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California ready to help combat Texas fires (Not officially received a request)
calcoastnews.com ^ | 9/6/2011 | DANIEL BLACKBURN

Posted on 09/06/2011 11:30:01 PM PDT by dragnet2

California ready to help combat Texas fires

September 6, 2011

A state fire official told CalCoastNews today that California is ready to respond to a request from Texas authorities “should it come” as wildfires in the Lone Star State explode in dry, windy conditions.

Texas Forest Service officials are asking for help from firefighting agencies nationwide in the battle against a series of 181 raging blazes that already have killed four people including a mother and her 18-month-old child, consumed nearly 120,000 acres, gobbled up 700 homes, and show few signs of containment. Today is the 294th consecutive day of wildfires in Texas, according to officials. (CNN)

“Texas has come to us as well, and we have given them a rundown of our equipment,” Daniel Berland said, a spokesman for Cal Fire in Sacramento. “At this time, we have not officially received a request from them, but we have talked to them about what we can provide, knowing that we, too, are in the middle of fire season, and have been busy this last couple of weeks, especially.

“But if we do get a request, we’ll be happy to help.”

Authorities said more than 2,000 firefighters are on the job in Texas, but most are volunteers and exhaustion is becoming a major factor.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: california; fires; texas
Hmmm
1 posted on 09/06/2011 11:30:11 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Recieve a request from who? Didn’t the feds just take over?


2 posted on 09/06/2011 11:32:51 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: GeronL
Recieve a request from who?

Since the article said they were waiting for an official request and indicated they had given, "Texas a rundown of our equipment" but, “At this time, we have not officially received a request from them", I would guess they were referring to officials from the State of Texas.

3 posted on 09/06/2011 11:39:05 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Wow, I was just reading that online. It’s rather obscure too. Texas should ask, fews states have better fire equipment or more experience than we do, and our fires are not nearly as acute (yet) as their’s.


4 posted on 09/06/2011 11:40:35 PM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: dragnet2
“should it come”

I don't think Texans are interested in Californians' "help".

5 posted on 09/06/2011 11:41:56 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: americanophile
I'm surprised the request has not happened. As you said, few states have better fire equipment or more experience than we do at fighting wild fires.

Seems a bit odd.

6 posted on 09/06/2011 11:43:18 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Navy Patriot
I don't think Texans are interested in Californians' "help".

I wonder if the hundreds being burned out would agree?

7 posted on 09/06/2011 11:44:55 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Especially since Perry is running for president; it seems like he would do everything to demonstrate the effectiveness of non-federal cooperation as well as innoculate himself against any criticism by pulling out all the stops. I’m not second guessing him, but it won’t be long before the criticism starts.


8 posted on 09/06/2011 11:49:08 PM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: Navy Patriot; americanophile
I don't think Texans are interested in Californians' "help".

We're all Americans here. California has the best firefighting soldiers in America. And when fires break out here, we aren't embarrassed to ask for help from other states. If Texans are too proud to ask for help, then they have only themselves to blame when another 1000 homes go up in flames.

I may live in California, but I am a native Texan. They need help and California is ready to give it. Only a fool would say no.

9 posted on 09/06/2011 11:49:24 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Navy Patriot

...that’s rather silly.


10 posted on 09/06/2011 11:49:50 PM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: GeronL

BTW, I think the feds did that with the Bastrop County Fire, but there are hundreds of other fires, from what I understand.


11 posted on 09/06/2011 11:49:58 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Right now I am supporting Perry, but he needs to step up to the plate on this issue. If he refuses help, for whatever reason, then this could be disastrous to his candidacy. Do I need to mention Katrina? The press will kill him.


12 posted on 09/06/2011 11:54:58 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: americanophile

Excellent point..


13 posted on 09/06/2011 11:55:45 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Navy Patriot

“I don’t think Texans are interested in Californians’ “help”. “

I have seen plumes of smoke from my house for several days and two friends have lost their homes and the drought/fire situation is not going to get better anytime soon.

I thin the vast majority of Texans would appreciate California’s help.


14 posted on 09/06/2011 11:57:28 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: P-Marlowe

Yes, we have a 747.

15 posted on 09/06/2011 11:58:11 PM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: P-Marlowe
Yeah, when your states on fire, with thousands losing their homes and everything else, ya declare war and bring any help willing to come up to the front lines.

And in this case, their very well trained, experienced help, with the some of the best equipment.

I'm surprised a request did not come much sooner. I am even more surprised a request has yet to be made.

16 posted on 09/07/2011 12:02:26 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: americanophile
I've had those planes fly 100 feet above my house to put out a fire in the brush nearby. That was cool beyond words.
17 posted on 09/07/2011 12:04:08 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

I may live in California, but I am a native Texan. They need help and California is ready to give it. Only a fool would say no.
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This morning (well yesterday now)Perry was on Fox and Friends and he had said California was sending a tanker[s?]. I had even thanked California on a thread yesterday morning after hearing that.

I wonder what the deal is....obviously Perry thought such as he stated it on F&F— California was going to be helping us. I was much relieved as I know Cali deals with wildfires just about more than any state and we could sure use the help.


18 posted on 09/07/2011 12:04:36 AM PDT by Irenic
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To: dragnet2
Authorities said more than 2,000 firefighters are on the job in Texas, but most are volunteers and exhaustion is becoming a major factor.

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Didn't I just read on another thread the Feds came and kicked all the volunteers out? This is getting strange and confusing

19 posted on 09/07/2011 12:09:14 AM PDT by Irenic
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To: P-Marlowe

Me too. Had that DC-10 go right overhead after dumping its Foscheck load; awesome sight.


20 posted on 09/07/2011 12:09:45 AM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: Irenic
We need to get these Texas fires out quick because California's fire season is already here. We're gonna need those tankers back pretty soon. In the interim, Texas needs as many as they can muster up. There are 49 other states that would be more than happy to send in firefighters. All they need is someone willing to ask for the help.

California has never been too proud to ask for help. When we have big fires, we get firefighters from all over the western US and when they have fires, we send our guys over there.

This is how America is supposed to work.

21 posted on 09/07/2011 12:10:18 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Irenic
Didn't I just read on another thread the Feds came and kicked all the volunteers out? This is getting strange and confusing

The feds want Texas to burn to the ground. They want Perry to have his Katrina moment.

22 posted on 09/07/2011 12:13:36 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

“The feds want Texas to burn to the ground.”

The Feds are here and the only other thing they could do is to make it rain.


23 posted on 09/07/2011 12:15:48 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: americanophile; P-Marlowe

The interest here seems to be growing, as this was just posted a few minutes ago. But the author is not clear about the alleged political issue.
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Air Tankers sitting in Sacramento while Texas burns!!!

Right now their are seven heavy air tankers sitting in Sacramento California doing nothing while all these homes are being lost in Texas. Due to political bickering and arm wresting the premier air tanker in the country is sitting Idle on the ramps due to differences with Aero Union and the Forest Service. Encourage the Forest Service to send these tankers to Texas to help fight these fires! It would be great if Politics were put aside for the time being so these tankers can do what they do best and fight fire!

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-669626?ref=feeds/latest


24 posted on 09/07/2011 12:20:46 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Disgusting.


25 posted on 09/07/2011 12:22:26 AM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: dragnet2
One wonders why these idle planes aren't even working on our own fires:

Tehachapi brush fire 40% contained as flames burn 13,400 acres http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/09/tehachapi-brush-fire.html

26 posted on 09/07/2011 12:24:43 AM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: americanophile

I’m not sure about the source in 24..I have no idea who made that comment.


27 posted on 09/07/2011 12:30:12 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: americanophile

28 posted on 09/07/2011 12:31:31 AM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: dragnet2
Would it surprise any of us?
29 posted on 09/07/2011 12:37:55 AM PDT by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: dragnet2

There MUST be some political issue behind this because I’m sure as I’m breathing Perry said Cali was sending a tanker[s], I felt grateful to Cali for it, too. That was 7:30-8am-ish (central) yesterday morning.

The only other thing I could think of is Perry or somebody didn’t use the right channels/forms? to request it? That doesn’t make much sense because Perry has dealt with disasters before.

Something is wrong here...


30 posted on 09/07/2011 12:38:12 AM PDT by Irenic
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To: dragnet2

Have houses burned in minority neighborhoods? If so, guess what the MSM will do with those images!


31 posted on 09/07/2011 12:41:49 AM PDT by TChad
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To: P-Marlowe

It’s tricky at this time of year.

The real fire season starts now and it seems the biggest fires come in around October.

Having these planes nearby and on standby is what keeps what fires start from getting too large and out of control.

If the planes are somewhere else, particularly many hours away the quick response goes away and the fires grow unchecked and then become a major fire quickly. In addition many fires here start in places with no real access short of the air.


32 posted on 09/07/2011 1:38:01 AM PDT by DB
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To: GeronL
FEMA Defends No More Help Over Texas Wildfires
33 posted on 09/07/2011 3:13:35 AM PDT by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: Irenic
There MUST be some political issue

Well, according to Cal Fire, "At this time, we have not officially received a request".

we have talked to them about what we can provide, knowing that we, too, are in the middle of fire season, and have been busy this last couple of weeks, especially....But if we do get a request, we’ll be happy to help.”

34 posted on 09/07/2011 10:03:42 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: DB
It’s tricky at this time of year. The real fire season starts now and it seems the biggest fires come in around October. Having these planes nearby and on standby is what keeps what fires start from getting too large and out of control.

They understand that, and is why Cal Fire told those in Texas:

“We have given them a rundown of our equipment, Daniel Berland said, a spokesman for Cal Fire in Sacramento. At this time, we have not officially received a request from them, but we have talked to them about what we can provide, knowing that we, too, are in the middle of fire season, and have been busy this last couple of weeks, especially. But if we do get a request, we’ll be happy to help.”

35 posted on 09/07/2011 10:11:50 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: americanophile

No, nothing surprises me anymore.


36 posted on 09/07/2011 10:16:44 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: MEG33

This thread has four fatalities.


37 posted on 09/07/2011 10:33:47 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, please let it rain in Texas. Amen.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Why not?
I am a Texan and would be grateful indeed.


38 posted on 09/07/2011 11:06:59 AM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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