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Mr. President, Where's the Bill?
9-8-2011 | cc2k

Posted on 09/08/2011 5:19:36 PM PDT by cc2k

I watched the speech tonight. As speeches go, it was interesting.

Mr. Obama repeatedly mentioned his proposed "American Jobs Act." He was telling about all these magical, wonderful things that were in the "American Jobs Act."

He went on to basically demand, "Pass the bill."

Congress can't pass a speech!

I'd like to read the bill before I call my Congress Critter one way or the other.

During the speech, a Google search for the phrase "American Jobs Act" on the whitehouse.gov website. Returned no results at all. By the end of the speech, it returned a single link to a page with a live video feed of some kind. I watched for a bit and am listening to it in the background. So far, I haven't heard anything that Congress can vote on.

Where's the bill, Mr. President?


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KEYWORDS: chat; notnews; vanity
Update, Jay Carney is on with O'Reilly right now and says they will submit a bill next week or something like that.

Mr. President, don't stand up in front of a joint session of Congress and tell them they must pass a bill when the bill doesn't yet exist.

1 posted on 09/08/2011 5:19:37 PM PDT by cc2k
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To: cc2k

In the Nancy Pelosi tradition, you will need to pass the bill to find out what’s in it. Based on the odor of tonight’s speech, I think we all know what’s in it.


2 posted on 09/08/2011 5:22:02 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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To: cc2k

No need.

” JUST PASS IT ! “

Repeat mantra over until all obey.

No committee hearings.

No floor debates.

No CBO scorings.

OBEY

DO AS I COMMAND

JUST PASS IT !


3 posted on 09/08/2011 5:23:03 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: cc2k

You know I thought Obama’s first 5 minutes were really effective. I thought we might be in for a long night. Then his inner college professor came out and started lecturing and gave us the laundry list. Literally within 10 minutes I was relieved, he is toast.


4 posted on 09/08/2011 5:25:18 PM PDT by fatez ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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To: cc2k

This should be broken into individual bills for each major piece... Pass the good parts (and there are a couple)... trash the rest.


5 posted on 09/08/2011 5:26:04 PM PDT by Tim n Texas
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To: cc2k
Where's the bill, Mr. President?

Hey? Cut Prez Zero some slack! He was on vacation and didn't have time to address the small detail of joblessness. He will get around to it in a week or two. He said so in the little meeting that he had there tonight! Geez.....

6 posted on 09/08/2011 5:26:57 PM PDT by eeriegeno (<p>)
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To: cc2k
This will be the 2010 Jobs Bill on steroids.

SENATE JOBS BILL

7 posted on 09/08/2011 5:29:56 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: cc2k

Frankly, I don’t like being yelled at.

By anybody.

FUBO.


8 posted on 09/08/2011 5:32:05 PM PDT by Tigerized
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To: cc2k

Street theater, it’s all this shyster has.


9 posted on 09/08/2011 5:32:38 PM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: cc2k
Hey, I've got an idea.

How about, first, we have Reid take some of the jobs bills our new Congress has arealy passed - that Reid REFUSES to let be voted on.

They must have merit if Reid is afraid to bring them to a vote - afraid even dems would vote for them.

Why is NO ONE mentioned THESE bills.

They all let the CICINO push the lie that the new Congress has done nothing and the HE is the only one with any plan.

10 posted on 09/08/2011 5:36:25 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: cc2k
"Jobs plan? What jobs plan? We don't need no stinking jobs plan!"

America needs WEALTH CREATION something government and the leftists can do nothing about except GET OUT OF THE WAY.

11 posted on 09/08/2011 5:37:07 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: cc2k

That’s why afl-cio was sitting in the box with Meeechelle, he is staying in the Lincoln bedroom this week, and will reveal the bill after he writes it, in a week or so.


12 posted on 09/08/2011 5:37:24 PM PDT by swamprebel ( proud SOB?Barbarian/ Hobbit!)
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To: cc2k; xzins; wmfights
The White House has released a PRESS RELEASE about what they intend to put in the bill.

But the Bill that President Obama insists that Congress PASS NOW
DOES NOT EXIST!!!!!!

13 posted on 09/08/2011 5:37:24 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: fatez

Wow, you actually watched the speech. There is a deafing silence online it is like everyone panned it. He could have phoned this one in. He simply put out ideas he knows Congress will not go for so he can blame the Tea Party racist.


14 posted on 09/08/2011 5:38:04 PM PDT by OldGoatCPO
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To: cc2k

It’s all Kabuki.


15 posted on 09/08/2011 5:40:01 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (The democratic party is the greatest cargo cult in history.)
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To: Tim n Texas
Pass the good parts (and there are a couple)...

Name one, and state how Obama said it'll be "paid for" without (a)raising taxes or (b)impacting the debt ceiling.

Go ahead, I'll wait ......

16 posted on 09/08/2011 5:40:40 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: cc2k

Boehner should announce he’ll put it up for a vote first thing tomorrow, assuming Zero submits it by then.


17 posted on 09/08/2011 5:40:44 PM PDT by kevao
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To: P-Marlowe
Yeah, I got the "Fact Sheet" right before the whitehouse.gov website crashed.

I especially liked this part:

From the White House fact sheet on the American Jobs Act:
Fully Paid for as Part of the President’s Long-Term Deficit Reduction Plan.
So, these proposals aren't paid for, but they will be when the "super committee" finds an additional ~ $450 Billion in spending cuts/revenue enhancements above and beyond their current goal.

Yeah, that will happen.

18 posted on 09/08/2011 5:44:48 PM PDT by cc2k ( If having an "R" makes you conservative, does walking into a barn make you a horse's (_*_)?)
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To: kevao
kevao wrote:
Boehner should announce he’ll put it up for a vote first thing tomorrow, assuming Zero submits it by then.
Boehner should announce that he'll put it up for a vote no sooner than 72 hours after the White House publishes the bill where We the People can read it. Not one hour sooner.
19 posted on 09/08/2011 5:47:29 PM PDT by cc2k ( If having an "R" makes you conservative, does walking into a barn make you a horse's (_*_)?)
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To: eeriegeno
Really, the headline should read, Mr.Bill, Where's the President?
20 posted on 09/08/2011 5:57:31 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: usconservative

$4000 tax credit to employers who hire someone unemployed for 6 months+. Clearly it would be paid for by 1) eliminating the unemployment payment, and 2) getting this working back to work, contributing income tax.


21 posted on 09/08/2011 5:59:32 PM PDT by Tim n Texas
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To: Tim n Texas
$4000 tax credit to employers who hire someone unemployed for 6 months+. Clearly it would be paid for by 1) eliminating the unemployment payment, and 2) getting this working back to work, contributing income tax.

It's not paid for by anything, other than an employer who absorbs the other costs of "hiring" someone to get a "tax credit."

Do you have any idea how many times this has been proposed, and how many jobs it's created?

At least 5 times, and 0 jobs. It's yet another re-tread of an idea Obummer has already tried selling. It's a non-starter. NO employer in their right mind incurs tens of thousands of dollars of hiring costs to get a four thousand dollar credit. That's a losing proposition that only a socialist/marxist/economic idiot like Obama can embrace.

22 posted on 09/08/2011 6:05:13 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

I agree an employer isn’t going to create a job just for the credit...but It may encourage some hiring from the unemployment rolls, for openings they currently have... And employee payroll tax would eventually return the cost of the tax credit back to the treasury. I know that some corporate recruiters actively look for these types of incentives.


23 posted on 09/08/2011 6:23:45 PM PDT by Tim n Texas
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To: cc2k
Obama calls on Congress to quickly pass his ‘American Jobs Act’ (Lucy to Charlie Brown, I promise this time not to move the football. hee hee hee )

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/09/08/obama.jobs.plan/index.html

White House spokesman Jay Carney told CNN that Obama will send Congress jobs plan legislation next week.Lets see, it does not yet exist, it will be sent to Congress next week and everyone should get behind it and like it. /sarcasm hee hee hee Do you miss Baghdad Bob?

24 posted on 09/08/2011 6:33:02 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: cc2k

“Pass the bill now!”—but Valerie says they’re writing it now and will have part of it done next week...


25 posted on 09/08/2011 6:34:50 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: cc2k

“JUST PASS IT!”

UH, HELL, NO! That is exactly what brought us Okenyancare. NO!


26 posted on 09/08/2011 6:57:27 PM PDT by Student0165
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To: cc2k

Since the money to pay for the “American Jobs Act” will be coming from the 12 man commission maybe they should handle the bill too. So instead of $1.5 billion in cuts now they have to find $2 billion; will the commission go for that?


27 posted on 09/08/2011 7:21:21 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Psalm 109:8)
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To: P-Marlowe

I want to see the scoring on that sucker. There is no way the commission can find the cuts for this one.


28 posted on 09/08/2011 7:27:12 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Psalm 109:8)
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To: usconservative

Agreed. 4 grand is peanuts in the world of hiring. Now all men are not created equal. The unemployed are more likely to get a job than someone who is busting their butt at a get by job until they can find better.

Again. Why am I working this damn hard at a get by job while looking for better?

That government tit looks better everyday while those of us working are treated as idiots.


29 posted on 09/08/2011 7:27:26 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: usconservative

Agreed. 4 grand is peanuts in the world of hiring. Now all men are not created equal. The unemployed are more likely to get a job than someone who is busting their butt at a get by job until they can find better.

Again. Why am I working this damn hard at a get by job while looking for better?

That government tit looks better everyday while those of us working are treated as idiots.


30 posted on 09/08/2011 7:28:09 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: usconservative

Agreed. 4 grand is peanuts in the world of hiring. Now all men are not created equal. The unemployed are more likely to get a job than someone who is busting their butt at a get by job until they can find better.

Again. Why am I working this damn hard at a get by job while looking for better?

That government tit looks better everyday while those of us working are treated as idiots.


31 posted on 09/08/2011 7:28:35 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: Para-Ord.45

It’s called dictatorship


32 posted on 09/08/2011 7:29:54 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: cc2k
Where's the bill, Mr. President?

Obama gave a speech. Isn't that enough for the Democrats to deem the bill passed?

Oh, yeah... the Democrats don't control the House anymore. I wonder if anyone told Obama.

-PJ

33 posted on 09/08/2011 7:35:35 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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To: cc2k

You expected a lying, racist, commie to be something more thaqn all hat and no cattle? Barry bassturd is all rhetoric and no sense.


34 posted on 09/08/2011 7:36:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: cableguymn
That government tit looks better everyday

I don't think you'd fare well as a moocher. You could never be one of them.

35 posted on 09/08/2011 7:38:00 PM PDT by kevao
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To: fatez

The first five minutes were into, as any good speech coach will tell you, and then he got to the nuts and bolts. He didn’t have an effective conclusion at all. I thought it was a very abrupt ending.

He did say something like “pass it now” a coupla dozen times.

And now we find it isn’t even written? Typical politician. They were waiting to see the blowback before the put pen to page.

Being a veteran and a red-blooded American, I liked the idea of finding jobs for veterans. I’m also a “buy American” supporter, so that was a decent part of the speech.

I was hoping to hear about total tax reform. He spoke about “reform” of one portion of one section of tax law. They’re gonna tweak capital gains a bit. Whoop.

The only economic proposal I want to hear from now on is a sweeping change of our tax system. Get RID of the originally unconstitutional income tax, and go to a consumption tax.


36 posted on 09/08/2011 7:43:38 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: P-Marlowe; wmfights

The first five minutes were into, as any good speech coach will tell you, and then he got to the nuts and bolts. He didn’t have an effective conclusion at all. I thought it was a very abrupt ending.

He did say something like “pass it now” a coupla dozen times.

And now we find it isn’t even written? Typical politician. They were waiting to see the blowback before the put pen to page.

Being a veteran and a red-blooded American, I liked the idea of finding jobs for veterans. I’m also a “buy American” supporter, so that was a decent part of the speech.

I was hoping to hear about total tax reform. He spoke about “reform” of one portion of one section of tax law. They’re gonna tweak capital gains a bit. Whoop.

The only economic proposal I want to hear from now on is a sweeping change of our tax system. Get RID of the originally unconstitutional income tax, and go to a consumption tax.


37 posted on 09/08/2011 7:48:08 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: cc2k
Boehner should announce that he'll put it up for a vote no sooner than 72 hours after the White House publishes the bill..

White House does not publish a bill.

38 posted on 09/08/2011 7:49:01 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Psalm 109:8)
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To: xzins
Being a veteran and a red-blooded American, I liked the idea of finding jobs for veterans. I’m also a “buy American” supporter, so that was a decent part of the speech.

It was a "speech". Obama gave it. So it was filled with lies.

I cannot stomach listening to him or watching him on TV. All I know about the speech I read on Free Republic.

The principle issue is that Obama demanded that Congress pass his bill, but there isn't any bill. Has the MSM picked up on this?

39 posted on 09/08/2011 7:56:00 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

Some writers have, but I’ve seen nothing on Fox tonight. Bill O’Reilly absolutely bumfuzzled Presidential Press Secty Carney tonight. That was funny, but no mention that the bill doesn’t yet exist.

If you’ve ever heard clothesline preaching, that’s what Obama did tonight. He had intro, body, weak conclusion. The body was points 1-25 soundbites about each item on the clothesline from teachers to bridges....one of which is the I-75 bridge across the Ohio River here where I live. (He had the Cincy mayor at the speech.)

That bridge is the furthest thing from “shovel ready” that I could ever imagine. The only ones he could hire would be the engineers that begin the study of how to change I-75 to redesign an outdated, clogged bridge. How long do engineers need for that kind of stuff? Years and years.

We’ll be using those shovels to bury people waiting for that “shovel ready” to come on line.


40 posted on 09/08/2011 8:05:56 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: cc2k

Mac daddy has no plan, no bill and no answers for the problems HE caused and never will, ever.


41 posted on 09/08/2011 10:50:40 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: cableguymn
The unemployed are more likely to get a job than someone who is busting their butt at a get by job until they can find better.

Not really. There's a HUGE backlash against the "long term unemployed" who have been on unemployment for 99 weeks (or longer..)

Many hiring managers have told their HR folks or recruiters that they don't even want to SEE resume's of those who've been out of work two years. In many cases, they don't want to see resume's of those who've been out of work more than three months.

The thought being that those who are still working are considered the 'cream of the crop' and therefore the most desireable hires.

A $4k "tax credit" isn't going to change that. You are in a far better position in a "get by" job than being unemployed. While you may not be working in your field, you've shown the drive and initiative to do what it takes, which makes you far more likely to get a job than someone who's been unemployed for a long time.

That's just the way it is right now. I know plenty of hiring managers, HR folks and technical recruiters who've all told me what I stated above.

42 posted on 09/09/2011 3:43:27 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Mike Darancette
Mike Darancette wrote:
Boehner should announce that he'll put it up for a vote no sooner than 72 hours after the White House publishes the bill..

White House does not publish a bill.
I understand that.

The "normal" process for an administration that wants to show leadership is that they write a bill (often with input from some Representatives and Senators) and take that bill to a Representative and a Senator (sometimes more than one of each) to sponsor the legislation. The bill then goes in "the hopper" and proceeds much like any other bill.

My point is that Mr. Boehner missed a big opportunity last night. He could have taken his microphone, at the end of the speech last night, and said this:

Remarks Speaker Boehner should have made last night:
“Mr. President, you’ve asked us repeatedly to ‘pass the bill’ tonight. In an effort to move this forward with the highest priority, I’d like to have the first reading of this bill into the record while we have everyone here in the chamber tonight. If Ms. Pelosi wants to sponsor the bill, that's fine. If nobody else will step forward, I’ll even offer sponsor it myself to move the process along.”
The opportunity to do that in front of the cameras of the national media has been lost. Still, that should be his first words out of his mouth when he calls the House to order this morning.

The rest of my comment stands. Anything this important should be published for at least 3 days before the House votes on it.

43 posted on 09/09/2011 6:25:06 AM PDT by cc2k ( If having an "R" makes you conservative, does walking into a barn make you a horse's (_*_)?)
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To: cc2k

WHO is writing this bill???


44 posted on 09/09/2011 6:34:15 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: xzins; P-Marlowe
He did say something like “pass it now” a coupla dozen times.

It's just a campaign speech. It's one more move to try and point the finger of blame at the GOP for the incredible mess he has created. Another example of this is the new mantra that "Washington is broken". The reality is the Pubs have offered one great bill after another. They passed the Ryan Budget Plan. They passed Cut, Cap and Balance. They have offered to try and find common ground on a variety of issues and the Rats have done NOTHING!

If this jerk is reelected we deserve the catastrophe that will follow.

45 posted on 09/09/2011 6:46:58 AM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: who knows what evil?
who knows what evil? wrote:
WHO is writing this bill???
That's an excellent question.

If past experience is any indication, this bill will be written by lawyers from SEIU, the Teamsters, AFL-CIO and other unions. I would be shocked if it came from anyone else.

I'm still amaed at the nerve that the Teleprompter writers had last night. Demanding "Pass the bill" or something like that 17 or 18 times in a 34 minute speech, and there is no bill 24 hours later, there probably won't be a bill 48 hours later, and I'd be very surprised if there was a bill 96 hours later.

My searches today are turning up a whole lot of "backers" of the American Jobs Act. Various Democrat Senators and Congress critters, as expected, along with some Governors. But I'm surprised at some of the CEO's that are lining up and backing this non-existent, yet to be written piece of legislation.

I'm considering writing an additional piece here, "CEO's Writing a blank check to the President," discussing that situation. I'm reviewing my meager investments to make certain I don't have my money in companies led by CEO's who are willing to write a blank check and back a bill that hasn't even been written yet.

46 posted on 09/09/2011 6:17:57 PM PDT by cc2k ( If having an "R" makes you conservative, does walking into a barn make you a horse's (_*_)?)
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