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Australia Strikes Christ's Birth as History Marker
www.CBN.com ^ | September 6, 2011 | CBNNews.com

Posted on 09/07/2011 1:18:37 PM PDT by Ravnagora

Australian history books will no longer use Jesus' birth as a reference point for dates, to the outrage of some religious and political leaders.

Under new government curriculum, the terms BC, translated "Before Christ," and AD, translated "The Year of Our Lord," will be replaced with neutral, non-religious language.

The land down under will now use the politically correct BCE and CE, meaning "Before Common Era" and "Common Era" respectively.

The terms are popular in academic and scientific publications.

Archbishop of Sydney Peter Jensen has condemned the move, calling it an "intellectually absurd attempt to write Christ out of human history."

Christopher Pyne, with Australia's Liberal National Party, also criticized the decision.

"Australia is what it is today because of the foundations of our nation in the Judeo-Christian heritage that we inherited from Western civilization," he said.

"Kowtowing to political correctness by the embarrassing removal of AD and BC in our national curriculum is of a piece with the fundamental flaw of trying to deny who we are as a people," he added.

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TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: australia; christ; christianheritage; globalism; history; judeochristian; secularization; sourcetitlenoturl

1 posted on 09/07/2011 1:18:43 PM PDT by Ravnagora
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To: Ravnagora

I call it

BCE - Before CHRISTian Era
CE - CHRISTian Era


2 posted on 09/07/2011 1:20:45 PM PDT by rwa265 (Christ my Cornerstone)
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To: Ravnagora

How long ‘till they switch to the muslim calender?


3 posted on 09/07/2011 1:20:58 PM PDT by himno hero (Obamas theme...Death to America...The crusaders will pay!)
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To: Ravnagora
I would not want to be these people when they will stand before the throne of God ob judgment day. They will be wholly without excuse and there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth.
4 posted on 09/07/2011 1:23:30 PM PDT by Obadiah (Okay, so what's the speed of dark?)
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To: Ravnagora

How about BO and AO........Before Obamugabe...............


5 posted on 09/07/2011 1:23:47 PM PDT by Red Badger ("Treason doth never prosper.... What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.")
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To: Ravnagora

Oz only did this because To use BM would have resulted in seeting rage boys.


6 posted on 09/07/2011 1:24:05 PM PDT by sono (What Rough Beast ... Slouches Toward Bethlehem To Be Born?)
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To: himno hero

Easy. Just subtract 666 years.................


7 posted on 09/07/2011 1:24:27 PM PDT by Red Badger ("Treason doth never prosper.... What's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.")
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To: Ravnagora
What a shame for Australia. But we KNOW that these kind of things must come to pass. Jesus let us know what will happen before His return. And make no mistake... all the signs are here and the time is nigh. This is just the beginning of sorrows.

The whole world has denied the Messiah in every form imaginable. But let it. "Let the wicked be wicked still." He said, "If they hated me, then they will hate you." The Word of the LORD is true and those who deny Him, he will deny before God.

8 posted on 09/07/2011 1:25:34 PM PDT by BigFinn (BigHat wisdom: Always drink upstream from the herd.)
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To: Ravnagora

and just when does “Common Era” start?


9 posted on 09/07/2011 1:30:05 PM PDT by mockingbyrd
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To: rwa265

I suppose the modern pagans could go back to numbering the years by the old Roman system, and get Christ out of it entirely since that’s what they’re determined to do. That would make this year 2764 AUC.

(Ab urbe condita (related with Anno Urbis Conditae: AUC or a.u.c. or a.u.[1]) is Latin for “from the founding of the City (Rome)”,[2] traditionally set in 753 BC. AUC is a year-numbering system used by some ancient Roman historians to identify particular Roman years.)


10 posted on 09/07/2011 1:31:15 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Ravnagora

“Common Era” is Communist Era.


11 posted on 09/07/2011 1:32:54 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: mockingbyrd

The year that Jesus was born!


12 posted on 09/07/2011 1:34:47 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Ravnagora
Under new government curriculum, the terms BC, translated "Before Christ," and AD, translated "The Year of Our Lord," will be replaced with neutral, non-religious language.

The land down under will now use the politically correct BCE and CE, meaning "Before Common Era" and "Common Era" respectively.

The terms are popular in academic and scientific publications.

Archbishop of Sydney Peter Jensen has condemned the move, calling it an "intellectually absurd attempt to write Christ out of human history."

There are many who believe that AD anno domini
would suggest that the Roman "church" created their
god to have not existed before the birth of Yah'shua(Jesus).

All followers of Yah'shua know that as YHvH,
He is the creator of the universe.

He, YHvH created this space-time continuum.

Hence to many followers it(AD) on it's face is blasphemous.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

13 posted on 09/07/2011 1:35:28 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

“Common era”—

someone asked, “What was common about it?”


14 posted on 09/07/2011 1:36:50 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Ravnagora

How about using 2008 as the new marker. We can say Year 3 AWWTF, as in Year 3 “After We Were Totally F’d.”


15 posted on 09/07/2011 1:36:50 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Argus

Today’s liberals would want to renumber in a different way.

Perhaps 1970 could be re-set to be the year 1, in celebration of the first earth day and environmental activism.

1964 could become the new year 1, in honor of the Civil Rights Act.

2004 could become the new year 1, as 2004 was the year that homosexual marriage came to America, in Massachusetts.

2008 could become the new year 1, as that was the year of Obama’s election.

1966 could become the new year 1, in honor of the founding of the National Organization of Women.

Yep, the weakness of this BCE and CE designation is still that the birth of Christ is the underlying starting point.
In order to do this properly, liberals need the starting point to be a monumental date in the history of some liberal cause or event or person, not referencing Christ.


16 posted on 09/07/2011 1:39:47 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: UriĀ’el-2012
"There are many who believe that AD anno domini would suggest that the Roman "church" created their god to have not existed before the birth of Yah'shua(Jesus)."

Gosh, that sure is interesting, Uri’el-2012. There are many things in this world that I don't know (more things that I don't know than I do, come to think of it) but --- in my many decades of life, I have never met even ONE person so foolish as to think that "Roman" "Church" people don't believe God to have existed before Jesus.

That would take a truly eye-rolling level of ignorance.

And you say there are "many" who are thus abysmally uninformed?

Could you name two or three?

17 posted on 09/07/2011 1:48:32 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Paciencia todo lo alcanza. Todo Dios basta.)
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To: Ravnagora
Why not use the day that the solar system crosses the galactic plane as the starting point for a new world calender?

GMD - Galactic Meridian Date

I hear that would be Dec 12,2010

/sarc

18 posted on 09/07/2011 1:53:51 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Ravnagora

>> “The land down under will now use the politically correct BCE and CE, meaning Before Christian Epoch, and Christian Epoch. <<

Repaired, Gratis!


19 posted on 09/07/2011 2:00:56 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Sarah Palin - 2012 !)
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To: rwa265
I call it

BC: Before Christ
AD: Anno Domini

20 posted on 09/07/2011 2:03:14 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012
There are many who believe that AD anno domini would suggest that the Roman "church" created their god to have not existed before the birth of Yah'shua(Jesus).

BWAHAHAHAHAHahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

"Many" ????

ROFL!

Those "many" are a far sillier and stupider bunch, and far more removed from reality, than these CE/BCE idiots in Aussieland.

21 posted on 09/07/2011 2:07:03 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Uri'el>There are many who believe that AD anno domini would suggest that the Roman "church" created their god to have not existed before the birth of Yah'shua(Jesus).

Gosh, that sure is interesting, Uri’el-2012. There are many things in this world that I don't know (more things that I don't know than I do, come to think of it) but --- in my many decades of life, I have never met even ONE person so foolish as to think that "Roman" "Church" people don't believe God to have existed before Jesus.

That would take a truly eye-rolling level of ignorance.

And you say there are "many" who are thus abysmally uninformed?

Could you name two or three?

Anyone who reads the Holy WORD and believes it.

There is only ONE YHvH; Yah'shua said so in Mark 12:29

YHvH is our Elohim and he is ONE.

YHvH is the creator of the universe.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
22 posted on 09/07/2011 2:14:09 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: BigFinn
Maybe, but it'll be the twelfth of never before Australians are prohibited from praying at military funerals
23 posted on 09/07/2011 2:15:46 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Don’t expect a straight answer from The Unprintable One.


24 posted on 09/07/2011 2:53:22 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Thank you, my dear Bustard. I should have known.


25 posted on 09/07/2011 3:00:58 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Paciencia todo lo alcanza. Todo Dios basta.)
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To: rwa265

Dang, I was about to say that.


26 posted on 09/07/2011 3:47:00 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Ravnagora; rwa265

I use

Before Christ Entered
Christ Enters

But that’s just to annoy idiots.


27 posted on 09/07/2011 6:25:27 PM PDT by Ro_Thunder (I sure hope there is a New Morning in America soon. All this hope and change is leaving me depressed)
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To: mockingbyrd
and just when does “Common Era” start?

That's what I ask them too...

28 posted on 09/07/2011 7:27:11 PM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Those "many" are a far sillier and stupider bunch, and far more removed from reality, than these CE/BCE idiots in Aussieland.

BCE/CE is a notation used by Educated people.

BC/AD is insisted on by the Pagan Roman "church"
created at Nicaea by the Pagan Roman Pontiff :
Constantine.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
29 posted on 09/08/2011 9:22:59 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012
BCE/CE is a notation used by Educated people self-righteous pinheads.

There.

Fixed it for ya.

Yer welcome.

30 posted on 09/08/2011 10:16:09 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Fixed it for ya. Yer welcome.

Clearly a self-identified Twit

31 posted on 09/08/2011 10:23:23 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

Clearly, anyone who thinks that the “Pagan Roman Pontiff:
Constantine” “created” the “Pagan Roman ‘church’” at Nicea does identify himself as a twit.


32 posted on 09/08/2011 10:38:37 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Ravnagora
Idiotic as they are still marking the years from the time of Christ.

Sort of like saying “We are breaking from Rome by no longer calling it the 350th year from the founding of the Republic. We now call it the 350th year of the ‘common era’.”

Great.

33 posted on 09/08/2011 10:44:48 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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