read the constitution.
But, then, in the Age of Obama that’s nothing new.
Everyone here knew it would happen ... and is called precedence. The gates are open for anyone to run for President of the U.S. Everyone with a brain knows zer0 is in the office illegally. Precedence established.
This is completely wrong. He’s not eligible to be president so any funds he would be given would be solicited fraudulently.
What is wrong with these people?
“There have been plenty of satirical candidacies...”
Sure, but there is a big chasm between satire, or even publicity seeking, and fraud.
I’m sure Pat Paulson was eligible to serve as President.
I have no problem with people running for office, even this man, maybe he should consider running for mayor of his town or something.
But the FEC has just endorsed fraud and basically said: hey if it’s fraud that’s up to someone else to determine.
Don’t those commissioners take some sort of oath to uphold the law?
Bing!!! In light of this recent decision and the accompanying statements by the Commissioners, could it be that Obama did not want to push the question? While ballot access might not be the purview of the FEC, they would have to apply a definition of "Natural Born Citizen" in deciding if Obama was eligible to receive the funds. Hmmmmmmmm
I would like to see the background and actual wording of this ‘law’. It is preposterous that a Federal bureacrcy can have authoity to allow/permit a person to act to seek something which the person cannot have legally. Of course I realize these are people doing their thing.
Conventional state-run media.......crickets........
You trickster! I see what you did there....
And they did it on a Friday before a three-day holiday in hopes the news would sink without a trace.
This is an issue that no one in government will take any responsibility for. Here the FEC says eligiblity is not part of their charter. The states want the feds to take charge of it. Our federal representatives refuse to acknowledge a problem The courts rule that the cases brought before them are either not ripe or so ripe they dare not touch them.
Did the “commissioners” take an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution? If so, they’ve broken it!
Not sure what your game here is. The Constitution says no such thing.
Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of U.S. Constitution as adopted 17 Sep 1787:
"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."
Sven, now that you are here, you have never explained to us how Barry the usurper and illegal alien is able to use a Connecticut recycled Social Security Card/Number?
The case Judge Lamberth classified as: “Not your lucky day,” hmmm!!!
That’s Obummer’s drunken uncle Omar de’Illigitamae.
The question is do they have the authority to make the determination, and if they don’t, that needs to change. If they have the authority and aren’t using it, get them out and get someone in who will. But to talk of stringing them up, as some have (post 15) is not the right answer. Make sure they have the authority, and make sure they use it.
Who pays the salaries of these Richard Craniums?
I think I jumped the gun. I had to step back and ask myself: “Well self, just what IS the FEC supposed to do?” I found that I could not articulate an answer.
Upon invetigatying, I think I overreacted a bit.
From Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Election_Commission )
Although the Commission's name implies broad authority over U.S. elections, in fact its role is limited to the administration of federal campaign finance laws. It enforces limitations and prohibitions on contributions and expenditures, investigates and prosecutes violations (investigations are typically initiated by complaints from other candidates, parties, “watchdog groups,” and the public), audits a limited number of campaigns and organizations for compliance, and administers the presidential campaign fund, which provides public funds to candidates for president and nominating conventions.
From the FEC website ( http://www.fec.gov/ans/answers.shtml )
What does the FEC do?
The Federal Election Commission (FEC) is an independent regulatory agency established in 1975 to administer and enforce the Federal Election Campaign Act (FECA). That statute limits the sources and amounts of the contributions used to finance federal elections, requires public disclosure of campaign finance information and—in tandem with the Primary Matching Payment Act and the Presidential Election Campaign Fund Act—provides for the public funding of Presidential elections. For more information on the FEC’s role in regulating federal elections, see the brochure “The FEC and the Federal Campaign Finance Law.”
Please note that the rules governing elections for state or local offices and procedures for getting on the ballot for an election are outside of the purview of the FEC. You will want to contact the Secretary of State or appropriate election office in your state for more information. For a guide to state offices, please see our Combined Federal/State Disclosure and Election Directory.
How do I get my name on the ballot?
Contact the Secretary of State or appropriate election office in your state for more information. For a guide to state offices, please see our Combined Federal/State Disclosure and Election Directory or visit our Compliance Map. You may also want to consult our list of ballot deadlines for Congressional candidates.
So, I still think we have a failure at the state level to establish a legal basis of eligibility verification. But, I'm now inclined to think that the FEC is not and probably should not be a part of it. As far as fraud issues should an inelligible candidate solicit monies, I'd need to think of that a bit.
Thoughts on post #45?
I think I can guess his campaign theme. I have enough money to pay off the national debt of the US but it is being held in a bank account somewhere in Nigeria but I am unable to access it. With your help we can liberate it but I need some money to bribe some corrupt officials there.
Another muslim? Already have one in the whitehouse now, we don’t need another to even begin to run for it.
That sounds like exactly what happened in 2008 except we found out there is no mechanism to keep an ineligible candidate from assuming the office, especially when they have the support (or at least not the opposition) of both major parties and the mainstream media. So it looks like we're going to go through this every election now.