Feds to assume control of Bastrop Co. fire; TX volunteer firemen turned away

Gonzalez Cannon News Daily ^ | 9/6/11

[LomanBill]

[During the Hayman fire in CO the Feds’ interference did more to keep the fire burning due to their idiotic regulations]

Uhuh.   And the Federal employee who started that fire in the first place, with her "love letter", says she's really sorry... and that folks should just get on with their [burned up] lives.

 

 

Terry Barton may want people affected by the Hayman fire to "get on with their lives," but it's hard when all some see is
a sea of black stumps out their front door. Or if their dreams of retiring in the mountains went up in smoke almost six years ago.
Or if they lost their home, with a lifetime of memories inside.

[Texas resident]

Something is real fishy about all this.
The feds would not help with the spring fires. baraq flew over them in West Texas to make a bs speech in El Paso about how safe our border is. baraq will send all kinds of federal help to his voters, but he has a special hatred for this state. Now the feds are coming in to fight the fires?
The fire captains won’t turn down help, but when the feds come in and send locals home? What’s up with that? The locals know the area.
something’s up.

[Carry_Okie]

I own native grassland, never been plowed.

This land has never been plowed.

That's starthistle.

This land has never been plowed.

That's kudzu.

This land has never been plowed.

That's cheat.

Now, I'm not saying your property looks like that, but if you think that plowing or not denotes "native," you probably don't have any idea what I have been saying, so let me be more explicit. I mean that our land (other than our vegetable boxes) is ALL NATIVE SPECIES, right down to the tiniest forb, including every blade of grass. The restoration project on our land started as with overgrown fuel bomb infested with introduced species for over 150 years that we know of. Yes, I weed it all (and our neighbors' properties too), seven months a year, much of it on my hands and knees, many times, nearly 25 acres of it.

Unless you have studied botany extensively, I seriously doubt that you even know all the grass and forb species you have, much less have measured them quantitatively. Vegetative transects on our meadows measure 99.6% pure native plants, most of them forbs. We have documented 355 plant species here, with meadows having as many as 40 within ten feet (we started with less than 60). There are 33 species of grasses, rushes, and sedges here alone. In fact, I have been asked to publish these results in an academic journal, as they are unprecedented in the field of "restoration ecology."

So, when I said "native perennial bunch grasses," it really is a distinction with a difference, especially when their associated native forbs are included. That we have green grass (and especially sedges) atop a hot sunny ridge at the end of summer deep in the Coastal mountains of California is unheard of. The difference is that we have virtually all native plants under a uniquely strict degree of control.

If green bothers you that much, get a goat.

What a stupid thing to say. If you are so lazy that you haven't checked out who I am and what I've done on this forum in the area of exposing enviro-racketeering in government land management, if you read what I said and posted to you carefully and understood the commitment it to our land it denoted, then this is my last polite post to you, and believe me, I can get very nasty with a demonstrably-ignorant jerk like you. The good news for you is that for now I won't go to much of an effort, because you are clearly incapable of comprehending what you are reading, much less sufficiently diligent to check things out.

As it is, I want a pair of St. Croix sheep because I want my grasslands even more productive. Once I've finished the conference center and built a barn, I will.

[Jedidah]

Sheesh.

I’m talking native Texas prairie. Native plants. Like the good Lord created it, well-maintained in its native state by my family for well over a century.

Nice that you have a project and the time, money, and energy to spend on it. But you might want to think about working on your attitude and excessive arrogance. We’ve been at this since before you were born.

[Carry_Okie]

I’m talking native Texas prairie. Native plants. Like the good Lord created it, well-maintained in its native state by my family for well over a century.

Yup, you're well meaning but ignorant all right.

We’ve been at this since before you were born.

No, you haven't, because the Spanish and their exotic grasses had their way with that land long before your family ever saw it.

[metmom]

Oh great.

Retaliation for TX standing up to them.

Time to pray that some of the rain we’ve been getting will head down their way.

God help TX.

[SteamShovel]

unsolicited amateurs

They may be volunteers, but Volunteer Firefighters typically not amateurs in the inexperienced sense of the word. Just because they are not paid firefighters does not mean they are not trained nor capable.

As for unsolicited, when disasters are this out of control, good people like to do what they can do. The feds are not God, and they sure as hell do not have ultimate authority on private property. This isn't war or a riot, it is a fire.