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How Rick Perry Won The Debate
NPR ^ | September 8, 2011 | Jonathan Chait, New Republic

Posted on 09/08/2011 5:57:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: The Bronze Titan

Thank you. I’ll take a look when I’m in a youtube friendly environment.


181 posted on 09/08/2011 12:51:33 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: phillyfanatic
NPR thinks a real man will turn off voters. They think that the MSM will be able to sell Bama again as a clever, suave, multicultural, intellect , elitist who can rule the world.


182 posted on 09/08/2011 1:12:43 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: wagglebee; cuban leaf; wmfights; P-Marlowe; xzins
I think the age should be raised, but from a practical perspective it will need to be phased in over time.

There is a problem with raising the age, even if it's phased in over time. There are people in the workforce that labor physically. You won't see to many cement contractors in their late 60's. The ultimate solution is to gradually move away from the ponzi scheme and into privatized accounts. The era of the defined benefit pension is dead in the private sector. It does not work.

183 posted on 09/08/2011 1:15:12 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights

Yep. I didn’t plan on needing SS. Then a divorce after a long term marriage wiped me out. Now I will have to live on it. Fortunately, my career is non-physical. But that also means I was blind to what you brought up.

I do, however, think that people are going to find out the hard way that “if it is to be it is up to me” very soon, though. Those will not be salad days.


184 posted on 09/08/2011 1:24:58 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: wagglebee; cuban leaf; wmfights; P-Marlowe; xzins
Schemes like Social Security and Medicare work just fine if the government can declare certain people to be "useless eaters" and then eliminate them.

Scary, but true.

I think this is a fight that Gov. Perry will win. In the short term all the "establishment types" will talk about "toxic" calling SS a Ponzi Scheme is, but in reality that is exactly what it is. The next step after revealing his opponents for being timid is to offer solutions. I would bet Gov. Perry will begin rolling out solutions early next year.

If he can stay on track we could end up with a POTUS who has a mandate to actually fix SS, Medicare, and end obamacare. We won't have that if we get a POTUS who just says whats politically acceptable.

185 posted on 09/08/2011 1:27:58 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights

Isnt that the truth. All day long, what I have heard in rebuttal is, “ No its not. Its legal.”

Good argument.

OK, “It’s a legal Ponzi scheme.”


186 posted on 09/08/2011 1:30:15 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ok, just to review. Here is a list of things that are NOT rights: A home, Health care, and a job.)
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To: VRW Conspirator; cuban leaf

Perry puts the audience at ease. He draws you in. While others appear to be programed and anxious (not so much Newt) that they’ll make a mistake, Perry appears relaxed and comfortable in his skin — not on pins and needles that one slip can kill his campaign.

He’s not afraid. That is attractive in a president.


187 posted on 09/08/2011 1:35:13 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: cuban leaf
I do, however, think that people are going to find out the hard way that “if it is to be it is up to me” very soon, though. Those will not be salad days.

I agree.

It is a real disservice to people to promise something that ultimately can't pay out as it promised. I think Pres. Bush was on the right track with privatizing a part of each persons SS account. Ultimately we need to return to the idea of personal accountability, but it's not practical if the govt keeps putting up barriers.

188 posted on 09/08/2011 1:36:31 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Vermont Lt
PERFECT!
189 posted on 09/08/2011 1:38:42 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: The Bronze Titan
Very Good catch, Bronze. Clueless is right. In response to the question, Perry laughably restates the obvious (essentially repeating the "adventurism" quote he's asked about); then, completely ignoring the question of President Bush's military interventon, he praises President Obama's military actions regarding Bin Laden and anti-terrorist strikes. He then immediately launches into a jarringly incongruous remark about the death of Keynesian economics.

Shades of Billy Madison: Everyone is how dumber ...

190 posted on 09/08/2011 1:42:50 PM PDT by AHerald ("Do not fear, only believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: AHerald; The Bronze Titan
Re post #190: Shades of Billy Madison: Everyone is how dumber ...

LOL. Hoisted by my own you know what ... should be now.

191 posted on 09/08/2011 1:46:27 PM PDT by AHerald ("Do not fear, only believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: wagglebee; cuban leaf
Instead what happened was over a decade of unusually high population growth during the Baby Boom. However, Social Security was still viable as long as the Baby Boomers had children at normal rates.

THE problem with SS is/was that it was set up as a Ponzi scheme to begin with! The bahstid Congresses took ALL the excess of SS revenue (paid out what was due with plenty left over) and spent the rest, year in and year out-Repub or Dem. Oh, wait, they "borrowed" from the trust fund and left an IOU. Wink, Wink.

It was set up as a cash cow from the start!

I've heard estimates of what if they did not spend the money and actually kept the excess in the trust fund; there would be enough to satisfy the program for 30 years, IIRC.

It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native criminal class except Congress. - Mark Twain

192 posted on 09/08/2011 3:06:22 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The unemployment problem only can be solved when Obama is unemployed.)
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