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The Post Office May Shut Down This Winter Unless Congress Authorizes A Bailout
Business Insider ^ | 09/04/2011 | Zeke Miller

Posted on 09/05/2011 6:03:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: ROCKLOBSTER

My! MY! We have an attitude don’t we. But I notice you didn’t answer the same question you wanted him to answer. Really all you appear to be able to do is cast aspersions!!And by the way I am neither of the above options you offer!!


81 posted on 09/05/2011 7:43:18 AM PDT by ontap
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To: sheana
Since there are usually 30 days in a month figure out how much junk mail we receive. jeez Never actually thought of it like that.

Junk mail...The Going-Postal Union Thug Full Employment Act.

They have to "process" their route with junk mail and then deliver it...to every house! Otherwise, you only see them when a 1st class was addressed to you.

That's why they're defending the indefensible.

82 posted on 09/05/2011 7:44:58 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Must be a really-really-really fat benefits package in addition to your highly inflated wage.

Not really. I still have to pay serious co-pays when I do something. My "really-really-really fat benefits package" paid about two thirds of a small medical procedure I had done. My life insurance package is about half what is recommended for a guy like me, without children. Some carriers have to sign a piece of paper requiring them to spend as many vacation days as necessary to keep them from exceeding 2080 hours per year.

Yeah, I love that "really-really-really fat benefits package" that is SO FREE, I have to pay for it.

Now, if you want to know how much I make per hour, do I go average, or do you only want the per hour on really light days, when I can do my entire route in about 7 hours? Some days it's over 10 hours, and I finish in the dark. The blizzard on 2/1/11 caused me to bury my car in excess of 20 times, requiring multiple tows from helpful homeowners, and lots and lots of shoveling by me, out on a deserted road miles from the next house. Would you like an hourly wage based on that day?

83 posted on 09/05/2011 7:47:25 AM PDT by Big Giant Head (Two years no AV, no viruses, computer runs great!)
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To: sheana

Almost all of mine goes directly into the recycling bin. It’s ridiculous.


84 posted on 09/05/2011 7:49:34 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: xenob

In 1996, along with a business partner, I started a company that processed mail... we would take first class mail and do all the sorting/processing/bundling... stamp it with third class postage... then use our internal network to bag/tag and distribute to the destination USPS facilities throughout the US. At the destination closest to the recipient, we would enter the mail into the USPS network, allowing the post office to complete the delivery.

By doing this, we were able to bypass the USPS at their weakest and most costly points in their mail stream (the pickup/sorting/processing and transportation)and utilize their most effective part of the system (their 300,000+ postal carriers).

The results were near first class transit times for our customers at third class rate and a nice profit for my company. The USPS was happy, as they were actually making money at the lower postage rates because their expenses to handle/transport were reduced and eliminated.

In 2001, my company sold to UPS. It is now known as UPS Mail Innovations. I have lost track of the size, but last I heard, it had revenues exceeding a quarter of a billion and employs tens of thousands.

Proof that money can be made if the USPS did more work-sharing and, eliminate their costly components, and utilize what they do best (visit every address with their carriers).


85 posted on 09/05/2011 7:49:50 AM PDT by dmzTahoe
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To: SeekAndFind

574,000 employees, and they don’t know what to do to stop losing money? Maybe if they hired their brother’s consulting firm.....


86 posted on 09/05/2011 7:51:31 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: ontap
My! MY! We have an attitude don’t we.

Damn right, In case you hadn't noticed, the US is broke. It's borrowing forty cents of every dollar it spends. You seem to have some attitude as well.

But I notice you didn’t answer the same question you wanted him to answer.

I did answer it, I said, nothing compared to union "wages". That's more of an answer than he gave. Besides, he has absolutely no stake in funding my paycheck. We have a stake in funding his.

by the way I am neither of the above options you offer!!

Then why are you defending the guy who's trying to defend the indefensible?

87 posted on 09/05/2011 7:54:18 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If they don’t have all that much business anymore, then why are they still employing 574,000 employees.


88 posted on 09/05/2011 7:54:41 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

It’s not a fat benefit package, we got one of the less expensive ones. Regardless of what he is making, it will likely be cut this month.


89 posted on 09/05/2011 7:55:36 AM PDT by Marie Antoinette (Proud Clinton-hater since 1998.)
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To: Big Giant Head
bury my car

You're not a union thug postal "worker" Get outta here, we're not even talking about you.

Go read your own article.

90 posted on 09/05/2011 7:57:25 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The New York Times reports that unless the House and Senate take drastic action in the next few months, one of the nation's oldest institutions — which employs 574,000 Americans — may be forced to shut down.

I gotta laugh that the NY Slimes doesn't recognize a garden variety Washington headfake like this one. The Postal Service will not shut down. It will make claims that it might have to in order to get what it wants from Congress. (Probably the ability to lay off some workers.)

Congress will never let the postal service go away ... until such time that Congress is no longer dependent on it. That day is far away.

91 posted on 09/05/2011 7:57:51 AM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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To: Marie Antoinette

No, no, no. It’s a “really-really-really fat benefits package”. Really.


92 posted on 09/05/2011 7:59:18 AM PDT by Big Giant Head (Two years no AV, no viruses, computer runs great!)
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To: Marie Antoinette
Regardless of what he is making, it will likely be cut this month.

If he is not a union thug his wage won't be cut...he will probably lose his job.

93 posted on 09/05/2011 7:59:47 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: trisham
90% or more of what I receive in the mail is junk.

Same here, but the other 10% is what keeps my business going while the 90% keeps it coming (by being a source of revenue for the USPS). Garbagemen gotta work, too, and some of it goes to start the fireplace in the fall.

94 posted on 09/05/2011 8:03:23 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: agere_contra
Let the current USPS crash: create another USPS without a union.

I just realized today that the USPS contract contains language that prohibits layoffs. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.

95 posted on 09/05/2011 8:06:26 AM PDT by RobertClark (People sleep peaceably in their beds at night b'cse good men are rdy to do violence on their behalf)
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To: Big Giant Head
We do still support the idea of free markets and small businesses here on FreeRepublic, don't we?

Not if it concerns copyrights.

Posters on this site are trashing copyright laws and lawsuits all the time. It seems many FR "comrades" don't want creative people to own their own creations, or only for very limited terms after that creation takes place.

The Internet makes it easier to take other people's creative work and not pay for it. Since such creations are so easy to take, the collective asserts its right to take whatever it wants.

If you want to own somebody's original song, I guess it's too much to ask someone to pay 99 cents to download the song from iTunes.

The following are some creations covered by copyright law:

Books, magazines, scholarly articles, poems, songs, drawings, paintings, photographs, screenplays, illustrations, letters, master recordings, motion pictures and sculptures.

96 posted on 09/05/2011 8:06:57 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority (Where is the middle ground on insolvency of the United States government?)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

It’s easy to get the idea that federal workers, like so many state workers, contribute nothing to their medical and pension benefits. But it’s not true.

Under the old Civil Service rules, federal workers contributed 7% of salary toward their pensions. What they contribute to their health insurance can vary depending on the option they pick but on average I think it is about 30%.

Civil Service has been replaced by a new program called FERS, which I’m not very conversant about. But I think the consensus is that it is less, not more, generous than the old Civil Service system.

Keep in mind also that Civil Service retirees don’t get social security. Even if they have enough quarters to qualify, an offset rule prevents them from collecting much, if anything.


97 posted on 09/05/2011 8:07:32 AM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

So then by your logic all he had to say was more than some and you would have been satisfied...right!!!

I’m not defending anything my post to him could not possibly have been construde as supporting him...I just don’t think you insulting him ads anything to the dicussion.

I have not demonstated anything of an attitude nor have I insulted you as you have me and him!!!


98 posted on 09/05/2011 8:07:51 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Big Giant Head
Some carriers have to sign a piece of paper requiring them to spend as many vacation days as necessary to keep them from exceeding 2080 hours per year.

Vacation days?...paid time off?

Now, if you want to know how much I make per hour... do you only want the per hour on really light days, when I can do my entire route in about 7 hours?

Yes, that will be fine.

99 posted on 09/05/2011 8:09:16 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

No, there’s a nation-wide mail count for all rural routes. It is upon this that our salary is based. It’s likely I will lose money, but it’s equally possible that the mail will go up, and I’ll see an increase.

The USPS isn’t mandatory union. I’m sent a package every year to get me to sign up. First class postage too. One can join anytime, and there’s a small window somewhere in November, I think, where one can opt out of union membership.


100 posted on 09/05/2011 8:09:52 AM PDT by Big Giant Head (Two years no AV, no viruses, computer runs great!)
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