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Is Michele Bachmann finished in the GOP race?
CBS News ^ | 09/08/2011 | Brian Montopoli

Posted on 09/08/2011 7:33:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

For a while there, Rep. Michele Bachmann seemed to be all anyone could talk about in the race for the Republican presidential nomination.

Telegenic, controversial and aligned with fiscal and social conservatives, she soaked up media coverage and seemed to be emerging as the GOP base's preferred alternative to Mitt Romney - particularly since Mike Huckabee decided to forgo the race and Sarah Palin continued waffling about whether she would jump in.

Then came August 13. It was, in once sense, a triumphant day for Bachmann: She won the (albeit overhyped) Iowa straw poll, generating headlines about how she was a top-tier contender with a legitimate shot at the nomination. But August 13 was also the day that Texas governor Rick Perry decided to throw his ten-gallon hat into the race.

Ever since then, Bachmann has steadily faded. Perry shot to the front of the polls on the strength of his dual establishment/base appeal, while Bachmann sank back to third or fourth, alongside Ron Paul. Unable to capitalize on her straw poll momentum, she shook up her campaign staff, removing campaign manager Ed Rollins - who promptly declared the contest a two-man race between Perry and Bachmann.

Wednesday's debate was Bachmann's chance to show she had come up with some sort of plan to regain some semblance of momentum. And despite a strong performance in past debates, she let the opportunity pass her by. While Perry and Romney sparred, a sbdued Bachmann failed to get in any memorable lines and looked like a footnote who belonged with the also-rans, not the contenders.

In the spin room after the debate, Rollins - who is still with the Bachmann campaign - tried to frame Bachmann's unmemorable debate performance as no big deal.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bachmann; edrollins; finished; michelebachmann; potus; rollins; rollinsized; smellslikemitt
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1 posted on 09/08/2011 7:34:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes, Ed Rollins did his job.


2 posted on 09/08/2011 7:35:45 AM PDT by jennychase
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To: SeekAndFind

IMO, she’s being ignored out of the POTUS race. VP is another story.


3 posted on 09/08/2011 7:36:39 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Perry/Bachmann 2012 - they can share hair care products.)
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To: jennychase

I have to agree. God bless her.


4 posted on 09/08/2011 7:37:32 AM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: jennychase
when will they ever learn?

old age and treachery trumps youth and enthusiasm every time

5 posted on 09/08/2011 7:39:40 AM PDT by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common - Voltaire)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think she is. I think she’ll crumble under the scrutiny of a Presidential Election. She may make a decent cabinet member, but might be a bit of a stretch for VP but it could happen considering Obama’s record of failure.


6 posted on 09/08/2011 7:40:59 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: jennychase

Ed Rollins.....well done thy good and faithful servant!


7 posted on 09/08/2011 7:40:59 AM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: SeekAndFind
Bachmann sank back to third or fourth, alongside Ron Paul

Ouch.

8 posted on 09/08/2011 7:43:38 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: SeekAndFind

No, she has not faded.

Yesterday was a scrimmage with the oppossing players “setup”.

She isn’t any more faded than the others.

Just hang in there Michelly.


9 posted on 09/08/2011 7:43:40 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not at all. Bachmann’s a better than a Romney and the pack of political candidates lesser than Romney. The race has boiled down to Bachmann and Perry. And dear Sarah when she jumps in.

But for debates we need to keep Cain and Gingrich in there too. They are our defense line against evil moderators.


10 posted on 09/08/2011 7:43:43 AM PDT by bvw
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To: SeekAndFind

Was Bachmann ever in the race?


11 posted on 09/08/2011 7:45:04 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (2012 is the opportunity to get rid of Obama and his Empire of Lies.)
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To: bvw

I thought Michelle looked very presidential last night. Perry was a huge disappointment. I was looking forward to seeing him in action, but he proved to be shallow and unprepared. His hesitancy in answering questions seemed to show a lack of core convictions.


12 posted on 09/08/2011 7:46:14 AM PDT by chickadee
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To: SeekAndFind

I wouldn’t count on it.

Conservatives who believe the garbage being spewed by the media are busy watching Oprah and waiting for the media to tell them who to vote for.


13 posted on 09/08/2011 7:46:28 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bachmann was never anything more than a placeholder for a credible conservative candidate. Whether Perry is as conservative as he’s made out to be might still be an open-ended question, but it’s quite obvious people are more likely to buy into him as conservative enough far more than they’ll accept the zero relevant experience of Bachmann.


14 posted on 09/08/2011 7:46:53 AM PDT by kevkrom (This space for rent.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Short answer? Yes.

On a side note, regardless of who the front runner ends up being, if he beats Obammy, he would do well to assign cabinet positions to the others seeking nomination or helping him get there.
15 posted on 09/08/2011 7:46:57 AM PDT by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country. LOOKING FOR ROLEPLAYERS. Check Profile.)
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To: chickadee

yes.


16 posted on 09/08/2011 7:47:22 AM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: SeekAndFind
Sarah Palin’s strategy of holding back her jump into the race while all of the rookie elbows were flailing around has kept her nose from being bloodied. She continues to be right on track and has now had a chance to listen to and observe the field. After she announces this month, she will be in a great position to take on the top dogs without the distraction of dealing with the soon to be gone also-rans.
17 posted on 09/08/2011 7:47:29 AM PDT by JPG (Palin '12)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is not all Bachmann’s fault. She had a great performance in SC where she had the opportunity to speak at length. Last night she was largely ignored.


18 posted on 09/08/2011 7:47:34 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma ( You cannot elevate Palin by tearing down Perry)
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To: SeekAndFind
Hmmm, SeeBS thinks she stunk, huh?
Her responses were cogent and (mainly) to the point. The moderators sort of squeezed her out a bit - heck, they gave more face time to Ron Paul!
She may not be the Republican nominee, but I don't think anyone on that stage will be either........
19 posted on 09/08/2011 7:48:34 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: SeekAndFind
She was . . . not good.

Her brain seemed to be as botoxed as her face.

20 posted on 09/08/2011 7:48:46 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is silly. Last night the focus was on Perry, his first debate. Bachmann did a good job. Is she a long shot, yeah but it was not a FATAL night, in spite of the MSM wishes.


21 posted on 09/08/2011 7:49:10 AM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: chickadee

There was hesitancy on the part of Perry occasionally but when we analyze what was said, Perry was the one who showed the courage and correct positions on global warming, social security and the death penalty. The guy has guts and has to scare the daylights out of Obama.


22 posted on 09/08/2011 7:50:05 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma ( You cannot elevate Palin by tearing down Perry)
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To: chickadee

People forget how hard the democrats have tried to defeat Michele Bachmann in Minnesota yet she’s always been there at the end.

The left spent something like $20 million trying to defeat her last year.


23 posted on 09/08/2011 7:50:35 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: jennychase

Ed Rollins certainly had sabotage of the Bachmann campaign in mind. But was the damage he did permanent?

At this point, probably not. In fact, just about any one of the candidates remaining in the field could still turn this around for themselves. There is still a lot more emotion than substance in these debates, but slowly, a concensus is emerging.

Obama must go. Nothing will happen until that one fact has been settled for good and all. The only question, what is the best strategy and agenda to pursue to achieve that end?


24 posted on 09/08/2011 7:50:36 AM PDT by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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To: JPG

IF Palin gets in, some may look at her strategy as being brilliant and some may look at it as being cowardly to not get in an be subject to the same barbs and questions as the others.


25 posted on 09/08/2011 7:52:11 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma ( You cannot elevate Palin by tearing down Perry)
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To: SeekAndFind

She was finished before she got started.


26 posted on 09/08/2011 7:52:38 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I like her but she proves how irrelevant the Iowa straw poll is...just a test on how your staff can buy votes or turn out ones cronies(Ron Paul).She is fading fast!!!
27 posted on 09/08/2011 7:54:26 AM PDT by ontap
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To: SeekAndFind
The media is wishing her away.

Are we gonna allow them to pick our candidates again?

28 posted on 09/08/2011 7:55:25 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: jennychase
Maybe, but who made the decision to hire Ed? Anyone should have been able to look at Ed's record and see the absence of any great victories since the Gubernatorial race in New Jersey with Kristy Todd Whitman and that was 15 years ago. Ed was well beyond his prime in his ability.

Part of vetting a candidate is how well they do in selecting a campaign manager.

Truth is, after Perry got in, I don't think Bachmann ever stood a chance. She got her support as the default conservative.
29 posted on 09/08/2011 7:55:31 AM PDT by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Ouch.


30 posted on 09/08/2011 7:55:48 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: SeekAndFind

She got rid of Rollins.

IMHO she should be welcomed back in out of the cold.


31 posted on 09/08/2011 7:56:02 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

To be honest, I was somewhat impressed with Romney. I have never liked the man, but his responses to questions about border security and jobs were quite good. I am having a hard time getting past Romneycare, but now could just barely stand having to vote for him if he gets the nom.

Perry has too many questions that he doesn’t address well. His support of mandatory HPV vaccinations is chilling to me. No conservative would support something like that. I have no problem with the death penalty, so his tepid defense of that didn’t cut much ice with me.

I rate them, based on last night’s performance 1) Bachmann 2) Romney 3) Perry.

Paul is always fun to watch, but I would never vote for the guy for Prez.


32 posted on 09/08/2011 7:57:30 AM PDT by chickadee
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To: SeekAndFind

She roiled me when she said 47% of blacks don’t have jobs. Hell, they refure to work in school, too. Not all of course.


33 posted on 09/08/2011 7:57:48 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind

I wish she weren’t going to do a rebuttal tomight. I wish she’d just ignore Obama since we finally got the rest of the republicans to ignore him. sheesh!


34 posted on 09/08/2011 7:59:20 AM PDT by CAluvdubya
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To: SeekAndFind

She’s done. I want to learn more about Rubino because the present lot of candidates just aren’t getting the job done. Cain is the biggest dissapointment.


35 posted on 09/08/2011 7:59:30 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (Congress doesn't care a damn about "we the people")
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To: BuffaloJack
Was Bachmann ever in the race?

Not really!

36 posted on 09/08/2011 8:02:12 AM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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To: SeekAndFind
It's still very early in the campaign, and we must consider both the source of this report as well as the MSM outlet that produced and moderated the debate last night.

PMSNBC has an interest in who ultimately ends up as the Republican nominee. They want a milquetoast candidate to go up against Obama, so that their voters will be more committed to vote on election day. They don't want conservative voters to have more forward momentum than the union goons, leftists, racists and other filthy radicals who will be buying votes and stuffing ballot boxes.

The focus was on Perry since he's the new kid on the block; and, being the sexist pigs that liberals are, they put Perry up against the man who was closest behind him in polls.

That said, the dope with the yellow tie last night needs to drop out and go order take out Chinese food, "in their language."

37 posted on 09/08/2011 8:04:00 AM PDT by onemiddleamerican (FUBO and all your terrorist buddies)
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To: GOPsterinMA

No way she is a VP pick...you can take that to the bank..


38 posted on 09/08/2011 8:06:04 AM PDT by ken5050 (Save the EARTH...it's the ONLY planet with CHOCOLATE!!!)
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To: chickadee
I am glad Romney came off well. We have to get past this idea that we hate one of our own. As I watched last night, I was proud to be a Republican and we are in far better hands with any of them that was on that stage last night than we are with Obama. I'd even rather have Ron Paul than Obama.

LOL, we humans are funny. Here you thought Bachmann won and others think she did herself in.

39 posted on 09/08/2011 8:09:24 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma ( You cannot elevate Palin by tearing down Perry)
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To: ken5050

Yeah, I thought she was, but I’m leaning in your direction now.


40 posted on 09/08/2011 8:12:49 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Perry/Bachmann 2012 - they can share hair care products.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Surely, you jest. You think she has NOT been on the receiving end of slights and barbs? Are you serious?


41 posted on 09/08/2011 8:13:07 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Bovina Sancta!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have never seen Palin “waffling” - interesting choice of a word to disparage her. If the current lineup does not lead to producing a strong Conservative candidate - Palin will get in. In her heart - I think she is hoping there is someone who will emerge with her values and commitment to restoring this nation’s liberty loving character - but if duty calls - she has a servant’s heart.


42 posted on 09/08/2011 8:14:39 AM PDT by Tweeker
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To: SeekAndFind
Just heard Chris Wallace answer a question regarding Michelle - why she earlier seemed relevant but slipped into the background last night.

He then stated that she was asked her FIRST question a mere 19 minutes into the debate!

He mentioned that in a similar situation, Rick Santorum interrupted the earlier debate to demand to be included, indicating that Bachmann, in failing to do so, missed her chance to promote herself when she was ignored.

I don't know that I agree w/Wallace (whom I dislike intensely as being the carbon copy of his dad, a sniveling smart-ass, looking his nose down on everyone not him) because these "debates" are really anything but.

I've not had speech nor debate since high school but do remember the structure of debate and nothing that has happened so far has in any way allowed significant candidates to "show their stuff!"

To give so much time to Jon Huntsman was absurd and what a jerk, next to Chris Wallace, Huntsman makes Wallace seem almost pleasant.

43 posted on 09/08/2011 8:15:06 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Well first of all (giggle), one must suspect the motives of the person who posted a CBS article putting down Michele. The headline alone gives one pause. There are those who support someone else and are only too happy to say it’s over for Bachmann. I think she is the Energizer bunny. Stay tuned:)


44 posted on 09/08/2011 8:15:42 AM PDT by chickadee
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To: SeekAndFind

Sarah Palin continued waffling about whether she would jump in.”

Not according to many here. She’s totally in, she’s going to walk away with it, and you are a fool rino if you don’t buy that. (Sarah’s coming, and you have NO IDEA what the tsunami is going to be like!).

Maybe so.

But at least a little, teensy weensy amount of skepticism is not irrational at this stage....

We’ll see soon enough. Until then, we’ll enjoy the speculation, even if it is rather heavyhanded at times...


45 posted on 09/08/2011 8:21:41 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: SeekAndFind

Nice lady, good for the debates, out of her league. She simply doesn’t have the experience needed.

Surely we’ve learned that after electing the current disaster.


46 posted on 09/08/2011 8:23:57 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: chickadee

He was just trying to remeber which set of core convictions to fake.


47 posted on 09/08/2011 8:24:10 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: cripplecreek

People forget how hard the democrats have tried to defeat Michele Bachmann in Minnesota yet she’s always been there at the end.

The left spent something like $20 million trying to defeat her last year.”

Hopefully she will see the reality soon enough and stay in Congress.....


48 posted on 09/08/2011 8:24:10 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: chickadee
He was just trying to remember which set of core convictions to display.
49 posted on 09/08/2011 8:24:42 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Sacajaweau
Don't get to "roiled" about that 47%; I'm certain that it is true and for some of the reasons that you state but the ones who had truly wished to work at something (they've been given sham educations for so long that the males, as a group, have virtually zero skills and spend much of their teen years looking to sports' stars, hip-hop thugs and pimps as "successful") have been squeezed out of the job market by illegal aliens.

Yes, the employers claim that the illegals work harder, have a better work ethic, etc. but again, I trace that back to the failure of the education system that refuses to educate black children - black males suffer the most from this criminal act perpetrated by our beloved Dept. of Education (NEA!)

50 posted on 09/08/2011 8:25:38 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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