Possible Multiple Shooting in Carson City, Suspect Still in the Area

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[no-to-illegals]

Maybe some aliases in there also. There maybe is more going on than anyone is being told, if anyone knows anything. This certainly is not being investigated? Best guesses can be wrong, but dots and lines are starting to connect, in my mind. Of course my mind has been called delusional more than once ... therefore doubting an alarm will be sounded.

[hedgetrimmer]

Mexican markets in Salinas run mescal up from Mexico and sell it in large plastic cubes, or in soda bottles sometimes.

I am sure they run people up too, who work in the market bakery and sausage making kitchen. It wouldn’t surprise me if they brought other contraband up as well.

[no-to-illegals]

Money laundering scheme?

A money laundering operation would fit in nicely with Gun-walker ... imho

[no-to-illegals]

In an earlier post (from you) was mentioned 11 agencies are involved in the investigation. Sound like there are suspicions? Wonder if our someones are late to the party? Hope not.

[Vesparado]

I assume others will catch, as you did, the sarcasm intended ...

Actually, I’m not offended by Hoffa’s remarks -— any more than I was offended by the bulls eye on Sarah Palin’s web site. All well within the bounds of acceptable political hyperbole as far as I’m concerned.

When we get to something like “Kill Whitey”, however, I’m not so accepting.

[no-to-illegals]

May now understand why what was said before 3P presser. Anyone looking for information will need to check for accounts with Wells Fargo. Do not know this as a fact, but overheard mention on the open mic at 3P before presser began.

[NormsRevenge]

late TV news update..

4th person has died .. toll is 5 so far..

family has offered there may have been some mental health issues

no info released re:status of 7 remaining wounded

[no-to-illegals]

Requesting prayer for the wounded, the lost, and the families. Please Lord, heal those who have been wounded, take those who have lost their lives into Heaven, please comfort the families of the wounded and lost. Lord, we on this Earth request this because we know you are Lord and all things are possible when you do for us, your children. In Jesus name. Amen.

[no-to-illegals]

Uncertain, yet am reminded may have something wrong up-thread. Report is a female was shot beside the motorcycle with Colors and Eagle and was not a male as indicated up-thread by me. Do not know condition of female beside the motorcycle.

More prayers for the victims. Lord should there be others thinking of doing such an act, please change those persons' hearts (those wanting to kill for unknown reasons) or allow LE to intervene before more die from tragedies such as this. Let the perps be stopped. In Jesus name. Amen.

[BossLady]

Yes, a 3rd Gaurdsman has passed - a female which had been reportedly taken to Renown yesterday with either a head or stomach injury. News 4 here, reported that all the Guardsmen were taken to Renown as their extensive injuries required them to be taken to the regions top trauma center.

Presser @9A scheduled by Sheriff Furlong. We may possibly get the names of the Guardsmen at that time.

News 4 also reporting that authorities are looking into where Perp got weapons since he did not have carry permits.

RGJ reporting gunmen reloaded at least once. Wintnesses say they saw a female Guardsmen shot in head. More chilling accounts of those in the restaurant at the time. Go to rgj.com

[no-to-illegals]

Thanks BossLady. Will have to go offline soon. Hearing a rumor (rumor?) of a report of having traced the AK back to Mexico. Weapon once was in hands of Mexican police (this is the rumor)? As stated a rumor, and the investigation is early. More interested in the bank accounts and flow of funds through the business or businesses. Perp reported to be on disability? Maybe another rumor. Soon to be offline many hours. Will return. God willing, in the late day or late evening. Appreciate the information and updates.

[BossLady]

Will keep posting info from Pressers and any other news related to this I find for anyone interested. This is far from being over after reading the accounts of those in the iHop at the time of the shooting.

[no-to-illegals]

Thank You.

[BossLady]

From RGJ -

- Family members report Perp as 'slow'. Why did the guy have guns? Why was he first on the Mi Pueblo Market biz license? Did the brothers just use this guy to do their dirty work? (we know Gilberto is asking for money to talk to the press)

- Perp reportedly collecting disability insurance perhaps because of mental issue

- Hospitalized victims doing 'as good as can be expected' according to Sheriff Furlong.

- Perp recently declared bankruptcy according to abcnews

[BossLady]

KOLO 8 Reno - 2 of the 5 Guardsmen had been deployed overseas in the past.

[BossLady]

Presser 9A - Sheriff Furlong -

- 20 Local, State, National Agencies jumped in to help with chaos

- 8:58A first call re: gunfire in and out of iHop. 9:05A officials on scene

- 11 Total Victim count. 5 Nat Guard. 6 Civilians.

- Pronounced dead at scene 1 female civilian and 2 guardsmen. Perp sent to hospital.

- Big Gen. William Burks confirmed - Dead - (forgive spelling errors - taking from press conference) -

1- Major Heath Kelly - Reno 35 - father with kids - decorated field artillary offier - Commander of Joint Force Service in Carson City

2- Sgt First Class Christian Riege - Reno 38 -father with kids - Afghanastan from 2009 to 2010 - also in Navy for 2 years

3- Sgt First Class Miranda McElheney - 13 years in Guard, owned small nearby baking company,

4 - Civilian - Florence Gunderson, 67, South Lake Tahoe, husband retired Marine Corps was with her and injured

- Perp was a citizen and history of mental illness that is being investigated.

- No other person involved.

- Cannot conclude military was targeted since equal amount of civilians were shot.

- ATF looking into where Perp got guns

- Survivors all have serious to critical injuries

- No one inside iHop was armed

- Many acts of heroism said to have happened inside restaurant

- Perp made 3 pawn shop transactions in last year

- Prez of iHop says no employees were injured and they brought in counselors to help them thru incident

- Confirmed that Perp used assault rifle and was also carrying a pistol which was not used. Also found other weapon in van

- 4 surrounding businesses were struck by fire including Casino Fandango across street

- Autopsy reports will give more clues as to what happened

[MileHi]

Thanks for updating this thread.

- ATF looking into where Perp got guns

I hope we don't have to just take their word for it...

[BossLady]

News 4 911 Calls -

- Male Owner of BBQ placed called and you can hear gunfire in background telling dispatch that shooter when inside iHop then came outside and was shooting....started yelling at woman to get out of way and also for people to get inside. (I believe he is one of the people that went inside iHop to help and came upon Mr. Gunderson who was injured and looked over to see his wife dead and around to see peoples heads split open)

- Lady caller said someone shooting at iHop....Dispatch asks....Oh do you know who it is?

[ridesthemiles]

He also used another name that ended in Gonzales.

I failed to write down the first & middle names he used with Gonzales.

[BossLady]

Adding it all up -

Perp carried 2 guns with him during spree (another rifle found in van) an AK and pistol that he did not fire. He reloaded AK so he obviously knew how to use it. Now...for a person who was considered 'slow' and mentally unstable..I find that interesting. Perp also had 3 pawn shop transactions in last year....did he buy pistol in one of those transactions?