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Did Perry Always Jealously See Palin as a Threat?
Human Events ^ | September 8, 2011 | Tony Lee

Posted on 09/08/2011 11:58:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Admin Moderator

Um, I responding to a poster named “Sea Parrot”. I said they may be just a parrot. Get it? :)

Anyhow, duly noted, and I trust your warning also applies to those who have called me stupid, dense, etc. etc. over the past few weeks.


101 posted on 09/09/2011 7:44:23 AM PDT by Carling (DeMint to Obama: I want to read the bill, not listen to talking points off a TelePrompter.)
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To: alstewartfan

You said I could call you any name I wanted to call you.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2775763/posts?page=11#11

When does ‘Sarah’s Constitutional Brigade’ fit in the time to campaign for Juan McLame?


102 posted on 09/09/2011 7:50:07 AM PDT by Carling (DeMint to Obama: I want to read the bill, not listen to talking points off a TelePrompter.)
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To: Carling
You started with the attacks on post 3 and kept going, it wasn't just that one post.

And yes, if anyone else wades into a thread and lobs insult after insult, we will call them on it as well if we see it or someone brings it to our attention.

103 posted on 09/09/2011 7:51:39 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: newzjunkey

Spot on.

The smears and divisiveness I’ve seen from Team Sarah has turned me off to her for now. I know that’s not fair, but until she declares, her supporters are not helping anybody beat Obama. If she declares and proves herself, I’ll support her like I will any other conservative candidate.


104 posted on 09/09/2011 7:52:27 AM PDT by Carling (DeMint to Obama: I want to read the bill, not listen to talking points off a TelePrompter.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

I think you might want to actually WATCH the video from the car instead of embellishing a story you just must have heard somewhere.

See videos below.

You will see the driver (not even Perry) exit the car and go to the officer to speak with her (if it had been a ticket, it would have been the driver, not Perry), after which Rick Perry exits the car to walk over to the two who are already talking on the side of the road.

The total of Perry’s part of the conversation then begins and is listed below:

Perry: Are you going to need to see my ID?

Officer: No Sir.

Perry: Are you writing him a ticket?

Officer: No sir.

Perry: I’m wondering what’s the hold up here then.

Officer: I’m writing a warning, sir.

Perry: Well then why don’t you just let us get on down the road?

Officer: After I get done with my warning, sir, I’ll let you get down the road, sir.

Rick Perry: (Turns and walks back to the car).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8CvXIY6mgk

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-people/rick-perry/video-rick-perrys-2000-dps-traffic-stop/

Not one of his best moves, no one but no one should EVER get out of a car to speak with an officer out of their sense of uncertainty of who they may be dealing with... but trying to be intimidating? Hardly.


105 posted on 09/09/2011 7:54:23 AM PDT by casinva (Maybe it's time to have some provocative language. (Perry/Rubio 2012))
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To: P-Marlowe
When she supported TARP she was giving us HER position that she thought it was a good policy.

I guess I missed the part where she was vice president at that time, instead of being on the ticket with McCain.

106 posted on 09/09/2011 8:21:11 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy; DB; don-o; xzins
I guess I missed the part where she was vice president at that time, instead of being on the ticket with McCain.

No you missed the part of the article that said that Palin was "forced" to be a press secretary for McCain. Apparently she had no will of her own and was just McCain's lackey and was pretending to be in favor of TARP when she really opposed it.

The article suggests that Sarah Palin was just being another phony baloney go-along-to-get-along politician and that the positions she was pimping for McCain were not her own and that she was "forced" to support every position that McCain took during the campaign.

So do you agree that she was "forced" to be McCain's lackey, or were her statements during the campaign honest assessments of her own positions at the time?

You can't have it both ways. Either she was being honest in her positions back then or she was being a phony lackey for McCain's campaign.

Which one was it?

107 posted on 09/09/2011 8:31:35 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe
I would say that, since McCain was the one on top of the ticket, that Palin was playing the role of subordinate regarding policy as to not appear as a loose cannon in that role.

It has probably caused her some political damage, but can you point to instances in major party presidential campaigns where the veep candidate publicly disagreed with the presidential candidate on a major policy issue? Even if they had philosophical differences, such as Reagan and Bush the Elder in 1980?

108 posted on 09/09/2011 8:39:10 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy; P-Marlowe; wmfights

Yes, Cheney disagreed with Bush on same-sex marriage due to Cheney’s daughter being a lesbian. It made a splash for a while, if you recall, but the networks were afraid to touch it since they at the same time didn’t want to offend gays.


109 posted on 09/09/2011 8:56:11 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: xzins

That is hardly the same as viewpoints on major policy such as TARP.


110 posted on 09/09/2011 8:57:24 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy; P-Marlowe; wmfights
Without mentioning where the event took place (Davenport}, Shipman began: "The issue came in a campaign town hall meeting, where the questions are not usually this pointed."

Woman in audience: "I need to know, what do you think about homosexual marriages?"

Dick Cheney: "Lynne and I have a gay daughter. So it's an issue our family is very familiar with. We have two daughters, and we have enormous pride in both of them."

Shipman: "It's the first time the Vice President has ever publicly addressed the fact that his daughter, Mary, who helps to run his campaign, is gay, although she herself has been open about it."

Cheney: "With respect to the question of relationships, my general view is that freedom means freedom for everyone."

Shipman: "In February, President Bush proposed a constitutional amendment that would ban same-sex marriage."

George W. Bush, February 24: "Today, I call upon the Congress to promptly pass an amendment to our Constitution defining and protecting marriage as a union of a man and a woman."

Shipman: "Since then, the Vice President has been in a difficult position. In 2000, he said the issue of gay marriage should be left up to the states. And the Vice President doesn't like to publicize his differences with the President."

Wolf Blitzer, CNN anchor, March 2, 2004: "So you support it?"

Cheney: "I support the President."

Shipman: "Today, however, he made plain that his view is different than the President's."

Cheney: "That's appropriately a matter for the states to decide. That's how it ought to best be handled. At this point, my own preference is as I've stated. But the President makes basic policy for the administration."

Shipman: "It was already promising to be a thorny issue during the Republican Convention. And, today, conservative Republicans said they were disappointed in the Vice President's comments."

Genevieve Wood, Family Research Council: "The Vice President's remarks today are disappointing. The fact is, I think it sends a mixed message to voters. Where does the administration stand on this issue?"

Shipman: "But gay Republican groups welcome the move."

Patrick Guerrero, Log Cabin Republicans: "It was a break with the President. And it reminds all of us why the Republican party ought not to divide this country."

Shipman: "Tonight, the Cheney campaign says the Vice President's comments are not markedly different from anything he said in the past. The White House also trying to downplay it, noting the Vice President made the President's position plain. But what is notable here, Charlie, is that six days before a carefully-crafted, well-organized Republican convention, the Vice President obviously decided that the personal was more important than the political."

111 posted on 09/09/2011 9:01:10 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why did you change this article's title from this?

Does Perry see Palin as a threat?

Write your own blog don't put your ideals in an articles title.

112 posted on 09/09/2011 9:02:17 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Cash for clunkers, subsidies - none has worked. The left =one-trick pony on the economy $pend)
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To: dirtboy; P-Marlowe; wmfights
That is hardly the same as viewpoints on major policy such as TARP.

Are you serious!!

With a social conservative base rabid over these things, and you think this wasn't a huge departure in the middle of a campaign?

You're just arguing to argue and being picayunish. You asked for an example and I gave you a huge example.

113 posted on 09/09/2011 9:03:50 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: dirtboy; DB; don-o; xzins; wmfights
I would say that, since McCain was the one on top of the ticket, that Palin was playing the role of subordinate regarding policy as to not appear as a loose cannon in that role.

IOW she was being another disingenuous go-along-to-get-along politician. She was not being "herself".

If that is the case, then how do we know she isn't just positioning herself as a Tea Party Candidate by reading up on what the Tea Party espouses and then "playing the role" of a Tea Party supporter?

Her support of McCain in the primary against a solid tea-party conservative seems to contradict your claim that she was just playing the role of subordinate when she was espousing McCain's policy positions during the campaign. If she was just "playing the role", then she owed him nothing after the election and she was free to either not endorse McCain or to throw her support behind Hayworth. She chose to enthusiastically support McCain.

What irritates me is that there are all these Palin supporters who claim that Rick Perry is a disingenuous RINO while Sarah Palin is somehow the perfect Tea Party conservative. So they work to destroy Perry while they wait for Palin to make a decision on whether or not to run. Well at this point if she runs, then she is going to be Romney's best weapon in the campaign. She will suction off the Perry votes and if Romney's numbers hold, then Romney will win the nomination.

Now on a policy level, which stated policy positions does Palin hold that are not identical to Perry's?

114 posted on 09/09/2011 9:05:37 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Jealousy is the buzzword, dontcha know. Pretty soon there will be nobody left that ain’t jealous.


115 posted on 09/09/2011 9:06:52 AM PDT by dforest
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To: indylindy; reaganaut; sickoflibs

I am not anti-Palin or anti-anybody but Romney.Palin bots are different than Palin Supporters. I clearly realize this now.

Jealousy is correct, accept it is opposite the Palin Bots in this thread are seemingly jealous of Perry (like they were Bachmann)to go too such great lengths as this pathetic thread’s video supposedly showing Perry jealousy.

I challenge any Palin BOT in this thread to say a good thing about Cain,Perry,Bachmann.I can say positive things about them all including Palin.I get Palin more so now I watched her movie and I highly respect her and feel she is a viable candidate if she so chooses.

I do not respect her BOT supporters on this thread.They seem to post made up titled threads and really stretch an issue to bash other candidates.I also kindly challenge all Palin BOTS to disavow calling Bachmann a RINO.Some of the Palin Supporters in other threads have.They are low in number but it is better than this garbage!

I just watched the video in full screen twice-to make sure I didn’t miss any Perry jealousy towards Palin; the BOTS are claiming.

I saw Palin step back to give the podium to Perry.I am assuming Perry was the head spokesperson of the governors convention because maybe he is President of it or something being that he has been a governor a very long time?Even if this is not the case it is SO OBVIOUS that Perry was moving things along to another agenda/meeting they had.He was moving it along NOT BECAUSE HE WAS JEALOUS of Palin that is clear.WATCH IT...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=exPrpu_jigs#at=183

Whoever sees jealousy in this has a severe problem or bias or needs glasses.


116 posted on 09/09/2011 9:42:05 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Cash for clunkers, subsidies - none has worked. The left =one-trick pony on the economy $pend)
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To: dirtboy; xzins; wmfights; DB; don-o
That is hardly the same as viewpoints on major policy such as TARP.

LOL.

The Conservatives were violently opposed to the TARP passage and was begging McCain to vote against it. The TARP passage followed by the stimulus package was the spark that launched the TEA Party movement. Yet Palin was on board with the TARP bailout and then after being released from having to "play the role" of subordinate, she freely chose to support McCain (who voted for TARP, authored McCain Feingold, and proposed Amnesty for illegal aliens throughout his entire career) over the Tea Party Conservative JD Hayworth.

No, my FRiend, I think that Sarah Palin was being honest when she gave her support to TARP. You, on the other hand, believe she was being dishonest. Yet you support her 100%. Interesting. You apparently think that Palin is better than Perry because she is honest and he isn't and she is more conservative than Perry, even though you believe that Palin was not being honest when it came to TARP and their stated policy positions are virtually identical.

This thread was an attempt to bash Perry on behalf of Palin. The headline was changed to reflect the bias of the poster.

It is kind of interesting to see the religious zealousness of some of the remaining Palin supporters on this forum: Palin can do no wrong, and when she did do wrong, it was because she was forced to do so, but she is her own person and not beholden to anyone.

Right.

117 posted on 09/09/2011 9:47:28 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe
If that is the case, then how do we know she isn't just positioning herself as a Tea Party Candidate by reading up on what the Tea Party espouses and then "playing the role" of a Tea Party supporter?

Maybe from her actions before she was McCain's choice for veep? You know, where she took on the corrupt Alaska GOP establishment? Before the Tea Party even existed?

You act like she has no history other than her associations with McCain.

I'm sorry, but a veep candidate is not going to go against the person at the top of the ticket. And McCain made her a national figure, so her campaigning for him in 2010 was IMO out of loyalty.

118 posted on 09/09/2011 9:50:04 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: indylindy

No jealousy here; Palin and Perry are not like this.Too bad the bots are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z75yHEy98wY


119 posted on 09/09/2011 9:51:50 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Cash for clunkers, subsidies - none has worked. The left =one-trick pony on the economy $pend)
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To: dirtboy; xzins; wmfights; DB; don-o
And McCain made her a national figure, so her campaigning for him in 2010 was IMO out of loyalty.

Kinda like a "political payback" huh?

You scratch my back.....

120 posted on 09/09/2011 9:53:40 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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