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Exclusive Report: Documents indicate ATF, FBI allowed Indiana ‘crime gun’ sales
Examiner.Com ^ | September 5, 2011 | David Codrea

Posted on 09/05/2011 9:07:56 AM PDT by PJ-Comix

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has acknowledged an Indiana dealer’s cooperation in conducting straw purchases at the direction of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.  Exclusive documents obtained by Gun Rights Examiner show the dealer cooperated with ATF by selling guns to straw purchasers, and that bureau management later asserted these guns were being traced to crimes.

From the confidential source providing the documents:

The dealer…was sent a "demand letter," based on the number of traces to him, which was retracted after his attorney pointed out they resulted from his cooperation with ATF. (Strangely, he got two voicemails from two different ATF people, both saying they were the head of the tracing operation).

Some of the straw men turned out to have felony convictions, the agents called the FBI background check system and fixed it so the transactions would be approved, something which may also have happened in Phoenix. (The attorney wasn't clear as to whether the guns were actually delivered to the gangs).


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
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See the sidebar slideshow accompanying this article for screen captures of all documents referred to in this column. At the very least, as with “Project Gunwalker,” they indicate straw purchased guns ended up in crime traces, something those directing surveillance were well aware of. It also indicates the FBI and ATF were once again involved with allowing transactions rejected by NICS to proceed, indicating this practice could be more widespread than has been previously documented, and not confined to Southwest border operations.

WOW! If this report is accurate, and no reason to think it isn't, this means ATF can't pretend that what happened out of Phoenix in the SouthWest was some sort of unauthorized rogue operation. This HAD to be known at the top.

And what other parts of the country did the ATF command that the guns be allowed to walk into the hands of criminals?

1 posted on 09/05/2011 9:08:00 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: MestaMachine; Nachum

FYI


2 posted on 09/05/2011 9:10:05 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (aka Big Daddy Goo-Goo)
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To: PJ-Comix
Remember when the congress and media hammered Reagan for Iran-Contra?

For zero, crickets.

3 posted on 09/05/2011 9:10:50 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: PJ-Comix

THIS is the one that is going to take the Obama administration down!


4 posted on 09/05/2011 9:11:24 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: PJ-Comix

The evidence just keeps piling up. I hope Issa has a big staff.


5 posted on 09/05/2011 9:12:25 AM PDT by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: PJ-Comix

Operation Gunstumbler!


6 posted on 09/05/2011 9:13:35 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: PJ-Comix

I’ve read this. It’s huge. But I wish for an acceptable source I could post on facebook to largely non-political friends.


7 posted on 09/05/2011 9:13:59 AM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: PJ-Comix

From the very start, I always thought this was the BATF’s version of the “Reichstag Fire”.


8 posted on 09/05/2011 9:16:22 AM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: Bigun

“THIS is the one that is going to take the Obama administration down!”

But he’s black though. Surely that means these are just racists angry against Holders’ “people”...


9 posted on 09/05/2011 9:16:32 AM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: Bigun

From your mouth to God’s ear!


10 posted on 09/05/2011 9:17:21 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: marktwain

Somebody here should post the documents provided in the slideshow. They are pretty damning.


11 posted on 09/05/2011 9:18:15 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (aka Big Daddy Goo-Goo)
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To: basil

Just how widespread around the country is this insanity of the BATF to allow guns to be walked into the hands of criminals? Now I’m starting to wonder if any of the guns used in the 25 New York murders in the past day were the result of BATF ordering them to be walked into the hands of the murderers.


12 posted on 09/05/2011 9:22:41 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (aka Big Daddy Goo-Goo)
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To: PJ-Comix

What were Holder and obama’s handlers THINKING, to promugate this on our society????

What are “they” NOT willing to do, to nullify, eliminate or re-write parts of the US Constitution with which “they” do not agree????


13 posted on 09/05/2011 9:23:59 AM PDT by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common - Voltaire)
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wide spread subversion of the system to facilitate crisis to enable public supported changes to society

Man, these people are wacko radicals of the worst kind

They should be criminally responsible for enabling a criminal to obtain a gun ...... In our law, police officers do not have immunity, they clearly say that someone who knowingly enables a criminal to obtain a gun is an accessory after the fact.

If they aren’t charged now, I expect the next Attn General to.....this is BS.


14 posted on 09/05/2011 9:24:32 AM PDT by dila813
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To: PJ-Comix

Nixon went down over a second-rate burglary to place illegal microphones, but Holder and Obama are responsible for multiple murders.....do you think the Washington Post is on this one.....?


15 posted on 09/05/2011 9:26:53 AM PDT by 230FMJ (...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
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To: PJ-Comix

Note to newcomers to this story: “Project Gunrunner” is the name ATF assigned to its Southwest Border Initiative to interdict gun smuggling to Mexico. “....This obfuscation. Bush’s DOJ was originally trying to find the extent of US arms going to Mexico. They reportedly said there is no “Iron Pipeline” and began to disassemble the operation. Holder and Obama figured if there is no Iron Pipeline, we will facilitate or make one to use as action to stop all selling of guns and ammo in the US.


16 posted on 09/05/2011 9:29:33 AM PDT by Safetgiver (I'd rather die under a free American sky than live under a Socialist regime.)
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To: PJ-Comix

I posted months ago that, anecdotally, dealers across the nation are reporting that they were also forced by BATFE to conduct purchases to straw buyers who failed NICS.

Someone needs to get dealers nationwide to report such forced sales to a single source (other than gov’t) such as the NSSF so we can create a record of where these sales were taking place and their frequency.


17 posted on 09/05/2011 9:30:34 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: silverleaf
What were Holder and obama’s handlers THINKING, to promugate this on our society????

Simple. Support for the Second Amendment has grown dramatically in recent years. Also gun dealers were fully complying with the background check laws designed to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. So what to do? Work "under the radar" as Obama said to get the guns into the hands of the criminals via the BATF giving the green light to dealers to sell to them. Then when the gun crimes rise, blame it on the guns and win public support for more gun restrictions.

They thought they could get away with it but it BACKFIRED on them bigtime.

18 posted on 09/05/2011 9:33:53 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (aka Big Daddy Goo-Goo)
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To: Erik Latranyi

An oatmeal cookie to the first MSM reporter to collect statistics on gun crimes and traces back to the dealers to find out if the guns in question were allowed by the BATF to “walk.” And I still gotta wonder if any of the NYC murders in the past day were committed using guns that were allowed to walk.


19 posted on 09/05/2011 9:39:30 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (aka Big Daddy Goo-Goo)
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To: Lockbar
F&F: OBAMA'S REICHSTAG FIRE
20 posted on 09/05/2011 9:41:03 AM PDT by gaijin
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