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Gibson CEO Slams “Big Liberal” Obama After Speech: “He’s Done Untold Damage to Business”
Gateway Pundit ^ | September 9,2011 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 09/09/2011 6:18:40 AM PDT by Hojczyk

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To: Dick Vomer
Does Collins make acoustic baritone guitars?

No. I just checked and I don't see them in Collings' standard line of acoustics, mandolins, ukuleles, archtops, and electric guitars. I think Taylor may be the only one of the large manufacturers and the medium-sized manufacturers that makes an acoustic baritone (in both eight- and six-string). I don't see one in Martin's offerings, but I'll bet the Custom Shop makes one. They made a tenor guitar for me a few years ago, when it was not a catalogue item.

A few years ago - given that Bill Collings started as essentially a 'one-of' custom shop - you probably could have ordered one then. I doubt that's the case now.

The addition of mandolins, ukuleles, archtops, and electric guitars is fairly new.

Collings started out trying to make modern versions of pre-WWI Martins. They've done it better than anyone else, in my opinion (and in the opinion of most). I own several Collings - as well as several Martins, both standard and Custom Shop models, that are built to pre-WWII specs, down to the bracing, type of glue, etc.

The Martins are wonderful guitars, but the Collings simply blow the Martins away (including a Martin Brazilian Rosewood D-28 Golden Era, made to pre-WWII specs) if you're looking for a pre-WII sound. They boom like cannons. If you were a flackpicker playing a Collings D2H in a bluegrass group, I sometimes joke with banjo players that a vintage Gibson Grenada would need a mic to play leads over the Collings.

Every standard Collings matches the quality of a Custom Shop Gibson, or high-end standard or Custom Shop Martin - and is above the quality of most Custom Shop Fenders I've owned.

21 posted on 09/09/2011 9:08:33 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: Hojczyk

Um... Obama’s pretty far to the left of “Liberal.”

In fact, he’s pretty far to the left of Fidel Castro.


22 posted on 09/09/2011 9:09:57 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Dick Vomer

I’m a Fender guy. I don’t like the sound of humbucker’s high end. I had one that I did like though, but it was stolen in ‘71. 1958 Flying V. Back then, it was just a used, undesirable, and ugly guitar! But it sounded great through my white Showman amp, which was stolen at the same time.

That said, I sure like an ES-5, or ES-295 with P-90s!


23 posted on 09/09/2011 9:53:45 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dick Vomer

“Does Collins make acoustic baritone guitars?”

National does. but ya gotta like resos.


24 posted on 09/09/2011 9:55:28 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Hojczyk

I’ve got a Guitar of the Week zebra wood top Les Paul. That’s all I’m gonna say.


25 posted on 09/09/2011 10:00:47 AM PDT by Walmartian
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To: JimC214
As you have stated here, he has played footsie with a lot of libs over the years. He is no conservative.

Guess he stiffed Obama on the protection money this year.

"Sorry Juszkiewicz, but I find your contributions this year to be a bit...disappointing. Nothing personal; just business, you understand."


26 posted on 09/09/2011 10:59:52 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: P-Marlowe
If you don’t own a Gibson, buy one. They don’t lose their value. They are as good an investment as gold.

Respectfully, that's true for vintage Gibsons, and it's true for some Custom Shop, limited edition, and reissue Gibsons.

Like the rest of the guitar industry, there are so many more guitars being made now than in the past that guitars aren't always a good investment. eBay has thousands of mint Gibson guitars, from a month to a couple of years old, that have already lost hundreds to over a thousand dollars in value.

It's not just true of Gibsons, it's generally true of new guitars.

I speak as someone who's been a serious collector of guitars for 40 years this year. Tiny things make a difference. You bought a 2010 sunburst Gibson ES-339? You'll be losing money. You bought a Custom Shop 2010 Gibson ES-339 in Pelham Blue or Inverness Green? Hold on to that puppy.

My electric Gibsons (all vintage, Custom Shop, reissue, or limited edition) have gained value except for two - but none except the vintage ones have appreciated more than 5% a year.

The Gibsons have held their value much better than my Fenders, except for a few reissues and some Custom Shop models.

Acoustic Gibsons don't hold their value as well. I own a Southern Jumbo, a Custom Shop Hummingbird, a J-200, a J-45 (incredible guitar), and a L-200 (incredible guitar), all mint, which are worth less today than when I purchased them within the last twelve years. Eventually, they'll climb back - but they'll never be priced like a 1942 J-45 or a pre-war D-45.

Don't get me wrong; Gibsons don't tank in value like Taylors.

Some of my Martins have lost value, most are stable, but most Martins I've purchased in the last decade are worth more today than when I purchased them. Several have double or tripled in value in a decade. A couple of Custom Shop guitars and one standard Martin have more than tripled in value in less than a decade.

Collings are also good at holding their value, as are 'one of' guitars like and Olson or other guitars made by small, excellent luthiers.

I have good hopes for things like Gretsch Jet Duo reissues and the "English Gentleman", and Rickenbacker artist model limited editions, and some special Goodalls, old Gallaghers, Froggy Bottoms, highly inlaid Larrivees, etc.

Some of the guitars I owned that are documented to have been owned by and played by famous guitarists are good investments, I think.

But not all Gibsons (or Martins, or any other guitar) is as good an investment as gold, respectfully. They aren't making any more gold. They're cranking out Fenders, Gibsons, Taylors, and Martins daily.

27 posted on 09/09/2011 11:06:42 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: Walmartian
I’ve got a Guitar of the Week zebra wood top Les Paul.

Sweet. Sounds gorgeous. What model Les Paul (Studio, Standard, etc.)? Kluson-type 'green tulip' tuners by any chance?

28 posted on 09/09/2011 11:12:44 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

what’s a resos?


29 posted on 09/09/2011 2:38:21 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat, they sh#t on.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Ohhhhh... resonators... got it .. sorry


30 posted on 09/09/2011 2:39:50 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat, they sh#t on.)
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To: Scoutmaster

What are your thoughts on Mossman and Santa Cruz acoustic guitars as investments?

I’ve got a 1990 Les Paul Standard, cherry sunburst, that I bought a couple years ago. I bought it as a player, not as an investment, but it seems to be holding its value pretty well.


31 posted on 09/09/2011 2:47:46 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick
1990 Les Paul Standard
32 posted on 09/09/2011 2:50:10 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Dick Vomer

Dick,
I played one a couple of months ago, and it was very, very nice!


33 posted on 09/09/2011 2:52:53 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Scoutmaster
sound like a guy that knows his guitars, don't know if you play or invest but was wondering if you have opinion about baritone guitars. I only own 3 guitars, but I play and have never thought of them as an investment. More of just a beautiful thing that makes something really nice come out the sound hole or pick-ups. I got my first Fender Strat in 1971 high school it was old and used that my dad picked up at a pawn shop. Had an Ovation for about 20 years and now have a beautiful Taylor to replace it. Cost me an arm and a leg but I earned the money and said, "I'm playing this thing everyday of my life"... I earned the dough and it's the most beautiful thing with the nicest action I've ever held. I know that guitars are like women and you're probably dreaming about your favorites. But really just love at first site and sound. Put the Elixir strings on and it's sublime.

I've only held one other guitar I've felt like that besides my first Fender and that was about 25 years ago I played with a guy's Les Paul. My gawd, it sounded like molasses and velvet. The action was so perfect that if I thought of the note or chord it just seemed to play itself.

I had to just put it down after awhile cause I thought I'd be tempted to steal the dang thing. It had to have been tainted with heroin and cursed by the devil, I just wanted it SO MUCH. It was just too much money and it wouldn't have been played as much as my acoustic or Fender.

THis is just my opinion, but you buy a guitar and ya gotta play the thing. That's why I never got into collecting them. Felt almost silly to me to have all these beautiful works of art and they're just hanging there with nobody playing them.

I think I'm older now and would play the Les Paul and I'm almost positive that a Greenfield Baritone would get most of my attention.... but I can only dream of that stuff so far. hahahahahaha

34 posted on 09/09/2011 3:21:09 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat, they sh#t on.)
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To: Dick Vomer
I have forty years of experience and own too many guitars (as my wife says "some people have a 401(k), we have guitars)." I have some connections in the business and have generally been able to buy at dealer cost.

While I've dealt with tenor guitars (and soprano, tenor, and concert ukuleles), I've never seen nor played a baritone guitar. Sorry I can't help you, but you have me interested.

I have several guitars that are for playing (right now in my bedroom, it's all acoustic: a Gibson, two Martins, and two Collings - and a Gibson banjo, a Weber mandolin, a Gibson mandolin, and an old Martin ukulele), not for investment. Most are for investment.

You probably love your Taylor because the neck reminds you of your Stratocaster; Taylor's have a bolt-on neck instead of a dovetailed neck, and the neck's much more like an electric guitar than virtually any other acoustic you'll find.

Bob Taylor's a nice guy; I first met him when he was still delivering his guitars out of his car. I was in a guitar store near the Haight-Ashbury District of San Francisco, looking at a Santa Cruz guitar, when he drove up to deliver some guitars. His car and trunk were full.

I've met him a couple of other times since then, including at NAMM.

35 posted on 09/09/2011 4:08:34 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: Dick Vomer
Felt almost silly to me to have all these beautiful works of art and they're just hanging there with nobody playing them.

They are beautiful works of art. And I do part with them.

All my kids are driving cars that were paid for by selling guitars. They've helped with college tuition, too. And when it comes time to sell, I'm always willing to take less money from a player than a collector.

36 posted on 09/09/2011 4:13:29 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: Scoutmaster

Wow, that is such a cool story. The Taylor I have has a low action but the radius of the neck is slightly bigger than my strat or ovation. Had the weirdest time adjusting to just the slightest increase in size. Affected my barre chords from the 6-7 th fret down but I’ve been able to adjust the neck and it turned out I just needed to adjust the neck.

I’ve told my wife that if the Internet had been around when I was a kid I would gave been in a band playing guitar. It’s so amazing the stuff I’ve learned to play over the last 7-8 years with tabs, videos and interviews about different tunings and tapping techniques.


37 posted on 09/09/2011 10:00:12 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat, they sh#t on.)
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To: Scoutmaster
Listen to these all the way through. Really nice guitar work

Here's some baritone guitar

Here's some baritone guitar

38 posted on 09/09/2011 10:14:45 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat, they sh#t on.)
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To: Scoutmaster

I read through your posts on this subject, but not convinced there is not a price being paid here for not going along. Sorry, this administration is thug all the way.


39 posted on 09/09/2011 10:17:03 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: antceecee
I read through your posts on this subject, but not convinced there is not a price being paid here for not going along. Sorry, this administration is thug all the way.

I agree with you that this administration is thug all the way.

Are you referring to my posts in this thread?

I have some detailed posts in other threads that include links to and quotes from filings in Madagascar Ebony litigation, Gibson internal email, and many other issues that no blogger, no Fox News, and no Gibson press release writer has ever provided.

For example, you know this is all about Gibson being the non-unionized guitar manufacturer, right?

Well, did you know that Fender, Gibson's largest competitor, is not unionized?

That Martin is not unionized?

That Taylor is not unionized?

That Collings is not unionized?

Yet the bloggers and FR posters continue to jump on "Gibson's the only non-unionized guitar maker" nonsense?

What, exactly, is it that Gibson didn't go along with?

40 posted on 09/10/2011 4:52:26 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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