Posted on 09/07/2011 11:14:03 AM PDT by AAABEST
Palin has immigration “opinions”...she’s never dealt with them in the real world.
I don’t think it’s on TV here in the Seattle area. I have searched my online listings a few times and it’s not there. Crazy. Guess I’ll have to watch on my computer and someone else can drive the kids to cheer and football tonight (I was going to DVR it).
[ You are flat out WRONG Hose! ]
LBJ and the other idiot JFK were big government republicans or better expressed “democrats”..
Big government republicans have always been democrats.. still are..
There is little difference between big government adherents no matter the “party”..
That is why?... partys are becoming obsolete..
Because they have come to mean nothing.. except to the mentally weak.. political groupies actually..
What was democrat may still be a democrat no matter the group they are aligned with..
I hope I am wrong.. but it seems I am not..
Juan McLame is not now or ever was a republican.. he is a democrat..
Democrats are FOR democracy.. Republicans are FOR a Republic..
Its all encapsulated in State Rights and 10th amendment..
Democrats want an all powerful federal central government with slave states.. AND..
Republicans want the federal government to be a SLAVE to the States..
I don’t trust Rich Perry.. like I don’t trust Myth Romney..
Too much blarney with switching eyes.. Used Jesus salesmen.. you know; like Bush..
Bachmann is the real deal.. genuine.. the real McCoy.. like; Palin..
Perry reminds me of Elmer Gantry.. who fooled many good ol’ boys..
HuH? To my knowledge neither one was EVER a republican! LBJ was from Texas and got elected to congress by VERY nefarious means! He was perhaps the third worst president of the twentieth century behind only Woodrow Wilson and FDR! Jimmuh CAAATA couldn't hold a candle to those guys but ALL of them were LIBERALS and not conservatives! I don't care for liberal republicans any more than I care for liberal democrats and I'm telling you, based on LONG observations of the man, that Rick Perry isn't one!
OK...just trying to do the math here... governor of Alaska who quit two years into her term... three term (10+ year) governor of Texas... I know I have just a public school education, but I do seem to recall hearing somewhere that 10 is greater than 2... I'm not trashing Sarah Palin here, so don't accuse me of that, but to say that she has the most experience out of this field of candidates is just plain wrong.
[ HuH? To my knowledge neither one was EVER a republican! ]
Party identification is just a word.. ideology is what counts..
Its what they DO not what they say..
Its who they ARE not what they claim to be....
You know.... as Arlin Spectre recently publicly displayed..
I suppose its possible one could be 20 percent democrat and 80 percent republican.. or vice versa..
How can you accurately measure something like that?..
Even though its TRUE.. Bachmann may be 5% democrat.. who knows..
I measure by the hairs on my nape...
How far they stand out during a speech is my measurement..
Perry crawls my nape.. but Newt doesn’t.. should but doesn’t..
That's it in a nutshell, and oh, what a big fat stupid immature girlscout cookie nutshell it is!
And what’s your point? She can’t have a stance on an issue just because she’s never dealt with it? Of course they’re “opinions”....
The most fundamental God-given right is the right to life - without which all other rights are meaningless.
So which presidential candidates are pro-life? In Iowa, those who took the Susan B. Anthony List pro-life leadership pledge include:
Those who refused to sign the pledge include candidates Herman Cain, Mitt Romney, Jon Huntsman and Gary Johnson.
The pro-life Pawlenty dropped out. The pro-life Rick Perry dropped in.
[Note: Perry has now signed the pledge, but wasn't running when candidates were first asked to do so. President Obama couldn't the sign the pledge—it's above his pay grade.]
(above a quote of Craig Huey)
So my question is, why would Romney refuse to sign the pledge?
There is stupidity at play here, but it is yours. Perry was born and raised in West Texas, which was solidly Democrat until the 80's and 90's. Perry himself said he never even met a Republican until he was 25 years old.
Democracy was is and always will be Mob Rule by mobsters..
He may want to be the head mobster.. like Romney OR Juan McLame..
Just pathetic...
All other states soon followed CA, but the 'progressive' Republicans were thrown out of office nationwide and soon thereafter, 'progressives' began the migration into the Democrat party. In the south however, that migration has taken quite a bit longer, as many conservative democrats have held out hoping to restore Democrat conservatism. But that just isn't going to happen any time soon.
[ There is stupidity at play here, but it is yours. ]
True; I am not very smart.. for I am a republican..
I voted for several Bushes and Juan McLaim.. who set the stage for a Marxist President..
Perry is better than Romney who is marginally better than Juan McLaim... all three being progressives..
I am dumb enough to vote for Bachmann because shes genuine.. the real deal.. you know honest..
It’s easy to have an opinion. Much harder if you’ve actually had to deal with it. Experience matters.
I think Zell Miller turned the light out on that movement. If there are ANY conservative democrats around today they are keeping a VERY low profile!
Good point, but incomplete. Since Reagan, we have seen a GOP that leans conservative fiscally, socially, and on national defense. The Dems have leaned liberal on fiscal, social and defense issues. But that is not how it has been traditionally. Prior to Reagan, the Dems were fiscally liberal and the Republicans were fiscally conservative. But how people were on social issues and national defense was much more related to where they lived than what party they belonged to. People from the northeast, the West Coast and the northern tier of states tended to be more liberal on social issues and defense issues, regardless of party. And the people in the South, midwest and mountain states tended to be more conservative on social issues and defense issues. That is why you had "Rockerfeller Republicans" (socially liberal and fiscally conservative) and "Southern Democrats" (socially conservative and strong on defense, yet fiscally more liberal).
This is why we get into problems when we try to define a "true conservative". Are we talking about a fiscal conservative? A social conservative? A national defense conservative? All three? If one must be all three to considered a "true conservative", and we are going to chase out anyone that does not measure up, we are in trouble. Because the number of people who would qualify in all three areas is a small minority of the population. It is the combination of fiscal conservatives, social conservatives and national defense conservatives - the "three legged stool" that Ronald Reagan built - that gives us the numbers to win elections and influence change. We can have some hard and fast requirements for our national leaders - pro-life is one for me - but we can't chase off everyone who does not agree with us on every point, or we will forever be a minority party with no power.
Thanks. It was definitely sincere.
Are you going to start one or could this be the LIVE THREAD?
“... a fiscal conservative? A social conservative? A national defense conservative? All three? If one must be all three to considered a “true conservative”, and we are going to chase out anyone that does not measure up, we are in trouble.”
You’re conflating the Presidential nominee or candidate with the “conservatives” that vote for them.
The trick is to do exactly what Reagan did...he was a fiscal, social, and national defense conservative: what he accomplished was to form a voting coalition of all three as his base of support.
It is not unreasonable that conservatives seek and attempt to nominate a “3 legged conservative”.
We will not get ever single issue perfect but they should be conservative generally in all 3 areas.
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