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Border crossers finding new fence painful
ABC15.com ^ | 9/6/11 | Associated Press

Posted on 09/06/2011 12:56:32 PM PDT by mdittmar

NOGALES, AZ - The higher the wall, the harder they will fall. That's what border crossers trying to scale the new border fence at Nogales are painfully finding out.

The imposing new border fence running through Nogales is proving to be a treacherous obstacle for suspected illegal immigrants

A Nogales Police Department report says on Aug. 12, a woman broke her leg after climbing the border fence.

Two days later, officers found a second injured fence climber. And a third, suspected illegal immigrant from China fell and broke his leg on Aug 22.

(Excerpt) Read more at abc15.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; illegals; mx
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Maybe they could cut a door in there,and put in a doorbell.
1 posted on 09/06/2011 12:56:35 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar

And what about the handicapped illegal immigrants?
Shouldn’t they have a wheel chair ramp every so
often?


2 posted on 09/06/2011 12:59:09 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: mdittmar

3 posted on 09/06/2011 12:59:44 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: mdittmar

No doubt they’ll all be suing the State of AZ for damages.


4 posted on 09/06/2011 12:59:48 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: mdittmar

Grease it on both sides.


5 posted on 09/06/2011 1:01:18 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: mdittmar

But, but a fence wont’t work and a waste of time!!!

Seems like it’s at least slowing them down. Every little bit helps. Add in crocks, land mines, and sharp shooters and that’ll slow ‘em down even more.


6 posted on 09/06/2011 1:01:49 PM PDT by bgill (just getting tagline ready for 6 months after you vote in Perry - Tried to warn you he's a RINO.)
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To: mdittmar

And if they’d have built double-fencing as they should have, the casualties might not have tried in the first place.


7 posted on 09/06/2011 1:02:01 PM PDT by Will88
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To: mdittmar

This can’t be true, don’t believe your lying eyes.

I have it on good authority that such fences do not work. Just ran across that on a Perry thread, where Perry’s opposition to a border fence was justified for that very reason.


8 posted on 09/06/2011 1:03:29 PM PDT by Pelham ("Resist we much!" - Al 'Jiffypop' Sharpton)
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To: tet68

OSHA will probably check into it,this is a illegal immigrants job after all.


9 posted on 09/06/2011 1:04:03 PM PDT by mdittmar (i)
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To: mdittmar

Maybe it could be electrified with a “green energy” windmill or solar panels.


10 posted on 09/06/2011 1:05:00 PM PDT by Skybird
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To: bgill
Since fences don't work then how come the White House has a high wrought iron fence around it?


11 posted on 09/06/2011 1:06:54 PM PDT by dennisw (nzt - works better if you're already smart)
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To: mdittmar

Throw them back over! This is not our job to rehabilitate these border criminals,they came from Mexico throw them back!


12 posted on 09/06/2011 1:07:21 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Carnival commie side show, started November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: mdittmar

China?!


13 posted on 09/06/2011 1:07:26 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: mdittmar

SHEESH! Logic says build ‘em higher, and break both legs.


14 posted on 09/06/2011 1:11:04 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: TASMANIANRED
Grease it on both sides.With pork fat. That'll keep the Islamists at bay.

"Pork fat rules!"


15 posted on 09/06/2011 1:12:35 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Deploy. Dominate. Disappear.)
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To: mdittmar

16 posted on 09/06/2011 1:12:38 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: mdittmar

So the “reconquista” invaders are hurting themselves invading sovereign land where many places deem it approriate to respond to such actions with being shot on sight? GOOD!


17 posted on 09/06/2011 1:13:32 PM PDT by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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To: mdittmar

Sounds like a wall on the border would work fine.


18 posted on 09/06/2011 1:14:18 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: mdittmar

Put some decoy gators in the Rio Grande. Also, a few speakers with random gun shots and screaming coming from the US side of the fence ought to slow down the invasion.


19 posted on 09/06/2011 1:14:18 PM PDT by festusbanjo (This is what happens when you hire a guy to run the country that hadn't run anything but his mouth)
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To: mdittmar

How long before some slip-and-fall lawyer signs them up for a class action lawsuit against the government?

And how long after that before the government agrees to pay them medical and damages, give them amnesty and remove the fence?


20 posted on 09/06/2011 1:15:49 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Muslims who advocate, support, or carry out Jihad give the other 1% a bad name)
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To: mdittmar
Yeah, Perry was saying that all you need to get over a 30 foot fence is a 35 foot ladder.

But the back side of the fence can be a real bear as this story indicates. And it's pretty easy to catch someone with a broken leg or ankle.

So Perry's quip is lame (pun intended).

21 posted on 09/06/2011 1:17:03 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: mdittmar

I like a nice sign warning about landmines. And having actual landmines, too.


22 posted on 09/06/2011 1:19:42 PM PDT by jdsteel (I like the way the words "Palin for President" make progressives apoplectic.)
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To: mdittmar
Good, it is not only a barrier but also a deterrent. Rick Perry should pay attention.
23 posted on 09/06/2011 1:21:12 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: dirtboy

And a third, suspected illegal immigrant from China fell and broke his leg on Aug 22....


24 posted on 09/06/2011 1:21:59 PM PDT by traumer
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To: tet68

Not on both sides, of course.


25 posted on 09/06/2011 1:24:01 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: dennisw

Well, good grief, that fence didn’t work. Look who’s in there now!


26 posted on 09/06/2011 1:25:02 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Pelham

“This can’t be true, don’t believe your lying eyes. I have it on good authority that such fences do not work. Just ran across that on a Perry thread, where Perry’s opposition to a border fence was justified for that very reason.”

Didn’t Perry say that if you build a 30-foot fence, they’ll bring a 32-foot ladder?

Seems to me a fall of 30 feet down the other side would slow down a border jumper enough to make it pretty easy for the Border Patrol to catch them, pick them up, and throw them back over the fence.


27 posted on 09/06/2011 1:25:18 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: muawiyah

Ha!


28 posted on 09/06/2011 1:27:01 PM PDT by mdittmar (i)
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To: dirtboy

You bad boy.


29 posted on 09/06/2011 1:27:13 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: mdittmar

Three broken legs vs how many who scaled the wall and weren’t hurt? Wow......that’s really effective.


30 posted on 09/06/2011 1:29:17 PM PDT by Texan
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To: mdittmar

We need to add some more height to this thing, and increase the fall from orthopedic to neurological height.


31 posted on 09/06/2011 1:29:42 PM PDT by surely_you_jest
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To: SharpRightTurn

Yup. Perry seems to have a great deal of faith in ladders and not much in fences.

I have noticed that some high security installations employ fences, so evidently they didn’t get Perry’s memo.


32 posted on 09/06/2011 1:33:38 PM PDT by Pelham ("Resist we much!" - Al 'Jiffypop' Sharpton)
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To: mdittmar

Maybe they could get Lee Ermey out there to motivate them over. No?


33 posted on 09/06/2011 1:35:18 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: Pelham
While I think the "buy a bigger ladder" defense is stupid, google Rio Grande pics. I would be very pissed as a Texan if the Federal government put a fence along Texas southern border.

It works in many places but not along the Rio Grande.

34 posted on 09/06/2011 1:36:47 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: normy

Then what are you going to do? My uncle was the sheriff of Hudspeth County, right along the border east of El Paso. In his day there was very little movement across the border. You mostly worried about the occasional rabid dog straying over.

But today that’s all changed. Cartels are smuggling drugs and people across into Hudspeth. That border is now dangerous. If not a fence, what would you do?


35 posted on 09/06/2011 1:42:06 PM PDT by Pelham ("Resist we much!" - Al 'Jiffypop' Sharpton)
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To: mdittmar

But, but senor Ricardo Perry says fences don’t do nada.


36 posted on 09/06/2011 1:50:10 PM PDT by Tempest (I will be the one to say I told you so.)
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To: Pelham
Troops are probably the best option.

The drug cartel's will tunnel and I understand the dangers but ceding the Rio Grande to the Mexicans is not something I am willing to do.

Truth be told, the actual fix for this is a mile wide demilitarized zone with a fence on their side of the Rio Grande, but of course that would mean war.

37 posted on 09/06/2011 1:51:12 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

This is the article I was talking about earlier today.


38 posted on 09/06/2011 1:51:15 PM PDT by HiJinx ("The wealthy and satisfied do not migrate, they stagnate." ~ Louis L'Amour)
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To: Texan
Texas already has strategic border fencing in populated areas. A 1200 mile long fence along the entire Rio Grande River which is Texas' southern border defies common sense. The Big Bend country is extremely rugged and the cost would be astronomical.

Land that isn't included in the park is privately owned and water from the river is used for irrigation and livestock. You can't cut a landowner off from his only source of water.

No fence not under constant surveillance by an armed force willing to use deadly force will keep out someone determined to cross.

In a time of cuts, Texas doubled it's budget for border security.

39 posted on 09/06/2011 1:52:38 PM PDT by Texan
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To: mdittmar
The imposing new border fence running through Nogales is proving to be a treacherous obstacle for suspected illegal immigrants

Well, good. Fences are meant to deter as well as prevent illegal entry. Another reason "virtual" fences are not an acceptable substitute.
40 posted on 09/06/2011 1:53:41 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: dennisw

If fences are so good, why not put up a 20 foot one on the North Korea/South Korea DMZ. That should allow a few troops to be sent home because the fence should do the job. Not!


41 posted on 09/06/2011 1:57:29 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: mdittmar

Sounds to me like they need some more concertina wire on top - and in the potential landing area!


42 posted on 09/06/2011 2:00:57 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


43 posted on 09/06/2011 2:03:43 PM PDT by HiJinx ("The wealthy and satisfied do not migrate, they stagnate." ~ Louis L'Amour)
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To: Tempest
But, but senor Ricardo Perry says fences don’t do nada.

That's one of the typical excuses RINOs give for doing nothing.
44 posted on 09/06/2011 2:06:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: Cheetahcat
Throw them back over! This is not our job to rehabilitate these border criminals,they came from Mexico throw them back!

Rick Perry was right. I have to give him credit where credit is due. Who would ever have thought a fence could become The Lottery Ticket for Mexicans.

45 posted on 09/06/2011 2:10:40 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: bgill; Liz; HiJinx; Cheetahcat; tiapam; stephenjohnbanker; AuntB
"Add in crocks, land mines, and sharp shooters and that’ll slow ‘em down even more."

They come here for all the freebies that they will get, once on our soil.

If you put a big juicy steak outside a fence that houses a starving dog, I guarantee he will find a way to get to it!

Take the teat away!

When there is no longer food stamps, no welfare assistance, no subsidized housing, no employers that will hire them, no cheap paying jobs paying cash under the table, no free medical care, no free education for their children, no free scholarships for those who go to our high schools illegally, no ID's to steal - they will stop coming here!

BUT - it seems that both parties in DC are reticent to do a dang thing about it!

And every single day, THOUSANDS more manage to get onto the soil of the "Land of the Free" - where EVERYTHING is FREE for them!

46 posted on 09/06/2011 2:45:32 PM PDT by yorkie
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That should allow a few troops to be sent home because the fence should do the job.

***

Fences stop people, not tanks.


47 posted on 09/06/2011 2:48:52 PM PDT by ROTB (Sans Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia when we revolt.)
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To: tsowellfan
"Throw them back over! This is not our job to rehabilitate these border criminals,they came from Mexico throw them back! Rick Perry was right. I have to give him credit where credit is due. Who would ever have thought a fence could become The Lottery Ticket for Mexicans."

Right about what?? Open borders and helping to build Mosques?

48 posted on 09/06/2011 2:56:23 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Carnival commie side show, started November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: Borax Queen

Ping - I give up - Post 46 tells why. It is a lost cause, I now fear. As long as we supply the teat with free milk, the hungry will attach.


49 posted on 09/06/2011 4:07:25 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: Cheetahcat
Right about what?? Open borders

Now you're making things up. Rick Perry has called for 1000 troops to be placed on the Texas/Mexican border time and time again.

If you want to know Perry's stance on illegals. It's about the same as Sarah Palin's.

50 posted on 09/06/2011 4:07:47 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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