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When Rick Perry Praised HillaryCare (1993)
The Atlantic ^ | Conor Friedersdorf

Posted on 09/03/2011 4:15:57 PM PDT by Tempest

So what does a complete review of Perry's record reveal? As it turns out, he sent a letter during his tenure as Texas Agricultural Commissioner that praised Hillary Clinton's 1993 health care reform efforts. "I think your efforts in trying to reform the nation's health care system are most commendable," he wrote. "I would like to request that the task force give particular consideration to the needs of the nation's farmers... Rural populations have a high proportion of uninsured people, rising health care costs, and often experience lack of services." He concluded by noting, "your efforts are worthy, and I hope you will remember this constituency as the task force progresses. Please do not hesitate to contact me if I can be of any assistance."

Dan Amira at New York magazine dismisses the story and mocks the Daily Caller for publishing it. "He didn't even say anything about the substance of Clinton's health-care reform plan," Amira writes, "just that it was 'commendable' to try to reform the system in some way, which is hardly controversial."

I disagree.

Clinton's efforts were widely criticized by Republicans at the time, and the substance of her reforms obviously constituted a substantial federal intervention into health care, the very thing Perry now claims is obviously unconstitutional and ruinous to liberty. (And yes, Clinton's plan did call for both an employer mandate to provide health care and an individual mandate to be covered.)

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: perry; perry4hillarycare; perrycare; ricardo; rino; rinofreeamerica; rinoperry; rinorick; rinos4hillarycare; romneycare; sellout
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To: bushwon
how in the world could a conservative EVER have supported Nationaol Healthcare in any way???

A few pleasantries at the beginning of a letter on behalf of the citizens he represented constitutes Perry's "support of National Healthcare"? You cannot be serious.

This line of attach was silly the first time it was posted, and it is no less silly today.

51 posted on 09/03/2011 4:48:22 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Sheesh. Go away and stay away Newt.)
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To: Tempest

It was well known that the Klintons had a plan for socialized medicine. So Perry’s defenders either have a short memory, are too young to remember or just as with every other part of Perry’s liberal record, they just don’t care.


52 posted on 09/03/2011 4:48:30 PM PDT by South40 (Perry: There is a path to citizenship for ILLEGAL ALIENS who have served THEIR country)
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To: comebacknewt
d'oh

attach = attack

53 posted on 09/03/2011 4:48:56 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Sheesh. Go away and stay away Newt.)
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To: Tempest

I will not support this man.


54 posted on 09/03/2011 4:49:14 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Jean S
Perry is not 'my own' Perry never left the Democrat party.

You know the old saying:

You can take the Rick Perry out of the trailer park, but you can't take the trailer park out of Rick Perry.

55 posted on 09/03/2011 4:51:22 PM PDT by Tempest (Rick Perry is a solid conservative, if you consider Jello to be solid.)
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To: Tempest
People in DC were making decisions that were going to effect his constituents whether he liked it or not. Now, rather than sending Hillary a nasty letter telling her she's a misguided socialist, he politely asked her consider his people when decisions were made.

What makes me crazy about you Perry anti-fanboys is you will not acknowledge the very real possibility that your favorite candidate would have acted in pretty much the same way.

56 posted on 09/03/2011 4:52:31 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: television is just wrong
I will not support this man.

Same here and anybody who doesn't like it can take it up with God because at my age I'm starting to worry about how to explain voting for the lesser evil.
57 posted on 09/03/2011 4:53:27 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: Tempest

Perry is not my own. I want no part of Juan McCain II.


58 posted on 09/03/2011 4:53:27 PM PDT by South40 (Perry: There is a path to citizenship for ILLEGAL ALIENS who have served THEIR country)
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To: cripplecreek

Exactly!


59 posted on 09/03/2011 4:54:31 PM PDT by rintense (Polls are for strippers and cross country skiing. ~ Sarah Palin, 9.3.11)
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To: cripplecreek

do not stand for it!


60 posted on 09/03/2011 4:56:22 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: comebacknewt

Sorry I read the letter as more than a few pleasantries...


61 posted on 09/03/2011 4:56:22 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: Tempest

I don’t know about the Perrybots, but the zerobamabots are happy with your work


62 posted on 09/03/2011 4:56:49 PM PDT by Chief901 (Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend)
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To: Tempest

Perry salutes his “Der Komissar”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Guvo7gUdUnE


63 posted on 09/03/2011 4:59:18 PM PDT by ROTB (Sans Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia when we revolt.)
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To: volunbeer
There is no candidate including Obama with a more extensive record in this campaign than Perry. Nobody. He has to find a letter from 1993?

Believe me, this is nothing compared to what we're going to see about Palin if she happens to enter the race, especially if it looks as if she's winning. The liberals will use her past statements to make her look like Karl Marx in the eyes of conservatives who are suckers for that kind of thing.

64 posted on 09/03/2011 4:59:40 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
What makes me crazy about you Perry anti-fanboys is you will not acknowledge the very real possibility that your favorite candidate would have acted in pretty much the same way.

Some of them are clearly desperate.

No source is too left wing for them to cite.

No allegation is too absurd for them to try to run with.

Sad to see any legitimate GOP candidate be treated this way by fellow conservatives. I can understand liberals doing it, but to see us try to eat our own with half-truths and innuendos is extremely disappointing.

65 posted on 09/03/2011 5:00:33 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Sheesh. Go away and stay away Newt.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
What makes me crazy about you Perry anti-fanboys is you will not acknowledge the very real possibility that your favorite candidate would have acted in pretty much the same way.

Perhaps you can enlighten me. I am unaware of another Republican governor who endorsed pro-abortion candidate Rudy Giuliani for president.

And I am unaware if another candidate who supports instate tuition for ILLEGAL aliens.

And I am unaware of another candidate who wants to give citizenship to ILLEGAL aliens who, as Ricardo put it, "have served 'their' country".

And I am unaware of any other candidate who signed an EO that would cause families to tell the government that their 9-year-old daughter who is NOT sexually active doesn't want or need an unproven vaccination.

I am unaware of any other candidate who "would have acted in pretty much the same way". So who, other than Rick Perry has done any of these things?

66 posted on 09/03/2011 5:01:51 PM PDT by South40 (Perry: There is a path to citizenship for ILLEGAL ALIENS who have served THEIR country)
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To: rintense

I’ll no longer be a party to the destruction of the country under any party label.

Wildly off topic but Holy crap, Tigers went into the bottom of the 9th trailing by two and 2 run homer tied it followed by a walkoff home run.


67 posted on 09/03/2011 5:02:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: Tempest

What’s wrong with trailer parks? If your boy, Obama, wins again (that’s who you are helping BTW)...we’ll all be living in one (if we’re lucky).


68 posted on 09/03/2011 5:03:16 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Tempest

blah blah blah what kind of bot are you?

He was doing his job as Texas Agriculture Commissioner.

Period, end of story.


69 posted on 09/03/2011 5:03:24 PM PDT by TexMom7
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To: Tex-Con-Man; South40; Tempest
I’ll bet his constituents were glad he was looking out for them. After all, that’s why they voted him into office.

This says a lot about Texans. Apparently they want a "nanny" looking out for them.

I wonder when Texas became the "Pansy - nanny state"?

70 posted on 09/03/2011 5:03:39 PM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: onyx
He should have just called himself, "The Ricker" and been done with it.
71 posted on 09/03/2011 5:04:25 PM PDT by ROTB (Sans Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia when we revolt.)
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To: Sudetenland

You know, I am not a Perry hater, nor am I in a “Palin cultish haze”. I want to know about his past record—especially since he is marketing himself as a bonafide conservative. I don’t like the information in this article.

Oh, you were posting some rather snippy remarks on Palin threads. For a noob, you come off pretty rude, and I am wondering if you have some alternative agenda.


72 posted on 09/03/2011 5:05:27 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: RoosterRedux; Tempest

In April 1993 I knew HillaryCare for what it was.

Will you vote for me as President because I must be a lot smarter than Perry?


73 posted on 09/03/2011 5:07:54 PM PDT by donna (This is what happens when America is no longer a Christian nation.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I’ve seen that video.

It’s Rick Perry as a youth causing trouble

He can be seen here holding the guitar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_HQ0DEv7Sg


74 posted on 09/03/2011 5:08:03 PM PDT by Tempest (Rick Perry is a solid conservative, if you consider Jello to be solid.)
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To: Sudetenland
Quote Sudetenland "What's the matter, can't find anything new to try to smear Perry with. This has already been posted and laughed at.

You Perry haters are really pathetic and your desperation is apparent"

LMAO You are soooooooo correct!!!

First Poll Officially Shows a Real Republican Candidate

( Perry ) Beating Obama

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2773202/posts

75 posted on 09/03/2011 5:09:19 PM PDT by TexMom7
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To: cripplecreek

ahhh so this is the infamous letter. Thanks for posting it you’ll get some Perrybots panties all worked up over it.


76 posted on 09/03/2011 5:12:04 PM PDT by Tempest (Rick Perry is a solid conservative, if you consider Jello to be solid.)
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To: cripplecreek
I’ll no longer be a party to the destruction of the country under any party label.

This country is under attack from the top. We are under attack by the elected leader of our country (however much he cheated to attain such position).

Yet you think that you do this country a favor by attacking those who would attack this enemy of our country?

I can understand a patriot wanting to see the best champion emerge...but I cannot imagine anyone trying to destroy those in competition for such championship.

This is not a sports championship...this is an existential battle for our country and, indeed, for Western civilization.

An attack on our own is a service on behalf of our enemy, Obama.

77 posted on 09/03/2011 5:14:46 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Sudetenland

You may laugh at it but I’m sure not.

It appears Perry doesn’t know anything until he knows something. The rest of us all knew what Hillary was up to but Perry didn’t.


78 posted on 09/03/2011 5:14:46 PM PDT by beandog
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To: Tempest

Is it a Gibson guitar?


79 posted on 09/03/2011 5:15:56 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: bushwon
Sorry I read the letter as more than a few pleasantries....

That is your prerogative, but how do you reconcile it with the fact that Perry strongly opposed HillaryCare once the actual plan was revealed and he has consistently opposed government attempts to take over healthcare in the 18 years that have followed since he wrote the letter cited in this hit piece?

80 posted on 09/03/2011 5:16:17 PM PDT by comebacknewt (Sheesh. Go away and stay away Newt.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Trust me, you are nowhere as intimidating as my maker.


81 posted on 09/03/2011 5:16:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: raybbr
This says a lot about Texans. Apparently they want a "nanny" looking out for them.

I wonder when Texas became the "Pansy - nanny state"?

Great point. I have never wanted government to "look out" for me. That's a characteristic of liberal politics and, combined with the Gardasil fiasco shed light on who and what Rick Perry is about.

82 posted on 09/03/2011 5:17:26 PM PDT by South40 (Perry: There is a path to citizenship for ILLEGAL ALIENS who have served THEIR country)
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To: bushwon

He was doing his job as Texas Agriculture Commissioner.

He was not praising HillaryCare - THE TITLE IS A LIE

because HillaryCare did not exist YET.

He was trying to make sure the task force kept in mind the farmers and ranchers of America. That was his job.

He will not only do his job as President but will do it well.

And he CAN beat Obama!!!!!!!!

He’s the first Republican to beat Obama in the Polls.


83 posted on 09/03/2011 5:18:44 PM PDT by TexMom7
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To: Tempest
Geeze...I started that video but it is all about gay boys. Where did you discover that stuff?

I am beginning to wonder if your hatred of Perry isn't some kind of gay vindictiveness thang.

Let it go boys...there'll be other straight men you can hate.

84 posted on 09/03/2011 5:20:56 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: cripplecreek

I saw that!!! The Tigers are really surprising me this year!


85 posted on 09/03/2011 5:21:13 PM PDT by rintense (Polls are for strippers and cross country skiing. ~ Sarah Palin, 9.3.11)
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To: RoosterRedux

Since ricardo is using it, it’s probably a vihuela.


86 posted on 09/03/2011 5:21:20 PM PDT by Tempest (Rick Perry is a solid conservative, if you consider Jello to be solid.)
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To: RoosterRedux; cripplecreek
An attack on our own is a service on behalf of our enemy, Obama.

Quite frankly any attack from our "own" is nothing compared to what Obama and his people are going to do. We've already seen it. In 2008. He even had lawyers threatening the media.

We ain't seen nothun' yet. Obama isn't going quietly or easily.

87 posted on 09/03/2011 5:21:37 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: cripplecreek

My maker (to whom I am completely devoted) is the same Person. So I guess we are brothers of a sort?


88 posted on 09/03/2011 5:22:44 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: TexMom7

Don’t waste your time with the Perry haters, they can’t even spell let alone think.


89 posted on 09/03/2011 5:22:48 PM PDT by coaltrain (Obama's a Harvard lawyer like Elvis was a Black Belt)
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To: South40

the hypocritical denial is the worst part it means that you totally lose the mantle of principals or moral high ground.


90 posted on 09/03/2011 5:23:28 PM PDT by Tempest (Rick Perry is a solid conservative, if you consider Jello to be solid.)
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To: Tempest
They will lie to your face because they worship false idols.

Did I stumble into the religion forum?

91 posted on 09/03/2011 5:24:40 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Tempest
Perry was a Dem in 1988. He's been a Republican for over 21 years now. Reagan was a Democrat until 1962 and 18 years later he was the GOP nominee. Perry changed parties when he ran for Texas Agriculture Commissioner.

As Texas Agriculture Commissioner Perry wrote, on April 6, 1993, asking Hillary to keep the challenges to rural communities, farmers and ranchers in mind as the task force developed ideas on healthcare reform.

That was just two months after Clinton took office, 6 months before Hillary's healthcare congressional testimony and 8 months before a bill was introduced.

He was doing the professional duty of the office to which he was elected. It was not advocacy or praise for what eventually came out of the task force or the legislation in congress.

92 posted on 09/03/2011 5:25:07 PM PDT by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Tempest

You know, maybe the 20th time someone posts this, the result will be different than the other 19 times. It’s good to have hope.


93 posted on 09/03/2011 5:25:34 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Tex-Con-Man
And just where do you think that money came from...
Given what we know about our debt, your grand kids.
94 posted on 09/03/2011 5:26:22 PM PDT by lewislynn ( What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in commom? Misinformation)
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To: preacher

Such a good post wasted on a poster who will not understand.


95 posted on 09/03/2011 5:27:10 PM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: DJ MacWoW
I completely agree. It's gonna get ugly. And we need to stick together.

Obama IMHO is evil through and through. We need the toughest SOB around to take the fight to him.

And even then, it will be a Battle Royale.

I think Perry is a tough SOB...I think Sarah is also, but I think she need to gain experience.

That said, if the conservative majority decides to get behind Sarah this time, I am behind her 110%.

96 posted on 09/03/2011 5:28:18 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: comebacknewt

As I said, I am trying to learn about all the candidates. I will re-read the article and see the strong opposition to Hillarycare~or Google it...Missed its presentation on this thread....***

That said, I did not like the letter and consider it more than pleasantries...that is my opinion. I have not seen his opposition to Hillarycare or national healthcare—I am learning about all the candidates...I know the most about Romney, Palin and Ron Paul as they were in national spotlight.

He may have been doing his job, but I was really busy in the 90s lobbying AGAINST Hillarycare, Bill and Hillary, and I never was a Dem or an Algore supporter. He may be the nominee, but he, like Romney, has a record and it is OK to ask questions about his past.

***Perhaps you can direct me.


97 posted on 09/03/2011 5:28:23 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: Tempest

if Perry couldn’t see through algore in ‘88, you know he’s not a real Conservative. Perry simply saw which way the political winds were blowin’ after ‘88, & went with the flow.


98 posted on 09/03/2011 5:30:17 PM PDT by stickywillie
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To: RoosterRedux
I think Perry is a tough SOB

Really, the only thing I really like about Perry is that he is said to be one ruthless bastard. We need that.

99 posted on 09/03/2011 5:30:41 PM PDT by riri
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To: Tempest
Since ricardo is using it, it’s probably a vihuela.

Lame...but you get credit for cultural depth.;-)

100 posted on 09/03/2011 5:31:01 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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