Skip to comments.Obama’s Illegal Move On Immigration [Why Doesn't Congress Challenge This In Court?]
Posted on 09/04/2011 3:46:22 PM PDT by Steelfish
Obamas Illegal Move On Immigration
By David B. Rivkin Jr. and Lee A. Casey
Only Congress has constitutional authority to establish U.S. immigration policy, and fundamental reform requires legislative action. Thus the administrations recent announcement that deportation will be sought only for undocumented immigrants who have committed crimes in the United States violates the separation of powers and is unconstitutional.
No president, of course, can hope to expel every undocumented person in the United States they number perhaps upward of 11 million people. Human and financial resources to identify, apprehend, process and promptly deport millions have been lacking for years as has, arguably, the political will to do so. In this environment, immigration enforcement authorities, under administrations of both parties, have performed as best they could given their resources. Still, millions have been deported over the years. And while many had been convicted of serious criminal offenses, most deportees have not been in that category.
The policy that Obama unveiled last month differs fundamentally from the spotty immigration enforcement records of previous presidents. The administration indicated that, henceforth, deportation will be focused solely on illegal immigrants who have criminal records and that no enforcement resources will be expended on those who do not pose a threat to public safety. The effect is that undocumented individuals who have avoided apprehension at the border and not been convicted of a serious offense since arriving to the United States will no longer face the prospect of deportation, the most basic means of immigration enforcement.
This goes far beyond merely prioritizing the use of limited immigration enforcement resources. And it exceeds the presidents constitutional authority by, in effect, suspending operation of the immigration laws with respect to a very large and identifiable class of offenders.
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OMG!!! This was in the Washington Post? I’m flabbergasted.
So Obama, what say you??
Are these Holders People??
0 with 0 jobs will be facing a challenger.Powell Bayh? We need a strong candidate.
I have been wondering the same thing. Why is congress and the media letting this punk do this?
sorry wrong thread. lol
The GOP RINO’s don’t dislike foreign invasion any more than Obama does.
How many time have we ask that question about how many different things. Old sheets would go to court in a heart beat. But then it would require a republican that was actually opposed to start something. Boner has the power to do it, but you know that is a no go.
The only reason he wants to deport illegals that are felons is because they can’t vote. Impeach anyone that will try and go around our laws. If you think this guy cares, you got a lot to learn. If he’s re-elected, watch out. If he knows he can’t be re-elected, watch out for what he’ll try and do before he leaves office. This man cannot be trusted.
“No president, of course, can hope to expel every undocumented person in the United States they number perhaps upward of 11 million people”
The gentle writer at the Washington Post should read this...
What did Presidents Hoover, Truman, and Eisenhower have in common?
This is something that
should be of great interest for you to pass around.
I didn’t know of this until it was pointed out to me.
Back during the great
depression, Herbert Hoover ordered the deportation
of ALL illegal aliens in order to make jobs
available to American citizens that desperately
Harry Truman deported
over two million illegal aliens after WWII to create
jobs for returning veterans.
In 1954 Dwight Eisenhower deported 13 million Mexicans.
The program was called Operation Wetback.
It was don e so WWII and Korean veterans would
have a better chance at jobs. It took two
years, but they deported them!
if they could deport the illegal aliens back then,
they could sure do it today. If you have
doubts about the veracity of this information, enter
Operation Wetback into your favorite search engine
and confirm it for yourself.
you might ask can’t they do this today?
Actually the answer is quite simple.
Hoover , Truman, and Eisenhower were men of
honor, not untrustworthy politicians looking for votes!
Oh, and and just a reminder:
Don’t forget to pay your taxes - 12 to 20
million illegal aliens are depending on you!
The shocker here is that the Washington Post published this opinion piece!
Are they trying to send some kind of message to their friend Obama by doing so?
This is all one huge typo by the Washington Post, move along now. /s =.=
The surprising thing is the US black voting contingent is amenable, when in fact the Illegal is a direct threat to citizen employment, including that large percentage of blacks.
Thus Obama and his puppet masters estimate that black racist psychology is solid enough so that the palpable threat of illegal competition can be ignored, as well as the indignity to the US taxpayer.
"They" are not dumb, they are calculating.
Keeping this in mind consider Hillary Clinton, or Jay Rockefeller, or Olympia Snowe, or George Soros, or your clueless neighbor, none of whom say anything about blatant abuse of US national integrity and law.
How sinister can you get? Yet you will never hear it from the DC elite nor the MS Media.
The "Change" is in the works; just not the one that at least some Americans, emotionally blinded by the Media to hate conservatism, envisioned.
We went to the MOON and we cannot deport 10 million illegal aliens?..
I think somebody is not thinking large enough..
Illegal aliens are in fact INSURGENTS!!.. or undocumented felons.. that NEEDs documentation..
“something uncostitutional” happens everyday in our government.
Look at “don’t ask - don’t tell” a law passed by the people now they the military says it is only a policy and they can change it.
The law is on the books and our government and military simply ignore and change it.
I figured the Rick Perry contingent will defend this type of policy.oh wait, soon enough they will.
I’ll tell you why they won’t challenge it. Because most of them WANT it, but they can’t afford to vote to approve it by Congressional vote as mandated in the Constitution. Thus, they are fine with Obama taking this UNCONSTITUTIONAL step.
I would hope that ONE or TWO Congress-people WOULD file suit — although the Federal Courts are so stacked with Progressive Judicial Activists that my bet is they’d throw it out of court. And heaven help the mere citizens should THEY attempt to file suit against Obama for this! “No Legal Standing!” He’s beyond question on everything FOR US MERE PEONS!
>>The GOP RINOs dont dislike foreign invasion any more than Obama does<<
Republican or democrat, the borders remain wide open. Billions shipped to various countries for the so called war on drugs, yet our borders are as pourous as they’ve been for decades....under both partys leadership.
Gotta ask yourself, why?
GROAN. This is perhaps the 500th time I have seen this error-filled piece circulated. Eisenhower deported 1.3 million NOT 13 million! We have tried to correct this on SWA for over a year now without success, as we keep seeing it emailed everywhere, and it makes our side look like we don't have our facts straight.
This policy actually encourages mass scale immigration into the US. like never before. It legalizes illegality before it occurs.
Every individual granted visitor or student status entry visa (or as part of the chain migration policy where visiting family, uncles, nieces, nephews, grandchildren and multiple wives of Muslims) can now plan on overstaying their visa and not be deported. Ditto for million of illegals both here and about to cross the border. This is a huge and irreversible landscape in American demographics and culture.
And here is the worst of it. While Congress has standing to sue, a divided Congress may lack this. Short of bringing an article of impeachment for willful failure to honor his constitutional oath that a president take care that the laws of the nation be faithfully executed, (Remember, this was an article of impeachment brought against Nixon) we are finished.
If there ever was a time for a million man march on DC it is now.
So the regulars at the WaPo had the day off when it came to approving this article!??
“Why is congress and the media letting this punk do this?”
In a word - race.
See post 23. Regardless of WaPo, this a seachange for the nation.
They've lost sight of the forest for the trees- whats the good in having them in office if they refuse to fight to do the right thing?
” >>The GOP RINOs dont dislike foreign invasion any more than Obama does<<
Republican or democrat, the borders remain wide open. Billions shipped to various countries for the so called war on drugs, yet our borders are as pourous as theyve been for decades....under both partys leadership.
Gotta ask yourself, why? “
I’LL TAKE “ BOUGHT AND PAID FOR WHORES FOR 800
If there ever was a time for a million man march on DC it is now.
Agreed — but should all know that there are not enough citizens either aware or that care about this to actually do anything about it. And there’s not a CHANCE Congress would act to stop it.
And, with all the “turmoil” in the Middle East, is it just POSSIBLE that, say, a few million Mulsim refugees in the next 12-18 months find their way to the United States — or Canada or Mexico — and end up HERE, under the auspices of Obama’s defacto Amnesty?
Sure, go ahead and tell me I need to don my tinfoil hat. But it’s crossed my minds than just mine, considering that Muslim populations are 400% higher here than they were just 10 years ago — on 9/11.... And with the guy in the White House now, ANYTHING is possible.
“I figured the Rick Perry contingent will defend this type of policy.oh wait, soon enough they will”
You bet they will.
Rick Perry couldn’t get a sanctuary city law passed in Texas even with a GOP supermajority in the Texas State House.
Ol Rick said an Arizona SB 1070 law “wouldn’t be right for Texas”. It sure was right for Alabama and they are not even
a border state.
Until Rick Perry pledges to NEVER sign and amnesty bill of any kind, the TEA party needs to tell him...
Adios Mofo! ......<-—— google that. Its a funny story.
The Alinsky Marxist is only baiting the GOP to take him on with the immigration issue and this is mostly because he has been having his political ass handed to him for a few months running now.
By the time he would be done with America on his positions about “Immigration”, and with the absolute lies pumped out by the Media party, he would have Hispanics totally believing that the GOP seeks to put them all in Concentration Camps.
This is what 0bama does, its all misdirection geared towards fighting his opposition politically with lies and deception that leverage conflict, division, and class warfare.
Think about it - does he REALLY care about illegals in America?
F no. Even with his historically off the charts failure of a Presidency all he needs to do is to convince 51% of America that the GOP is evil and wanting to hurt their group/family/etc and he wins.
This is just how 0bama is campaigning for re-election.
If anyone in the GOP does anything it needs to be Issa because this is his stated job after all. The Media Party will mobilize even with that, but it needs to be handled there at that point by Issa or else 0bama will tear this country apart.
With lies of course.
thanks, for (prompt :) correction...
Why doesn’t anyone sue?
Because the courts will throw the lawsuit out (see Alabama, Arizona, etc).
It is remarkable that not one single GOP contender (not even those in the 1% range like Gingrich or Santorum) have challenged the legitimacy of this and brought it to the fore. And, of course Sarah Palin made no reference to this in her Iowa speech. And this is a major sea-change in this nation’s demographics. Obama has planted a huge neon sign on all ports of entry to any and all visitors, that reads:
“If you overstay your visa term, you are breaking our laws as set by Congress and you are an “illegal,” but don’t worry we’ll look the other way unless you commit a felony!”
Wow! Think about this. He does this in blatant violation of his presidential oath and the constitution’s separation of powers and Congress and the media are complicit.
It’s a little thing we all usually call CYA.
There is Supreme Court precedent concerning the discharge of duties under the Constitution specifically, Kendall v. United States [37 U.S. 524 (1838)]:
There are certain political duties imposed upon many officers in the executive department the discharge of which is under the direction of the President. But it would be an alarming doctrine that Congress cannot impose upon any executive officer any duty they may think proper which is not repugnant to any rights secured and protected by the Constitution, and, in such cases, the duty and responsibility grow out of and are subject to the control of the law, and not to the direction of the President
It was urged at the bar that the Postmaster General was alone subject to the direction and control of the President with respect to the execution of the duty imposed upon him by this law, and this right of the President is claimed as growing out of the obligation imposed upon him by the Constitution to take care that the laws be faithfully executed. This is a doctrine that cannot receive the sanction of this court. It would be vesting in the President a dispensing power which has no countenance for its support in any part of the Constitution, and is asserting a principle, which, if carried out in its results to all cases falling within it, would be clothing the President with a power entirely to control the legislation of Congress and paralyze the administration of justice.
To contend that the obligation imposed on the President to see the laws faithfully executed implies a power to forbid their execution is a novel construction of the Constitution, and entirely inadmissible
Perry is NOT A RINO! There is a lot more involved in Texas than simply the wishes of the Governor. The Legislature controls most things. Immigration control is determined by the Federal government, and Obama refuses.
Our ruling class loves the illegals.
Republican business owners love the cheap labor made possible by the extra bodies in the labor force.
Democrats love the votes, now and in the future, that the illegal folks represent.
We are so screwed.
My guess is that with the exception of the recently elected congresspersons practically all the old establishment have dirty political laundry which they don’t want exposed insofar as any funny funds from organizations such as the multitude of those funded by people like Soros. It is no secret that all powered politicians are such because of being bought.
Believe it or not I actually found something that Open Society Institute gives money to that isn’t radical left.
It’s a magazine that brings news out of North Korea, I guess Soros will fund anything meant to undermine a country, lol. Maybe funding this is an accident, wouldn’t doubt it.
They can’t hope to deport them? They can sure as hell try.
What-you-said bump. These guys are probably in the back of a truck on their way to reeducation camp as we speak.
No, Perry deliberately fumbled it just short of the goal line.
The bill died in the regular session, as Perry and co-conspirator Lt. Gov. Dewhurst had planned, but an arcane rule of the Texas Lege and a parliamentary screwup by a half-bright Dim who was trying to run out the clock for her own reasons by filibustering past the witching hour, brought the bill back automatically, against Perry's intentions, for the special session.
Perry and Dewhurst had to arrange one of those broad-daylight, middle-of-the-marketplace, nine-guys-walking-away-fast-while-mark-keels-over Mafia hit jobs. They did succeed in killing the bill, which Perry only pretended he favored, for his political meeds at the beginning of the regular session.
It was a big pile of political fakery, is what it was. Same thing with the TSA anti-groping bill.
Second point: There is no "Republican supermajority" in the Texas Lege.
There are effectively three parties in Texas now: Conservative, Main Street Republicans, who are getting screwed, suburban "economic conservative"/"good government Republican" RiNO's who vote with the Dims on social and moral issues like gambling and taxing gambling, and otherwise represent exclusively the business and fiscal interests of rich, access-capitalist Republican businessmen and the insurance and banking industries (but I repeat myself); and left-wing Democrats (the only kind left anywhere, just about).
At the moment, the legislature and its calendar are being driven and controlled by an unholy alliance, McCain-style (remember the "Gang of 14"?), of social-liberal/"Me-Too" RiNO types (of whom the Lt. Gov. and speaker of the lower house are both members in good standing) with the Democrats.
The house speaker was elected on a party-line Democratic vote plus a minority of Republicans who adhere to RiNO-ism and spite the conservatives every chance they get -- including, just a few weeks ago, on redistricting, in which the speaker and the 'Rats colluded to screw conservatives out of four seats, and increased 'Rat representation in the next Lege.
“Second point: There is no “Republican supermajority” in the Texas Lege”
Whether it is or is not a “supermajority” is semantics. Many consider it so.
The fact is Perry has no political will to stop illegal immigration into Texas. That much is clear.
Texas Republicans like to boast about the voter ID law that they passed. BFD...... I’m not worried about illegals
voting. They come here to work and steal, and have babies for free at the county hospitals and suck up all the
social services that you and HAVE to pay for. They don’t come here with the sole intention to vote.
We are subsidizing the employee health care costs for all these cheap labor loving friends of Rick Perry.
Arizona and Alabama decided no more. Perry needs ask Jan Brewer to return his nuts.
FReeper Cincinatus' Wife has been posting up repeatedly, and in the face of correction, that Rick Perry should get credit for leading Texas to a legislative supermajority, as a way of praising his leadership and suggesting, ever so gently, that his leadership mano is so great, and his mojo, his political vig, so totally awesome that it extends to the voting booth in legislative races, permeating the People's legislature with his influence, character, and mighty example.
I was just pointing out, horse apples! The situation is nothing of the sort, and if anything, the voters should be getting all the credit for sending those people to sit in the Lege; but Rick Perry and Joe Straus (the speaker) and Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst have been working together day and night to sandbag the will of the People, in favor of that of the Plutocracy that Rick and David work for.
There is no hesitation, second thought, or vacillation on the part of the People about what they want done with respect to the Border and immigration. But Perry and his employers (as opposed to mere constituents, who provide the minor consideration called paychecks and votes) are absolutely determined to keep the Border jammed wide open, with all the attendant ills you describe, together with the ultimate loss of sovereignty over the State, and possibly the United States as well, as the wager.
Well said my friend