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Union chief calls Apple 'unpatriotic' for not hiring more workers
The Hill ^ | 9/04/11 | Meghashyam Mali

Posted on 09/04/2011 9:37:04 AM PDT by mdittmar

President of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters James P. Hoffa criticized the patriotism of American corporations who are sitting on assets and holding back from employing more American workers.

Hoffa called American businesses "unpatriotic" for opening factories and stores overseas instead of helping boost employment at home on CNN’s State of the Union Sunday. He singled out Apple Inc., saying “every time they do something, they do it in China, they do it somewhere else.”

“We owe an obligation to America, let’s put America back to work,” he said.

Hoffa suggested that too much attention has been paid to what the president and lawmakers can do to boost the economy and called for increased pressure on business to contribute to the effort.

“What obligation does American business have?” he asked. He called on corporations to “start spending some of that money here in America.”

“We’ve lost 8 million jobs since ‘08 and we need to challenge them to get in the game,” said Hoffa.

Hoffa also said he expected the president to present a “bold plan” to boost employment when he addresses a joint session of Congress Thursday.

“We want a bold plan. Labor wants a bold program,” said Hoffa.

So far what we’ve done hasn’t worked; we’re still at 9 percent,” he said of the unemployment rate. “He needs to challenge business. Labor needs everybody to be in the game.”

Labor unions have indicated they are growing frustrated with their traditional allies in Washington over worries the president and congressional Democrats are more concerned with cutting the national deficit than with boosting the still-struggling economy.

Hoffa though suggested that the Teamsters were still behind the president in his reelection bid. “He took over the worst economy in 80 years,” said Hoffa. “He’s going to have a very difficult time turning this around.”

He dismissed the Republican 2012 presidential field and said Obama was the easy choice. “When the alternatives are Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry, it makes it easy to make this decision,” he said. He said the GOP candidates were “anti-union, anti-worker.”

Amidst concern that Democratic leaders are not pushing back against Republicans, labor unions are gearing up for the 2012 election.

AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka said Wednesday that a super PAC is being set up by the labor federation to help unions earn their independence from political parties.

Trumka said labor unions would continue to push both parties to do more to boost employment.  Voters are “going to check and see who’s pushing for jobs right now, see whose main purpose and focus is jobs,” said Trumka Wednesday.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; hypocrisyonfr; jameshoffa; teamsters
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1 posted on 09/04/2011 9:37:07 AM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

“Made in China”.


2 posted on 09/04/2011 9:39:16 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: mdittmar
Let's see if I understand the heading - Corporations main strategy is to hire union workers. Making a profit and returning that profit to the shareholders is of no concern (to a Statist).
3 posted on 09/04/2011 9:41:27 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: mdittmar

Ah yes, the old Soviet model: Full employment - the people pretend to work and the state pretends to pay them.


4 posted on 09/04/2011 9:41:27 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Made in China, as a result of restrictive labor and environmental laws here in th US.


5 posted on 09/04/2011 9:41:53 AM PDT by Adams (Fight on!)
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To: Adams

Crony Capitalism Chinese Products.

CCCP


6 posted on 09/04/2011 9:42:58 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: mdittmar

Commie union thuggery.....patriots, to all you union types, are people who believe in the constitution...not scum like you who are trying to tear it apart....


7 posted on 09/04/2011 9:44:03 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: mdittmar

Theses idiots want “jobs” in the context of a welfare program.

How Soviet of them.


8 posted on 09/04/2011 9:44:23 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Time to move forward not to the center.)
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To: mdittmar

Unions are unAmerican. They enslave wage earners to support them
and destroy individual freedoms. Time for a right to work law at the
federal level and removal of laws that empower unions. If they have
something to offer, they will attract membership without legal
coercion.


9 posted on 09/04/2011 9:44:41 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: mdittmar

Not with unions and not with this President in office. Companies do not trust either of them. After the elections, and we get a new President, and all the regulations are reversed, I think you will see things turn around fairly fast.


10 posted on 09/04/2011 9:45:03 AM PDT by RC2
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To: RC2

Companies trust the Chinese Politboro?

Naive dolts.


11 posted on 09/04/2011 9:46:06 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: mdittmar

They do it in China because it’s away from the clutches of union contracts and extreme government regulations. This apparatchik ought to ask himself WHO is really driving jobs overseas.


12 posted on 09/04/2011 9:47:03 AM PDT by Track9 (Make War!!)
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To: mdittmar

Hm, where have we heard the terms “unpatriotic” and “criminal” and “insane” used in a political context before?

Big power grab coming next week...


13 posted on 09/04/2011 9:49:09 AM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: mdittmar

A simple answer for Apple is to do like Microsoft does everybody is a temp worker.No union no problem.


14 posted on 09/04/2011 9:49:29 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Track9

“every time they do something, they do it in China, they do it somewhere else.”

You’d think these people would catch on after a while.
These people are really stupid.


15 posted on 09/04/2011 9:49:50 AM PDT by donhunt (I am sick and tired of those bastards insulting and lying to me.)
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To: mdittmar

A union thug calling somebody else “unpatriotic”. What a joke!


16 posted on 09/04/2011 9:51:41 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Coming November 2012 - The End of an Error.)
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To: Vaduz

Yeah. Scr*w working Americans!!

We sure don’t want Americans to have well-paying high tech secure jobs.

Can’t have that. Let’s all become temps. That will be good for America.

/s


17 posted on 09/04/2011 9:51:58 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: Cheerio
Making a profit?,hmm,if companies do that they would stay in business,then where would we be?

We need more "Green Jobs",where companies get billions of taxpayer dollars and then go broke,you know,like Hoffa,obama and reid want.

Hoffa Vows to Fight for Good Union Green Jobs

18 posted on 09/04/2011 9:52:57 AM PDT by mdittmar (i)
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To: donhunt
We all wish they were just 'stupid', but as a fellow Freeper says, 'Never attribute to stupidity what deliberate malice can better explain.' or something like that.

These are people who have made a deal with the dark side and are playing it for all it's worth. Dangerous... and contemptuous.. and that's why I continue to say, make war. Have no illusions, they are doing the same.

19 posted on 09/04/2011 9:55:52 AM PDT by Track9 (Make War!!)
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To: mdittmar

So if they were made here by union labor, what would an IPhone or IPad cost?


20 posted on 09/04/2011 9:56:17 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Yeah. Scr*w working Americans!!
Ever wonder how many microsoft people buy new cars homes and other item that help America.
Don’t be greedy unions are not the answer,why do you think states have the right to work law?.


21 posted on 09/04/2011 9:56:27 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Vaduz

I’ll be honest, I’m a bit agnostic on unions. I’ve never been in one, and don’t support them.

I am emphatically NOT agnostic about American collapse, outsourcing, and globalism.

We need to retain, return, and rebuild American industry.

Whatever that takes. America first.


22 posted on 09/04/2011 9:59:08 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: mdittmar

In a way he’s right. Many companies have no problem outsourcing their production or operations because (up to now) Government has picked up the slack for the domestic consumer base. That is, as private sector jobs have disappeared, well paying Government jobs (or entitlements) have taken their place. Bigger profits for the companies, and less of the problems associated with American workers.

Of course, Unions have helped cause those problems which have motivated these companies to leave. Hoffa conveniently leaves that part out.


23 posted on 09/04/2011 10:00:42 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: All; mdittmar
You know, Mr. Hoffa, back in the 1980's Steve Jobs had a vision of manufacturing Macintoshes in the U.S.

When he was fired from Apple and created NeXT, Inc., he actually built a state-of-the-art manufacturing facility in the United States for NeXT's workstations.

Ultimately those hardware products failed to find a market and the facilities were sold to Canon. NeXT, then a software company, merged with Apple in 1996 and it's technology formed the foundation of Apple's major products today: iPad, iPhone, iPod Touch and Macs.

What Hoffa ignores is Apple does employ tens of thousands of Americans.

Designers, mechanical engineers, electrical engineers, software engineers, IT professionals, retail sales clerks and more. It employs builders and architects for its stores and new state-of-the-art headquarters which will add capacity 12,000 employees.

What Apple (and its competitors) cannot do cost effectively is obtain the parts it needs for its products domestically. The sources do not exist. There's no manufacturing facilities, there's no skilled labor, there's nothing here.

The facilities are in China and other parts of Asia because they cared to develop high quality facilities and workforce to carry out the manufacturing.

That's not Apple's fault.

Mr. Hoffa should look in the mirror for reasons why this is so. He should look at his friends in Washington for more reasons why too.

24 posted on 09/04/2011 10:02:39 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: mdittmar

Look for the Union Liable..


25 posted on 09/04/2011 10:03:16 AM PDT by null and void (Day 952 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: Truth29
“We owe an obligation to America, let’s put America back to work,” he said.What does this mean?,that if you don't belong to a union your not American?

Work with union guys every day,my company is non union,I get 7 weeks paid vacation a year,they can keep their union.

26 posted on 09/04/2011 10:05:09 AM PDT by mdittmar (i)
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To: mdittmar

Get lost, Hoffa.


27 posted on 09/04/2011 10:16:51 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Has the U.S. Postal Service sent any jobs overseas,just asking.


28 posted on 09/04/2011 10:19:19 AM PDT by mdittmar (i)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
The crushing regulatory climate, organized labor demands, lack of skills and poor quality control are why such high tech manufacturing facilities are exceedingly rare or simply not in the United States.

It's not just on the high technology end.

The Obama buses came from Canada because they make the best shells or chassis. The interior retrofitting was done in the U.S. How pathetic is it that American transportation manufacturers cannot produce a bus good enough for a president?

Obama talks up having saved American auto makers. GM is still "government motors," at a loss to tax payers. It screwed over the bond holders and now car owners despite his statements to the contrary. Worse it's producing crap no one wants to buy like the Chevy Volt.

Chrysler, another billion dollar investment loss to tax payers, is now a subsidiary of Italy's Fiat! Italy! Yes, Italy of the European debt crisis.

29 posted on 09/04/2011 10:24:22 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: mdittmar

That’s actually a clever question.

In point of fact, have you noticed those funny almost-bar code labels you see pasted onto your mail, if the code wasn’t printed there by the originator.

As far as I know, those labels are outsourced and created offshore. If anyone has info to the contrary wouldn’t mind being corrected on that.


30 posted on 09/04/2011 10:25:08 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: mdittmar

Bold Plan = Card Check.


31 posted on 09/04/2011 10:27:44 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Sarah Palin was President, you would have a job by now.)
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To: mdittmar

I guess Hoffa could afford a $2000 iPhone made in the USA.


32 posted on 09/04/2011 10:29:30 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Sarah Palin was President, you would have a job by now.)
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To: mdittmar

Ha. The Teamsters have put more companies out of business than any other entity that comes to mind excluding state & federal governments.


33 posted on 09/04/2011 10:33:08 AM PDT by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

So if that’s true,and the U.S.P.S lost $3.1 billion in the last quarter,what could be the reason?


34 posted on 09/04/2011 10:33:49 AM PDT by mdittmar (i)
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To: mdittmar

So, Apple Inc which turned itself around from the brink of failure about 12 years ago thru good management decisions and building products people want is “unpatriotic”, while GM which sibumbed to unsustainable union pay demands was bailed out with millions of taxpayer’s funds and is now building cars dictated by the government, which no consumers want, such as the Volt, are I presume “patriotic”. OK. Right. Got it.


35 posted on 09/04/2011 10:33:58 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: mdittmar

Well that’s why I said it’s a clever question.

The USPS’ problem is they’re a government monopoly tasked with delivering buggy whips.


36 posted on 09/04/2011 10:36:36 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: mdittmar
“What obligation does American business have?”

Answer: To make as much profit as possible for the stakeholders. That's how capitalism - - the system that made America the greatest, most free nation in history - - works. Jimmy, if you want American businesses to hire Americans and make their profits here in America, then tell your Community-Organizer-in-Chief and his party of communists to get the hell out of the way. You freaking moron.

37 posted on 09/04/2011 10:41:42 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
We'll lets hope they can come up with that $5.5 billion retiree health payment that's due,You see my dad was a Postal Worker all his life,a Union man,President of a local,he's gone now.

Don't think he be happy seeing unions making promises they can't keep.

38 posted on 09/04/2011 10:43:22 AM PDT by mdittmar (i)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Companies trust the Chinese Politboro?

That would be nearly as stupid as trusting Ubama's Politboro. (shrug)

39 posted on 09/04/2011 10:44:21 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Answer: To make as much profit as possible for the stakeholders. That's how capitalism - - the system that made America the greatest, most free nation in history - - works.

Oh that explains why communist China is kicking our butts and destroying US industry.

Brilliant.

40 posted on 09/04/2011 10:44:24 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: Lancey Howard

There is a distinct probability that Ubama’s Politboro will be voted out of office in 14 months...

(I’ll leave the rest of that thought for you to complete, independently)

Just saying.


41 posted on 09/04/2011 10:47:31 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: mdittmar
Union chief calls Apple 'unpatriotic' for not hiring more workers

Translation: Bring back featherbedding.


42 posted on 09/04/2011 10:48:57 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Muslims who advocate, support, or carry out Jihad give the other 1% a bad name)
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To: mdittmar

With all due respect, all I need is union assembly and then my Apple stuff (lots and lots of it) will then be reduced to Microsoft reliability.

No thanks.

Shove it up your smelly Obamas, unions.

I don’t like the fact that China manes the electronics, but I like your unions even less. (The Chinese are far, far less corrupt.)


43 posted on 09/04/2011 11:16:30 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Da Coyote

Unions don’t have nukes.


44 posted on 09/04/2011 11:19:25 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: mdittmar

Maybe when unions admit they’ve cost hundreds of thousands of people jobs by not making concessions, and spend some of their hundreds of millions to put people back to work,

will I ever give two sh1ts about what some union president, who makes millions of dollars off his ‘brothers’, has to say about ANYTHING.


45 posted on 09/04/2011 11:23:17 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: mdittmar
and stores overseas

Yes, because stores in DEE-troit would certainly result in a lot of sales in China.

46 posted on 09/04/2011 11:28:35 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: mdittmar

“He said the GOP candidates were “anti-union, anti-worker.”

Actually, the GOP candidates are as pro-worker as you can get. They are in favor of a legal/regulatory environment that encourages private enterprise to create more jobs through growth in business. That requires profits—something Big Labor is against. If there are profits, Big Labor is supposed to get it all.


47 posted on 09/04/2011 11:40:06 AM PDT by Avid Coug
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To: mdittmar

Let’s see the logic...

Hiring more Americans is patriotic because, more people would be working and earning a living and we wouldn’t be sending our factories and jobs overseas.

Then...

Producing our goods and services with more union labor and even non-union labor that is more expensive, would make our products and services more expensive to buy, and with less consumer spending because of those higher prices, businesses would be forced to lay off workers in order to stay in business, because, the demand for high-priced goods and services is just not there, and companies have to reduce the supply of those high-priced items.

So, logic on the union side is just one half of the equation. The business side of logic says that, the union side is totally bonkers.


48 posted on 09/04/2011 12:18:29 PM PDT by adorno (<)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
So if they were made here by union labor, what would an IPhone or IPad cost?

Doesn't matter what few functional ones they would make each would cost much more than anyone could afford.

49 posted on 09/04/2011 12:26:38 PM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: mdittmar
"What obligation does American business have"

Just one! To make a profit for it's shareholders...

It is only secondarily that solid profits generally lead to continued or growing employment, new investment, stable wage income, and new products.

50 posted on 09/04/2011 12:50:16 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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