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Surface-To-Air Missiles Looted From Libyan Arms Depot (SA-24)
outsidethebeltway.com ^ | Sept 7, 2001 | Doug Mataconis

Posted on 09/08/2011 11:45:05 AM PDT by bayouranger

Well, this is something that could be a problem: A potent stash of Russian-made surface-to-air missiles is missing from a huge Tripoli weapons warehouse amid reports of weapons looting across war-torn Libya. They are Grinch SA-24 shoulder-launched missiles, also known as Igla-S missiles, the equivalent of U.S.-made Stinger missiles. A CNN team and Human Rights Watch found dozens of empty crates marked with packing lists and inventory numbers that identified the items as Igla-S surface-to-air missiles. The list for one box, for example, written in English and Russian, said it had contained two missiles, with inventory number “Missile 9M342,” and a power source, inventory number “Article 9B238.” Grinch SA-24s are designed to target front-line aircraft, helicopters, cruise missiles and drones. They can shoot down a plane flying as high as 11,000 feet and can travel 19,000 feet straight out. Fighters aligned with the National Transitional Council and others swiped armaments from the storage facility, witnesses told Human Rights Watch. The warehouse is located near a base of the Khamis Brigade, a special forces unit in Gadhafi’s military, in the southeastern part of the capital. The warehouse contains mortars and artillery rounds, but there are empty crates for those items as well. There are also empty boxes for another surface-to-air missile, the SA-7. Peter Bouckaert, Human Rights Watch emergencies director, told CNN he has seen the same pattern in armories looted elsewhere in Libya, noting that “in every city we arrive, the first thing to disappear are the surface-to-air missiles.” The most obvious destination for items like this would obviously be the world’s weapons black market, where they could fall into the hands of terrorists and other assorted rogues. Perhaps we ought to ask our “friends” in the NTC about this.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: jihad; manpads; missiles; samsmissingfromlibya; terrorism
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General information The SA-24 Grinch (Russian name Igla-S 9K338) is the latest generation of Russian portable air defense missile system. The SA-24 Grinch Igla-S is a further development of the Igla family systems (SA-18 and SA-16). In 2004 the Russian army adopted the new MANPADS - Igla-S (sometimes called "Igla-Super") which is much more sophisticated and efficient in countering air threats. Serial production of the "Igla-S" ("Needle-S") portable antiaircraft missile complex (PAAMC) is conducted at the Degtyarev factory in the city of Kovrov. The "Igla-S" PAAMC by its capabilities is significantly superior to the "Igla" PAAMC, which entered service in 1983.


1 posted on 09/08/2011 11:45:12 AM PDT by bayouranger
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And somehow I’m supposed to b surprised that the AQ-backed rebels now have lots of shoulder-fired surface-air missiles. /s/


2 posted on 09/08/2011 11:46:59 AM PDT by Pecos (Constitutionalist. Liberty and Honor will not die on my watch.)
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To: bayouranger

Come on! Everyone knows a good civil rights movement needs Surface to Air firepower!


3 posted on 09/08/2011 11:48:27 AM PDT by MetaThought
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To: Pecos

Wonder if the instructions were packed with them...hmmmmm


4 posted on 09/08/2011 11:49:38 AM PDT by Captain7seas (FIRE JANE LUBCHENCO FROM NOAA)
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To: Pecos

Hope it was the CIA first then the Mossad 2nd


5 posted on 09/08/2011 11:49:38 AM PDT by NoLibZone (Democrats are violent. Prisons are overflowing with democrats convicted of violent crimes.)
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To: Pecos

Wonder if the instructions were packed with them...hmmmmm


6 posted on 09/08/2011 11:49:49 AM PDT by Captain7seas (FIRE JANE LUBCHENCO FROM NOAA)
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To: bayouranger

geez...coming to an airport near you...


7 posted on 09/08/2011 11:50:34 AM PDT by moovova
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To: MetaThought

A few should be a part of everyone’s Bug Out Bag...


8 posted on 09/08/2011 11:51:02 AM PDT by null and void (Day 957 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: bayouranger
Same thing happened in Iraq, with anti-US forces looting Hussein's armories before US troops could secure them. Apparently no MANPADs there, but lots of artillery shells that ended up as IEDs.

This should have been expected.

9 posted on 09/08/2011 11:51:37 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney (New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. A primer on armed revolt. Available form Amazon.)
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Coming soon to an in-flight airplane near you...


10 posted on 09/08/2011 11:53:50 AM PDT by Fedupwithit ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants" -Albert Camus)
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When is 0bama going to Tripoli to declare victory?

FUBO GTFO ! 499 Days until Noon Jan 20, 2013 - Hell Yes, change is coming!

11 posted on 09/08/2011 11:54:25 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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My guess it might have been Brits. They have been there since before the beginning.


12 posted on 09/08/2011 11:54:40 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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PS: It raises the issue....how many planes have we lost we don’t know about?

If the weapons were there, why were they not used?


13 posted on 09/08/2011 11:56:36 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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To: moovova

G. W. Bush’s fault!!!!


14 posted on 09/08/2011 12:01:03 PM PDT by Mr. Wright (is)
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So we used our airpower to provide radical moslems with the weapons to shoot down our airliners. Brilliant! The Democrats are absolutely brilliant! What’s next from the Democrats?
“Let’s give chemical warheads to the kids at the elementary schools to play with!”
“If we get a campaign donation!”


15 posted on 09/08/2011 12:11:35 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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These weapons were not taken by Brits, CIA, or Mossad. They would have either — set explosives and blown them up — called in a n air strike — trucked them out to a secure location. The one thing they would not have done is take them out of the crates and leave the manifests. These were taken by people who intend to use them in the very near future.


16 posted on 09/08/2011 12:31:23 PM PDT by Datom
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17 posted on 09/08/2011 12:33:42 PM PDT by gaijin
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Well, if you were going to steal something to sell, would you steal ammo, guns, or MANPADS worth $50,000+ a pop?


18 posted on 09/08/2011 12:36:40 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: bayouranger
I have seen some chatter on other sites saying there may be several hundred missiles “missing” not just a few as is being reported. I hope that is wrong.
19 posted on 09/08/2011 12:40:24 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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Ohhh,
Wionder if I can pick one of these suckers up off Ebay?


20 posted on 09/08/2011 12:48:06 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Obammy is little more than a quota boy with a teleprompter)
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