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Perry runs Romney ragged
Houston Chronicle ^ | September 4, 2011 | RICHARD S. DUNHAM and CARLA MARINUCCI

Posted on 09/05/2011 1:46:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

WASHINGTON - Mitt Romney's loss is Rick Perry's gain in the 2012 Republican presidential race, as the Texas governor, a late starter in the wide-open Republican presidential field, is not only stealing support but also big-money backers from the former GOP front-runner.

Just look at California.

Four years ago, Mike Schroeder was California political director of Mitt Romney's presidential campaign. This year, he dismisses Romney's second White House campaign as "disorganized."

"A lot of the energy that was for Romney has gone to Perry this time around,'' said Schroeder, who has not formally endorsed a candidate.

Former California assemblyman Scott Baugh, the influential head of the Orange County GOP, helped raise nearly $2 million for Romney in the last race in that perennial GOP fundraising gold mine. But recently, he co-hosted a "meet-and-greet" for Perry with local Republicans and calls the Texas governor "an authentic individual who has a clear vision for what the country needs."

Former California Republican Party chairman Shawn Steele remembers that in the last campaign, a "united" Orange County GOP leadership "flew to Boston and raised money for Mitt." Now, "they have deserted the ship."

Defections are exactly what Perry needs as he attempts to build a national grass-roots organization - and fundraising base - to maintain his newfound position as leader of the presidential pack.

[snip]

Perry's goal is to raise as much money as possible before the Sept. 30 deadline for the presidential financial disclosure reports, which will be watched closely as a sign of Perry's political staying power.

"If he beats Romney in terms of third-quarter contributions, in spite of only having about half the time to raise the money, then that will be a major victory for Perry and a major blow to Romney," said Rice University's Jones.

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: donors; fundraising; gopprimary; massachusetts; mittromney; perry2012; rickperry; rinoperry; rinoromney; rinosatwar; rinowar; texas
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1 posted on 09/05/2011 1:46:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All
CLICK!
2 posted on 09/05/2011 1:52:33 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If Perry does raise more money than Romney in Q3, it is game over, barring a surprise.


3 posted on 09/05/2011 1:59:29 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Obama machine is going to be a trip.

That SOB has been raising money for over a year.

I hope Perry pokes him in the nose


4 posted on 09/05/2011 2:05:13 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Although in all fairness to Romney only one of them was a cheerleader.

5 posted on 09/05/2011 2:06:40 AM PDT by Tempest (I will be the one to say I told you so.)
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To: Tempest

That’s all YOU got!!??


6 posted on 09/05/2011 2:10:53 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; grey_whiskers
It is becoming increasingly clear that the nomination is Rick Perry's to lose.

It is quite possible that he will proceed to lose it with his performance in the upcoming debates but I think not. My guess is that he will avoid making any huge blunders and will thus easily negotiate the low hurdle which confronts him as his test.

Because Perry has an enviable telegenic presence which rivals Romney's, his performance at the debates will be a success if he does not fail. If he avoids jaw-dropping gaffes he will have reassured the bulk of the party that he is an acceptable candidate because they have already concluded that his record is satisfactory. If he does not get trapped on immigration, health care, or some scandal, he will only increase his lead.

Therefore, he can easily outpace Romney and Bachmann merely by being adequate in debate. These columns one reads saying that he must outshine everyone to maintain his level of high expectations is exactly wrong. The contrary is true.

If Sarah Palin enters the race, her bar is considerably higher. She must affirmatively dispose of a 3 year long accumulated sense by a substantial portion of the party that she is not fit for the nomination or, if nominated, she is a risk to lose. That means that Sarah Palin must affirmatively win the debates and walk away as the clear winner. Hearts must beat faster for minds to be changed. That is a very high bar indeed.

To compound Palin's problems and to further raise the bar for her in the debates, she must so positively impress that she can overcome her lack of organization and her lack of funds. She might be able to do this because of her extraordinary personality and because of the extraordinary devotion of her supporters. If Palin slips in any way, or even merely fails to outshine everyone else, she will not be able to expand her base or fund her campaign adequately.

I remain of the opinion that you will not enter the race. Clearly, the train has nearly left the station.


7 posted on 09/05/2011 2:11:45 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

What you have said is true.
It doesnt make Palin less Conservative than Perry, but it is true.

She Is behind in the race and the fact is she does not have a track record.

Nobody loves the underdog more than me, but its a very outside chance.


8 posted on 09/05/2011 2:17:37 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This is the real “Meat and Potatoes” of winning the nomination.

The money is now committed and flowing. Any candidate not firmly established by now is Texas Toast.

The thing is, Perry really knows how to establish a solid campaign, starting with the money and the monetary support. Without those things, no candidate can get farther than wishful thinking on Face Book.

GO RICK! GO! (Check's in the mail.)

9 posted on 09/05/2011 2:18:11 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: nathanbedford

Best For Sarah to bide her time.


10 posted on 09/05/2011 2:19:01 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Just saw this -- a long piece.

GOP establishment nears decision point

As the GOP presidential field emerges from the traditional Labor Day starting gate, the candidates are confronting a sobering reality: They’re already running out of time.

Though there are still months to go before Republicans start casting real primary ballots, party leaders say the dynamics of the race could be locked in place by the end of October. That’s because the Republican establishment – which has largely stayed neutral in the GOP primary – is about to start picking sides.

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The emerging duel between the two Republicans presents an agonizing choice for donors who want to support the better general election candidate, but also want to be on board with the winner of the party’s 2012 primary.

With elites hesitating over both the painfully cautious, independent-voter-friendly Romney and the blustery, activist-charming Perry, their affections could still turn either way in the next two months.

Put another way: It’s shaping up as a choice between one candidate who looks electable and other who might be inevitable.

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Donors could also scatter according to more parochial or self-interested concerns, the second ex-chair said, musing: “If I’m John Boehner and I look back at last cycle and saw most of my pick-ups were from New York do I want Perry on top of the ticket?”

To Republican insiders who have already made their choice in the 2012 race, all the caution is starting to look an awful lot like dithering.

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11 posted on 09/05/2011 2:19:34 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: mylife

she has spewed about as much as she can, just above 4th grade now.


12 posted on 09/05/2011 2:20:42 AM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem)
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To: nathanbedford
Astute analysis as usual FRiend. But I consider it unlikely she will enter or participate in the debates remaining.

Her time has already run out and she lacks the organization skills or the funds to launch an effective campaign.

13 posted on 09/05/2011 2:24:44 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: richardtavor

I wouldnt be that harsh, but she does need to establish a record of hard decisions.


14 posted on 09/05/2011 2:25:41 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: richardtavor
Let them spew. They just lose even faster when they do. Perry is double digits ahead of all the wannabe’s and getting stronger every day.
15 posted on 09/05/2011 2:27:20 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: richardtavor

Oh.
My mistake. I was thinking you were speaking of Sarah.


16 posted on 09/05/2011 2:27:52 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: mylife

17 posted on 09/05/2011 2:30:38 AM PDT by Tempest (I will be the one to say I told you so.)
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To: Tempest

Very witty!


18 posted on 09/05/2011 2:31:11 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Tempest

Who the hell is the grotesque figure on the right Heir Goebbels?


19 posted on 09/05/2011 2:33:00 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Tempest

Ahh...

Al Bore!


20 posted on 09/05/2011 2:34:08 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Tempest

The DU commies sends you their undying love. For doing their dirty work for them. (You must be proud.)


21 posted on 09/05/2011 2:34:10 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

He aint proud, He’s just loud.


22 posted on 09/05/2011 2:36:56 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: nathanbedford; PSYCHO-FREEP; mylife; shield; All

Voters (and donors) want to see the person they’re going to give their heart, sweat and money to out there taking it and giving it — they want them to win, to see a true leader for the United States of America.

The Jim DeMint Labor Day Forum in S.C. is today at 2:00.

The Reagan Library debate will be held Wednesday evening.

The Florida debate is scheduled for September 22.


23 posted on 09/05/2011 2:37:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

We shall see what happens.

I like Jim Demint but I dont see him usurping Perry.
Wasnt Perry in SC today?


24 posted on 09/05/2011 2:40:15 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Looking forward to it! (Thanks for the update.)

Only serious and real candidates need apply.......(And will)


25 posted on 09/05/2011 2:41:24 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I wonder the same about you...


26 posted on 09/05/2011 2:43:42 AM PDT by Tempest (I will be the one to say I told you so.)
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To: Tempest

I’m ignoring you from here in out. (Waste of my time.)


27 posted on 09/05/2011 2:47:40 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: mylife

I don’t know when he was going to S.C.

But he’ll be there today!


28 posted on 09/05/2011 2:47:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Tempest

I hope that one day you realize that there is a difference between ideological purity and party politics.


29 posted on 09/05/2011 2:47:58 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: Tempest

Why do you live in Kollyvorniastan?

The land of reason?


30 posted on 09/05/2011 2:49:04 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: All

The only way Perry will lose is if the party splits and attacks him.


31 posted on 09/05/2011 2:54:16 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Open boarders Rick Perry doing well in on the left coast, what a surprise, do you think it is because he is so lefty himself. Wonder if he has algore lined up for fund raising in California.
32 posted on 09/05/2011 2:57:48 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: org.whodat

We’ve had quite enough of your BS.


33 posted on 09/05/2011 3:07:46 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: mylife
The only way Perry will lose is if the party splits and attacks him.

Ain't gonna happen.

34 posted on 09/05/2011 3:09:17 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think he has the best shot, And I think he is conservative enough.

Whodat.org’s arguments are as weak as water


35 posted on 09/05/2011 3:11:29 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If Sarah Palin, the only other contender, enters the race and goes after Perry she will split the vote.

She cant praise him and damn him at the same time.


36 posted on 09/05/2011 3:19:12 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: mylife

The Left wants her to split the vote.

Ain’t gonna happen.


37 posted on 09/05/2011 3:23:54 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
There was energy for Romney?

I saw in NH Romney's trying to move to Perry's right on immigration claiming he opposed in-state tuition and supports a full fence.

38 posted on 09/05/2011 3:36:26 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: newzjunkey

“.......Political aide David Axelrod hinted that Obama will try to sharpen his differences with Republicans who insist on spending cuts in virtually every area and who refuse to let tax cuts expire, as scheduled, for the wealthiest.

It’s hard “to create an economy in which people can get decent jobs and raise a family at the same time we’re cutting back on our commitment to spending on education and research and development that will create innovation and jobs,” Axelrod said in an interview.

The Republicans’ “essential message is, let’s go back to the policies that helped get us in this mess,” he said, citing Wall Street deregulation and corporate tax breaks.

If GOP lawmakers, backed by the presidential hopefuls, continue to thwart Obama’s bid to mix targeted spending cuts with tax increases, Axelrod said, “we’re going to take our case to the American people.”......”

http://www.kristv.com/news/tough-economic-climate-as-obama-seeks-2nd-term3/


39 posted on 09/05/2011 3:42:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What a joke!


40 posted on 09/05/2011 3:47:03 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: mylife

Even unions have pulled back support, retreating to their states to regroup and fight the new GOP strongholds.


41 posted on 09/05/2011 3:50:55 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why back Romney, and already proven loser?


42 posted on 09/05/2011 4:08:12 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: nathanbedford

As usual, your post here was extremely thoughtful and well written. In this case, your #7 on this thread will be the object of scorn by some very vocal members of FR.

I think what you wrote in #7 is completely logical and, to a certain extent even obvious. But others will be angered by it and see you, the messenger, as a kind of villain. But I’m sure you already knew that when you posted.

As always, thanks for sharing your insights with the rest of us.


43 posted on 09/05/2011 4:10:20 AM PDT by samtheman (Palin. In your heart you know she's right.)
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To: Tempest

Rick Perry is a solid conservative, and it behooves you to admit it.


44 posted on 09/05/2011 4:12:36 AM PDT by samtheman (Palin. In your heart you know she's right.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If you recall 2007, Romney is a nasty campaigner when losing. This thing is going to get very nasty and if far from over.


45 posted on 09/05/2011 4:15:06 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: mylife

Really do not care what you have had enough of.


46 posted on 09/05/2011 4:24:50 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: samtheman
There is no such thing as a solid conservative that supports amnesty. I do not care if it makes both you and algore mad.
47 posted on 09/05/2011 4:28:22 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: org.whodat

Rick Perry is a solid conservative, as much as it pains you to admit it.


48 posted on 09/05/2011 4:37:21 AM PDT by samtheman (Palin. In your heart you know she's right.)
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To: nathanbedford

It is clear that many have underestimated Gov. Palin.

The decision to enter and compete is hers, and
the public will LISTEN to them all.

Rick Perry has border issues, and issues regarding
his misunderstanding of what he did with PerryCARE.
These are neither small nor insurmountable.

That said, the next POTUS will be the candidate
most in resonance with the public ... which is ‘fed up’
with the political nonsense, lies, fascism and open borders.


49 posted on 09/05/2011 4:40:13 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Tempest

And the other wears celestial underwear....whatever that is.


50 posted on 09/05/2011 4:40:58 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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