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Texas Gov. Rick Perry Cut Fire Department Funding by 75%
opposingviews.com | Sep 6, 2011 | Michael Allen

Posted on 09/07/2011 8:16:21 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan

According to KVUE-TV, the state of Texas, under Gov. Rick Perry, cut state funding for the volunteer fire departments that protect most of the state from wildfires. Firefighters have actually been dipping into their own pockets to fight fires.

Volunteer departments that were already facing financial strain had their funding cut from $30 million to $7 million. There are 879 volunteer fire departments in Texas; 114 are paid fire departments, while 187 departments are a combination of volunteer and paid.

At a press conference Monday, Perry promised to seek federal disaster relief and said that FEMA would be in the state by Wednesday.

While the Texas governor has been highly critical of FEMA in the past, he dodged questions from CBS’ Erica Hill on Tuesday's 'Early Show,' insisting that now was not the time to worry about reforming the agency.

Perry said: “The issue is taking care of these people right now. We can work our way through any conversations about how to make agencies more efficient, how to make Department of Defense equipment, for instance, more available. There are a lot of issues we can talk about, but the fact of the matter is now is not the time to be trying to work out the details of how to make these agencies more efficient. Let’s get people out of harm’s way.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 09/07/2011 8:16:26 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: The Bronze Titan
sorry, here's the source link: opposing views.com
2 posted on 09/07/2011 8:18:50 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: The Bronze Titan

NEWS ALERT: PERRY RESPONSIBLE FOR HURRICANES AND WILDFIRES!! INVOLVEMENT IN 9/11 ATTACK UNDER INVESTIGATION...


3 posted on 09/07/2011 8:20:01 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: The Bronze Titan

Just enough information for the Democrats to make their own wildfire.


4 posted on 09/07/2011 8:20:29 AM PDT by oyez ( America is being pimped.)
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To: The Bronze Titan
Did he also cut funding for prenatal care, animal shelters, and homeless vets?

They're more and more desperate...

5 posted on 09/07/2011 8:21:41 AM PDT by ken5050 (Save the EARTH...it's the ONLY planet with CHOCOLATE!!!)
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To: The Bronze Titan

Isn’t volunteer fire fighter funding more of a county thing?


6 posted on 09/07/2011 8:21:53 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (It's fun to play with your vision, but don't ever play with your eyes.-1970's PSA)
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To: The Bronze Titan
BUSH's PERRY'S FAULT.
7 posted on 09/07/2011 8:23:29 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: The Bronze Titan

Perry should have cut that number to zero funding. Why should the state pay volunteer fire depts? Why are the local communities not handling this themselves? If they want fire protection, they need to pony up. If not, then they need to load up on insurance and call it a day.


8 posted on 09/07/2011 8:24:51 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

It’s a local thing. They do get some funding from the state but I believe the majority comes from fundraising. I know I send our local VFD a check every year as I don’t normally attend their annual cook-off and auction that’s held to raise operating money for them.

But, really, this is desperate. If they could figure out any way to blame Perry for the disastrous lack of moisture this year that’s the actual culprit here then I’m sure they’d run that too.


9 posted on 09/07/2011 8:26:38 AM PDT by JoenTX (Don't Tread on Me)
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To: The Bronze Titan

He was for the fire department before he was against the fire departments. That has to count!!!!! Spin machine approaches.


10 posted on 09/07/2011 8:30:15 AM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Isn’t volunteer fire fighter funding more of a county thing?

Most funding is derived from taxes from either a designated Fire district or by a village or town. Funding from state is usually used to support training programs that unfortunately Texas is not alone in cutting.

Wilum47
District Secretary of my fire district.

11 posted on 09/07/2011 8:30:42 AM PDT by Wilum (Never loaded a nuke I didn't like)
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To: The Bronze Titan

Volunteer fire depts have bake sales BBQ dinners and all kind of fundraisers and always will.

This seems like the machine doing every thing it can to discredit Perry...

He hangs out with strippers and prostitues in Austin too don’t cha know.


12 posted on 09/07/2011 8:32:53 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man?)
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To: Lazlo in PA
-"Why should the state pay volunteer fire depts?

Are you going to let your ideological bent get in the way of common sense?

Because not all "local" communities have a sufficient base to cover the needs of emergency response and fire fighting. My son is a volunteer firefighter, he does not get paid 1 cent, and is out on calls almost every night for our town and surrounding towns. Get clue before you make comments like that.

Volunteer firefighters are the backbone of most of the communities in the country. Sorry, but you need money to operate and maintain the resource capabilities for emergency response.

13 posted on 09/07/2011 8:35:13 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: Rightly Biased

You, my friend are clueless also.


14 posted on 09/07/2011 8:36:16 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: The Bronze Titan
The Wildfires are Perry's fault. lol.

It's understood that you're on a full-blown anti-Perry Jihad, but do you really want to stoop as low as the left did during Katrina?

15 posted on 09/07/2011 8:38:11 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: The Bronze Titan

That’s why we tend not to have firefighters on disability running triathlons and body building like they do up north.


16 posted on 09/07/2011 8:39:37 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat, they sh#t on.)
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To: The Bronze Titan; Al B.; onyx; rintense; sarah fan UK; Brices Crossroads; Students4Palin

Oops!


17 posted on 09/07/2011 8:39:37 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: The Bronze Titan

Fire Departments are for the most part locally funded, normally, in most states.

What this should say is that of the amount of their funds that comes from the state that Gov Perry oversaw that number being cut by 75%.


18 posted on 09/07/2011 8:41:39 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: The Bronze Titan

Please point me to your posts about the candidate you DO SUPPORT?


19 posted on 09/07/2011 8:41:52 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: The Bronze Titan

According to KVUE-TV, the state of Texas, under Gov. Rick Perry, cut state funding for the volunteer fire departments that protect most of the state from wildfires. Firefighters have actually been dipping into their own pockets to fight fires.


Volunteer, sounds like local/county gov’t stuff to me. Not sure that the state pays fire fighting for the cities or counties.


20 posted on 09/07/2011 8:42:12 AM PDT by deport
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To: JoenTX
"But, really, this is desperate."

It's not "desperate". If your job performance record shows that you failed to have sufficient resources, and later demonstrates that you made the "wrong" decision, then you you are "stuck with the bill", good or bad!

A person's going out on a job interview, and we're supposed to review is job record for running his store. Now the store catches fire, and guess what happened to the fire fighting capability?

21 posted on 09/07/2011 8:42:26 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: The Bronze Titan
Why are you here, you throw a flaming pile of dung out there for Perry supporters to flame you on and then troll and insult them. Ann Coulter was totally right, We loved Sarah Palin for her detractors now we are growing to dislike her because of her insufferable fanboys. When she finally fishes or cuts bait, this can be settled and then you PlainBots can go back to bitching about the Republican party and using the term RINO five times in a sentence.
22 posted on 09/07/2011 8:43:46 AM PDT by pburgh01
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And the anti-Perry trolls say he does’nt cut government spending!

Which is it trolls?


23 posted on 09/07/2011 8:44:30 AM PDT by Grunthor
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To: The Bronze Titan

Let the market rule. I’m sure some private business will step up to put out the wildfires, and bill the citizens of Texas accordingly.


24 posted on 09/07/2011 8:44:30 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: deport
-"Volunteer, sounds like local/county gov’t stuff to me."

Yeah. You sure know a lot about 'volunteer' EMT and Fire response capability. Sorta like low priority "stuff".

25 posted on 09/07/2011 8:44:42 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: The Bronze Titan

Also, if 879 fire departments were sharing 30 million dollars in the past, that means on average they were getting only 34,000 a year from the state.

That’s not enough to pay for even one full time salary or one truck or even one squad van.

The huge bulk of their money was coming locally.


26 posted on 09/07/2011 8:44:50 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Wolfie
-"Let the market rule."

Some of you people are starting to sound downright embarrassing. Your ideological bent is blinding you, it's nauseating.

27 posted on 09/07/2011 8:46:49 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: Russ
NEWS ALERT: PERRY RESPONSIBLE FOR HURRICANES AND WILDFIRES!! INVOLVEMENT IN 9/11 ATTACK UNDER INVESTIGATION...

Only more government funding could have saved Texas from the wildfires! We actually have idiots making the same arguments for bigger government that liberals make.

Is there any evidence that fires were a result of lack of resources or slow response time from firefighters? Not that I have seen. Dry conditions and winds are the problem.

Some of the nonsense being posted about Perry, one would think one is at the Huffington Post.

28 posted on 09/07/2011 8:47:01 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Rightly Biased

“He hangs out with strippers and prostitues”

Then I post “Jesus hung out with thieves and slut and liars.” then an APT (anti-Perry-troll) posts that Grunthor compares Perry to Jesus Christ.

Because context means NOTHING to these people.


29 posted on 09/07/2011 8:48:29 AM PDT by Grunthor
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To: Dr. Sivana
Isn’t volunteer fire fighter funding more of a county thing?

Yes, just like hospital districts that get local tax dollars for their budgets.

30 posted on 09/07/2011 8:48:42 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, please let it rain in Texas. Amen.)
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To: JoenTX
It’s a local thing.

Do the wildfires know that? I'm guessing they don't.

31 posted on 09/07/2011 8:49:05 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: The Bronze Titan

So essentially, he did something that, had TX not been currently having wildfires, most FReepers would have thought was a good thing instead?


32 posted on 09/07/2011 8:49:07 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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To: Kazan

“We actually have idiots making the same arguments for bigger government that liberals make.”

The funny thing is that by the end of the day, the same people that bitch about Perry not cutting government enough, will be saying that he cut VFD state funding too much.

And they will never recognize their own hypocrisy.


33 posted on 09/07/2011 8:50:43 AM PDT by Grunthor
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To: The Bronze Titan
Because not all "local" communities have a sufficient base to cover the needs of emergency response and fire fighting.
Then that area doesn't get all the bells and whistles that other departments do! DUH! Believe it or not, every department doesn't need a 36' ladder truck, so the fire fighters do NOT need that training, even though MANY local departments ask for money for it - talk about stupid! I know because because I am a volunteer and I work with the budget board to see what funds we request!

My son is a volunteer firefighter, he does not get paid 1 cent, and is out on calls almost every night for our town and surrounding towns. Get clue before you make comments like that.
Talk about getting a "clue!" That's why it is called "VOLUNTEER!" If he wants to get paid, then hire on with some big city unit and enjoy your lifestyle, but don't complain about not getting "1 cent" when your son VOLUNTEERED his time! Duh!

If you would climb down off your "Rick Perry sucks all life from everything" soapbox for just a minute, you would know that MOST funding for volunteer fire departments is generated LOCALLY!! And if a department is getting the majority of it's funds from the state, then they should shut down and tell the locals to get better insurance or pony up some funds for their local volunteer fire department! Duh!
34 posted on 09/07/2011 8:51:27 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: The Bronze Titan

He could have funded them 200% - but it wouldn’t have made a single bit of difference when faced with fire conditions of this magnitude.


35 posted on 09/07/2011 8:52:07 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: The Bronze Titan

“Some of you people are starting to sound downright embarrassing. Your ideological bent is blinding you, it’s nauseating.”

How hard is it to post and look in the mirror at the same time?


36 posted on 09/07/2011 8:52:53 AM PDT by Grunthor
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To: pburgh01
-"Why are you here..."

To show the world the "PHONY" Perry! If you don't like it, too bad. It's a campaign. It's called "vetting". Truth hurts. Any factual errors, let me know!

37 posted on 09/07/2011 8:53:11 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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Contract Dispute Grounds Firefighting Planes...

Nearly half of the federal government’s firefighting air tankers are siting idle at a California airport, grounded by the Obama administration in a contract dispute just weeks before wildfires swept through Texas killing a mother and her child, and destroying 100,000 acres.

The massive blazes forced Texas Gov. and Republican presidential hopeful Rick Perry to abruptly call off a campaign appearance in South Carolina earlier this week to respond to the crisis, and may force him to cancel his first debate appearance Wednesday night.

The U.S. Forest Service terminated the contract with Aero Union; five weeks ago to operate seven P-3 Orions that are critical to the agency’s firefighting mission, leaving the federal government with 11 tankers under contract to help battle more than 50 large uncontained wildfires now burning nationwide.

That’s down from 40 tankers used by the Forest Service just a decade ago, according to Rep. Dan Lungren (R.-Calif.), chairman of the House Committee on Administration, who is challenging the decision to dismiss the largest provider of heavy air-tanker support to the federal government.

“We were certified to fly all season, but they just terminated us and threw 60 people out of work and left the country vulnerable to fires, as you can see right now in Texas,” said Britt Gourley, CEO for Aero Union.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=46009


38 posted on 09/07/2011 8:53:11 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: The Bronze Titan

And Why do you say so?


39 posted on 09/07/2011 8:53:18 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man?)
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To: xzins; The Bronze Titan
Also, if 879 fire departments were sharing 30 million dollars in the past, that means on average they were getting only 34,000 a year from the state.

That’s not enough to pay for even one full time salary or one truck or even one squad van.

The huge bulk of their money was coming locally.

Oh come on, you're ruining it for BT. It's so much more fun when people don't start thinking more deeply than the headline.

40 posted on 09/07/2011 8:53:33 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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To: The Bronze Titan

See, SARAH! would never have let this happen. If Alaska were on fire, she would have personally been out there, shooting it with a water cannon out of a helicopter.


41 posted on 09/07/2011 8:55:56 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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To: Grunthor

Well I wasn’t being anti-Perry, I was just thinking back to about a month ago and that ad that was run trying to drum up a “hottie or a stripper” that Perry was “with” it seems so many will do anything to discredit anyone except their “best bet to beat” the Kenyan.


42 posted on 09/07/2011 8:56:28 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man?)
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To: The Bronze Titan

So now bummer’s going to prevent Texas from fighting the fires so he can blame Perry.


43 posted on 09/07/2011 8:56:36 AM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: The Bronze Titan

Anything else we need to say against Perry, let it be said now, audibly — and edibly, because next year we will be eating those words.


44 posted on 09/07/2011 8:57:19 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Heavy the head that wears the tiara.)
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To: Jeff Head

Yeah, it’s definitely heading in to ‘deja-vu’ territory. What do you expect, another one coming out of Texas, take cover.


45 posted on 09/07/2011 8:57:28 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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Because not all "local" communities have a sufficient base to cover the needs of emergency response and fire fighting. My son is a volunteer firefighter, he does not get paid 1 cent, and is out on calls almost every night for our town and surrounding towns. Get clue before you make comments like that.

Volunteer firefighters are the backbone of most of the communities in the country. Sorry, but you need money to operate and maintain the resource capabilities for emergency response.

vol·un·teers plural 1. somebody who works for nothing: somebody who works without being paid

46 posted on 09/07/2011 8:58:09 AM PDT by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: Rightly Biased

I was not accusing you, per se. I was simply pointing out how any threads having to do with Perry quickly devolve into madness.


47 posted on 09/07/2011 8:59:13 AM PDT by Grunthor
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Except she didn’t stay on the job long enough to have to worry about making tough budget cuts under the 0bama depression.


48 posted on 09/07/2011 9:01:38 AM PDT by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: Grunthor

Yeah they seem too.

PDS is strong on FR


49 posted on 09/07/2011 9:02:09 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man?)
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To: Godzilla

Contract Dispute Grounds Firefighting Planes...

See post #38...

Nearly half of the federal government’s firefighting air tankers are siting idle at a California airport, grounded by the Obama administration in a contract dispute just weeks before wildfires swept through Texas killing a mother and her child, and destroying 100,000 acres.


50 posted on 09/07/2011 9:02:43 AM PDT by kcvl
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