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He's the driving force of the Perry machine
San Antonio Express-News ^ | September 4, 2011 | JOE HOLLEY

Posted on 09/04/2011 4:11:28 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: mo
IMHO, the most interesting part about Carney in Joe Holley’s artcle is what wasn’t stated. He misleadingly states Carney started his political career at age 52 working for John Sunnunu.

No. It says he started his NH political career at age 52.

It clearly discusses: at age 33 at age 36....

41 posted on 09/04/2011 6:39:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Here’s more about our boy Carney..

“John Henry Sununu (born July 2, 1939) is a former Governor of New Hampshire (1983–89)...”

Mr. Carney has been the Acting Director of Political Affairs since June 1, 1990. Prior to assuming that position, he served as Special Assistant to the President and Deputy Director of the Office of Political Affairs. Before joining the President’s staff, Mr. Carney was deputy chief of staff to Governor John H. Sununu. He served on Governor Sununu’s personal staff for 7 years, and was the field director for Governor Sununu’s four statewide campaigns in New Hampshire.

http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/research/public_papers.php?id=2765&year=1991&month=3

Carney started his political career working for Judd Gregg — now a U.S. senator — in New Hampshire in 1978. That led, circuitously, to working for John Sununu (former New Hampshire governor and White House chief of staff) and then to President George H.W. Bush and then, after some years, to Texas and Perry.

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-politics/david-m-dave-carney/dave-carney-the-tt-interview/

The article is very misleading...and the reading I can find confirms my personal concerns about Rick Perry’s ties to the RinoCracy..which until today I hadn’t understood completely..but have always felt must exist somewhere.


42 posted on 09/04/2011 6:50:15 AM PDT by mo
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; RoosterRedux; jonrick46; deepbluesea; RockinRight; TexMom7; potlatch; ...
Perry Ping....

IF you'd rather NOT be pinged FReepmail me.

IF you'd like to be added FReepmail me. Thanks.

43 posted on 09/04/2011 6:52:16 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: mo

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44 posted on 09/04/2011 6:58:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: tsowellfan
I admire Gov Rick Perry’s thick skin approach to the critics who attack him “from the right” but they have a history of supporting the liberal agenda and RINOs.

Y'mean as opposed to ex-governor Palin's history of supporting the liberal agenda?
45 posted on 09/04/2011 6:59:57 AM PDT by Oceander (The phrase "good enough for government work" is not meant as a compliment)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

sorry..David M. Carney was born in 1959

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=David_Carney

point being that if he worked for Governor John Sununu...1983-1989 his political career clearly didn’t start at age 52.

It appears in fact, it started at age 19 working for Judd Greg.

All-all-all..Joe Holley is either sloppy journalist...which I doubt..

“The Sigma Delta Chi Foundation, the educational arm of the Society of Professional Journalists, has awarded the 2001-2002 Eugene C. Pulliam Editorial Fellowship to Joe Holley, Insight editor at the San Antonio Express-News.”

http://www.spj.org/news.asp?ref=21

Or he is papering something over for someone...

Looking at what he did with the above fellowship award in 2001-2002 gives some interesting insight as to the RinoCracy’s interests he furthers..

“During his fellowship, Holley will study changes at the U.S.-Mexican border and investigate a theory that the border is being transcended. He will research and write columns, editorials and news articles on the issue. Holley hopes to turn his research on the U.S.-Mexican border into a book or series of articles that summarize his findings.”

Obama’s “job” as president was national healthcare. IMHO, should Perry achieve it, border dissolution is job.


46 posted on 09/04/2011 7:09:37 AM PDT by mo
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To: 1010RD
Who are those people? Who surrounds Perry? Who will he appoint? SCOTUS is more critical now than ever. Will Perry find us another Thomas or a Souter? Is he simply a 3rd Bush or will he steer the country back towards the middle - the Constitution? ------------------------- A very good point. These are questions I would like to see the answers to from all candidates.
47 posted on 09/04/2011 7:11:37 AM PDT by EnglishCon
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To: mo
point being that if he worked for Governor John Sununu...1983-1989 his political career clearly didn’t start at age 52.

H-E-L-L-O!!!!!!!!!

READ post #41!!

48 posted on 09/04/2011 7:11:52 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Voters need to look at who wants to nail Perry’s hide to the barn door.

EPA
Big Education Unions
Trial lawyers

Right on the mark. But alas, too many are too busy fawning over Sarah Palin because, for the guys, she's attractive, for the gals, they fantasize of being like her.
Her speech yesterday was terrific, but she uttered nothing that hasn't been said before, from the likes of Ronald Reagan and Bob Dornan, to give two examples.
And I'll state confidently that Rick Perry isn't going to become flustered and skittish if merely asked, "what do you read?".

49 posted on 09/04/2011 7:47:24 AM PDT by jla
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To: mo
This is FreeRepublic...we don’t attack personally....

That is one of the most unintentionally funny comments I've read on FR in many months.

50 posted on 09/04/2011 8:01:22 AM PDT by ishmac (Lady Thatcher:"There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories.")
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To: mo
all I pointed out was that this character is a GHWB appointee...something that means a lot.

No, that is not all you did.

In the same post, you said Carney's clients were RINOs and then said Perry is not a conservative's conservative.

You made no break, no distinction betweeen the two thoughts.

Either you are clearly trying to say Carney is a RINO and that his past dealings with GHWB make him somehow nefarious or you did not post your thoughts clearly.

What you STILL do not acknowledge is that Carney now agrees with you and has clearly split with the Bush wing.

Now, you are trying to say Carney is jumping horses.

Please organize your thoughts and post clearly. It appears few people around here understand what you are trying to say.

51 posted on 09/04/2011 8:06:20 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: EnglishCon
Who are those people? Who surrounds Perry?

Those are entirely fair questions, and no candidate should be exempted. Don't, however, forget the big picture: we need to support the ascendancy of the Tea Party at all levels, from federal president to local school board. If we don't have a Tea Party-like Congress, it won't matter who sits in the Oval Office. We could conjure up the ghost of George Washington and elect him unanimously, but if we don't have a sympathetic Congress ole' George himself might be ineffective. Of course we need the Presidency, but we need more than that.

For example, if the judiciary committee is staffed with people known to be sympathetic only to nominees such as Thomas, Bork, and Scalia, a President Perry/Palin/Bachmann won't even think of sending a Souter up there for confirmation. Don't lose sight of the bigger picture. We need a broader victory than just the Oval Office.

52 posted on 09/04/2011 8:25:00 AM PDT by ishmac (Lady Thatcher:"There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories.")
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To: ishmac

Good Lord yes - this is one of the few presidential elections I can remember where congresscritters and senators are equally, if not more important, than the actual president.

That assumes people still band together and get behind the conservative candidate - holding their noses if they have to. Getting a strongly conservative congress and senate will keep the new POTUS’s toes in the fire quite well.


53 posted on 09/04/2011 8:47:20 AM PDT by EnglishCon
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To: EnglishCon

Thanks for your kind comments. If we keep the big picture in mind, I think we’ll be more effective.


54 posted on 09/04/2011 9:19:58 AM PDT by ishmac (Lady Thatcher:"There are no permanent defeats in politics because there are no permanent victories.")
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To: mo

“This is FreeRepublic...we don’t attack personally....if you want that kind of argument..head over to DU”

Did you forget the /s?

Find me a thread where anyone says something good about Perry or negative about Palin that does not contain ad hominem attacks and I owe you a case of beer.


55 posted on 09/04/2011 9:23:17 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: 1010RD
Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison ...

You must not be from Texas if you associate Kay with Perry. They loathe one another and marked a big GOP schism in Texas last election.

And Sunnunu and Bush Sr don't care one wit for Perry...the whole Bush posse resents him bigtime.

You can criticize Perry on the border issue...not his best area in my opinion...but you cannot hang those moderates around his neck.

56 posted on 09/04/2011 9:27:28 AM PDT by wardaddy (I will vote for whomever my dog tells me to..right now he's asking if she'll run or not..)
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To: Erik Latranyi

That poster is trying to tie some of Rick Perry’s actual enemies ..who are less conservative..to him when in fact they hate Perry.

The fact this Carney guy has worked for all of them makes no difference.

Carney is a Dick Morris or Ed Rollins or Karl Rove..a hired gun.

The Bush klan hates Perry. My own family in Dallas had a big row over Perry versus Kay..and when Sarah Palin endorsed Perry over Kay, she lost my “women’s business” GOP activist aunt. She and Kay were running buddies...and my aunt had loved Palin before.

It’s hilarious to try to tie this bunch to Perry when they would not tinkle on one another to put out a fire


57 posted on 09/04/2011 9:32:42 AM PDT by wardaddy (I will vote for whomever my dog tells me to..right now he's asking if she'll run or not..)
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To: Oceander
Well, I wasn't referring to Sarah Palin but you do make an interesting point. She did endorse and support Senator John McCain's 2010 re-election.

If you remember, J.D. Hayworth ran against John McCain in 2010 and had support of the local Tea Party. Hayworth is well known for his profound disagreement with Senator John McCain over the concept of amnesty (AKA comprehensive immigration reform). It was because of this disagreement that Hayworth decided to run against McCain last year.

I'm not surprised since Sarah Palin does not support deporting illegals. In fact, she has stated she would support a path of citizenship for illegals.

I would certainly not consider that to be the conservative agenda, my friend.

58 posted on 09/04/2011 11:24:57 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: RoosterRedux

Tommy Merritt was a RINO Texas Rep who was a traitor to the GOP on voter ID and on other issues. The jerk was taken out in the last election cycle by and upstanding constitutional conservative named David Simpson.

If Carney went after Merritt, bully for him.


59 posted on 09/04/2011 5:06:49 PM PDT by WOSG (Cut the spending! Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: Erik Latranyi
My Good Fellow, the facts are as follows (from the article):

Dave Carney is, without question, the most important person in Perry's presidential quest outside of the candidate himself.

Carney originally had cast his lot in this year's Republican primary with Newt Gingrich

Carney's client list: Sununu, President George H.W., Sen. Bob Dole, Sen. Phil Gramm, & Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison

Carney and Rove found themselves at odds a year later...Carney insisted Perry go negative, despite Rove's insistence that negative campaigning would depress voter turnout and undercut the Bush portrait he was crafting of a “compassionate conservative.”

Carney got his way and Perry won, barely, but the Carney-Rove working relationship didn't. The estrangement has only gotten worse.

So the fight between Carney/Perry and Rove/Bush occurred not because of a conservative v. RINO split, but over campaign policy, strategy and tactics. Now that's all from the article.

Carney goes on to run a very efficient and effective campaign for Perry, albeit in a strongly GOP state. He went on to crush Bush-pet Hutchison, all well and good. But, here's the kicker:Carney never endorsed Bush during the 2000 GOP primary and 10 years later dismissed Hutchison and her Bush-family supporters as “country-club Republicans.”

Now in Illinois we've learned to watch what our politicians and their cronies do, not what they say. So in 2010 Carney publicly states that Hutchison and the Bush's are 'country-club Republicans'. What took him so long to figure it out?

Furthermore, Perry's had his RINO moments. Nothing in this article indicates that either Perry or the man closest to him aren't RINOs either, just that they don't get along with the Bush factions of the Texas RINOs. Capiche?

Please don't write me back with more dribble. Read the article again and agian, Erik. It sums up the same each time.

60 posted on 09/05/2011 4:16:43 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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