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One sickened by McDonald's fumes dies
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Posted on 09/08/2011 9:14:04 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: rawhide
Hope this is a cleaning accident and nothing more...
Haven’t eaten at a McD’s in years. If they brought back the Big Mac For $1 special they used to have (what...10yrs ago?), I’d head there on foot right now.
To: umgud
Wrong mixture of common cleaning supplies produced chlorine gas?Bleach and lye --> chlorine gas?
To: rawhide
"Officials suspect cleaning chemicals in the restroom are to blame, but a specific cause had not been determined, Simmons said."
If cleaning agents are involved, they were brought together (ammonia and bleach) by someone who knew what would result. If by accident, they should have found a dead employee slumped over his bucket and mop.
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posted on
09/08/2011 10:09:31 AM PDT
by
PowderMonkey
(WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
To: PowderMonkey; All
Since there is a pungent odor associated with mixing these types of chemicals, then difficulty breathing, a question of why was the McD not evacuated and authorities not called sooner? Anyone know? Did someone attempt to empty a container where the chemicals were supposedly mixed? Have any witnesses been spoken with?
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posted on
09/08/2011 10:27:03 AM PDT
by
no-to-illegals
(Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
To: rawhide; All
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posted on
09/08/2011 10:33:59 AM PDT
by
no-to-illegals
(Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
To: rawhide
I wonder if it was carbon monoxide?
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posted on
09/08/2011 10:36:28 AM PDT
by
wintertime
(I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
To: rawhide
Simmons said the firefighters who first arrived smelled an unusual odor,
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Odor? Then it definitely was not carbon monoxide.
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posted on
09/08/2011 10:37:33 AM PDT
by
wintertime
(I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
To: PowderMonkey
If cleaning agents are involved, they were brought together (ammonia and bleach) by someone who knew what would result. If by accident, they should have found a dead employee slumped over his bucket and mop.
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Good point! You win the “Mr. Monk Award” of the year!
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posted on
09/08/2011 10:39:19 AM PDT
by
wintertime
(I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
To: no-to-illegals
I don’t even understand why the firemen were there to begin with.
Didn’t say anything about someone calling them, or seeing something wrong, etc. It’s almost as if firemen were just there for lunch.
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posted on
09/08/2011 10:45:21 AM PDT
by
the OlLine Rebel
(Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
To: the OlLine Rebel
There does appear to be much missing in the reports. Unknown after unknown. Autopsy will provide some information. MHO ... that autopsy should be double time.
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posted on
09/08/2011 11:05:24 AM PDT
by
no-to-illegals
(Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
To: PowderMonkey
When I worked at McD there were at least 4 occasions when guys accidentally mixed bleach and ammonia. None of them wound up doing more damage than giving the person in question a viscous headache, but they all did it in large rooms too. It would be easy to do on accident and walk away, like to clean a toilet (dump them in the toilet and let them get some soak). It’s a tempting mixture for the uninformed cleaner, they both have very desirable cleaning properties, generally the 2 best cleaners in the building. And you don’t generally have the brightest and best working in fast food.
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posted on
09/08/2011 11:14:47 AM PDT
by
discostu
(keep on keeping on)
To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Couldn’t be, there were survivors.
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posted on
09/08/2011 11:56:50 AM PDT
by
MCF
To: hoosierham
the management of an upscale restaraunt removed and banned one of those from their stores,because if only one of the two are used,either is perfectly safe. Same situation where I used to work: cleanser (containing bleach) was still on the custodial supplies stock list, but ammonia had been dropped.
We had a good custodian who bought his own ammonia.
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posted on
09/08/2011 2:12:49 PM PDT
by
Tea Party Hobbit
(The RINOs lack all conviction, and the Dems are full of passionate intensity)
To: umgud
Your right on....I have heard of people mixing 2 different chemicals to clean toilets and died from the gas’s released. Got to be careful with glues also...I do crafts and accidently used two different glue’s and you could see the chemical reaction that floated up into to the air...never made that mistake again...
To: IamConservative
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