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Jackie Kennedy Onassis not a fan of Martin Luther King Jr.
Politico ^ | September 9, 2011 | Tim Mak

Posted on 09/09/2011 7:43:03 AM PDT by beaversmom

Jacqueline Kennedy loathed civil rights icon Martin Luther King, saying on newly released tape recordings that she couldn’t look at a picture of him “without thinking…that man’s terrible.”

Kennedy also called King a “phony” and “tricky” during hours of chatty interviews with the historian Arthur Schlesinger that he tape recorded. The never-before-revealed interviews took place in 1963, shortly after Kennedy had been assassinated.

The former First Lady charged on the tapes that King had made derogatory remarks about her husband’s funeral and the Cardinal who celebrated Mass at the event, according to a report on the tapes by the Associated Press.

“He made fun of Cardinal Cushing and said that he was drunk at it [the funeral],” Kennedy said. “And things about they almost dropped the coffin. I just can’t see a picture of Martin Luther King without thinking, you know, that man’s terrible,” Kennedy said in a newly-released book featuring transcripts of the Kennedy tapes.

According to ABC, which has obtained the audio tapes and is hosting a two-hour Jackie Kennedy special on Sept. 13, the former first lady said King had arranged for an “orgy in the hotel” while in town for the March on Washington in August 1963.

Kennedy said that her husband, President John F. Kennedy, had urged her not to be judgmental about it.

“If you asked her what she thought of Martin Luther King overall… she admired him tremendously,” Caroline Kennedy told ABC’s Diane Sawyer.

“Obviously J. Edgar Hoover had passed on something that Martin Luther King said about my father’s funeral, to Uncle Bobby and to Mommy. And obviously, she was upset about that,” Caroline Kennedy added. “It shows you the poisonous … activities of J. Edgar Hoover.”

In the tapes, Jacqueline Kennedy also says that the president was anxious to dump FBI chief J. Edgar Hoover.

And the former first lady said her husband openly ridiculed the notion of Vice President Lyndon Baines Johnson succeeding him as president.

“Jack said it to me sometimes. He said, `Oh, God, can you ever imagine what would happen to the country if Lyndon were president?’” she said, according to the AP. “And Bobby told me that he’d had some discussions with him …do something to name someone else in 1968.”

Johnson became president after JFK’s assassination and was elected to a full term in 1964. He decided not to seek re-election in 1968.

The Daily Mail reported last month that she believed that Vice President Johnson was behind her husband’s assassination. ABC contended then that the Daily Mail’s report was inaccurate.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jaquelinekennedy; kennedy
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1 posted on 09/09/2011 7:43:05 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

I’m not sure she liked anyone....stuck in a loveless marriage, aloof....and that voice...


2 posted on 09/09/2011 7:46:11 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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This makes me laugh:

According to ABC, which has obtained the audio tapes and is hosting a two-hour Jackie Kennedy special on Sept. 13, the former first lady said King had arranged for an “orgy in the hotel” while in town for the March on Washington in August 1963.

Kennedy said that her husband, President John F. Kennedy, had urged her not to be judgmental about it.

3 posted on 09/09/2011 7:50:07 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Sacajaweau

Exactly. And more confirmation about “The hypocrite preacher man”


4 posted on 09/09/2011 7:50:35 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Just when you think the left can't get any loonier . . .)
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To: Sacajaweau

Do you think that voice was put on? Did she sound like that in later years?


5 posted on 09/09/2011 7:50:56 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom
Caroline Kennedy added. “It shows you the poisonous … activities of J. Edgar Hoover.”

ya...that's the ticket.
6 posted on 09/09/2011 7:51:11 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: beaversmom

King, Jr. was a Republican.


7 posted on 09/09/2011 7:52:07 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Perry/Bachmann 2012 - they can share hair care products.)
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To: mmichaels1970

Yea, blame it on J Edgar.


8 posted on 09/09/2011 7:52:17 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

If you read further you will find it was all J.Edgar Hoovers fault. /s


9 posted on 09/09/2011 7:52:35 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: mmichaels1970

The old “blame it on the tranny” defense. Works every time


10 posted on 09/09/2011 7:53:04 AM PDT by The_Sword_of_Groo ("No mind is thoroughly well organized that is deficient in a sense of humor.")
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To: beaversmom

I don’t get why Politico is reporting this as new stuff. Years ago Ralph Abernathy wrote about King’s nasty jokes all during the Kennedy funeral. We also know that Hoover arranged for RFK to find out exactly what King said. We also know that the Rev. was an adulterer. One of his women even wrote a book about their affair. No-one could call her a liar so most people simply ignored the book.


11 posted on 09/09/2011 7:53:57 AM PDT by stellaluna
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To: beaversmom

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Jacqueline_Kennedy/jacqueline-kennedys-feelings-martin-luther-king-jr-revealed/story?id=14478321


12 posted on 09/09/2011 7:53:57 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: normy

Pre-Bush and Palin being known quantities so it makes sense.


13 posted on 09/09/2011 7:54:28 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: mmichaels1970

LOL. God Forbid either of the Liberal Saints are at fault for their own actions. It was either Hoover or Nixon who somehow made them do it.


14 posted on 09/09/2011 7:54:58 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: beaversmom

I only heard her a couple of times....it sounded like a scatchy record.


15 posted on 09/09/2011 7:55:10 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: beaversmom
I wonder why the MSM is reporting this?

There is always a motive and I wonder why they would report something like this? Two big icons being smeared here. A Kennedy and MLK.

I'm suspicious.

16 posted on 09/09/2011 7:56:43 AM PDT by dragonblustar
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To: beaversmom

I am old enough to remember MLK, and I seem to remember a lot of him having marxist and communist connections. Wish the MSM would research that angle, and report that.


17 posted on 09/09/2011 7:58:09 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: beaversmom

#3-—”now I don’t care who ya are, that’s funny raht there....”


18 posted on 09/09/2011 8:02:03 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: beaversmom

Any normal American alive at that time loathed King. Pure media fraud. He has been pushed down our throats so that some may have a “hero.”


19 posted on 09/09/2011 8:02:18 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: beaversmom

Ahhhhhh, I understand.

Ms. Kennedy admired King tremendously. That thing she said about him being ‘terrble’ was J. Edgar Hoover’s fault...

;-)


20 posted on 09/09/2011 8:02:18 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: beaversmom
“... He said, `Oh, God, can you ever imagine what would happen to the country if Lyndon were president?’” she said, according to the AP. “And Bobby told me that he’d had some discussions with him …do something to name someone else in 1968.”

...and they did.

21 posted on 09/09/2011 8:03:54 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: beaversmom

Whatever, had he enough money Jackie would have married him.


22 posted on 09/09/2011 8:03:54 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: beaversmom

I wonder.

Was he talking about the orgy or that fact that he attended it?


23 posted on 09/09/2011 8:04:40 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: dragonblustar
The motive is to get their falling ratings up from zero..

It was no different back then than now lots of politicians were crooks..MLK was no more than another Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, the Flem Flam man..anyone can become a hero as long as the idea is planted..and that is what MLK did he and his followers made him a hero..He was a womanizer..

24 posted on 09/09/2011 8:05:29 AM PDT by PLD
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To: beaversmom

JFK was a horrible president who has been idolized since his murder.

I suspect he wouldn’t even have been reelected had he not been assainated.


25 posted on 09/09/2011 8:13:37 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: beaversmom

“she couldn’t look at a picture of him “without thinking…that man’s terrible.”

Hm. I feel exactly the same way about Obmam.


26 posted on 09/09/2011 8:14:23 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: beaversmom
I am seeing pictures and print all over the place about Caroline Kennedy ... I wonder if the MSM is trying to ‘acclimatize’ us to the idea of Caroline as Evita's VP option
27 posted on 09/09/2011 8:14:23 AM PDT by SMARTY (A claim for equality of material position can be met only by a government with totalitarian powers.)
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To: beaversmom

Well, I’m glad she said it to somebody, so that now, even though this is hardly breaking news, it still enters the record——it’s just further proof that none of these people really liked or respected one another, not the appointments, the next-in-lines, the carefully and cynically-chosen running mates, the political antagonists.
Even in this most openly divisive political atmosphere of my lifetime, the MSM still promotes a bogus “civility”, which almost suggests that we should return to the days when the political elites ‘merely’ engaged in gossip and mockery behind each other’s backs. It all fits hand-in-glove with the overall objective of rolling over for Obama’s agenda.


28 posted on 09/09/2011 8:16:28 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: SMARTY

Caroline has a book coming out regarding these interviews.


29 posted on 09/09/2011 8:18:46 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: mmichaels1970

Isn’t it interesting that Caroline is so vested in revisionist history; even to the detriment of her Mother’s memory.


30 posted on 09/09/2011 8:19:10 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: beaversmom
The unvarnished truth:

Kennedy also called King a “phony” and “tricky” during hours of chatty interviews with the historian Arthur Schlesinger

After a coat of shellac

“If you asked her what she thought of Martin Luther King overall… she admired him tremendously,” Caroline Kennedy told ABC’s Diane Sawyer.

31 posted on 09/09/2011 8:24:46 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: liberalh8ter
even to the detriment of her Mother’s memory.

Yes...the old "mom was too stupid to make her own judgement" excuse struck me as odd and cold.
32 posted on 09/09/2011 8:31:06 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: liberalh8ter

It’s also evident that she inherited the Kennedy family’s penchant for telling baldfaced lies without even breaking a sweat...


33 posted on 09/09/2011 8:32:19 AM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: beaversmom

Jackie would know: MLK Jr. had the same personal morals as her husband. She’s therefore right, he was a phony.


34 posted on 09/09/2011 8:39:52 AM PDT by Gen. Burkhalter
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To: beaversmom
This makes me laugh:
...the former first lady said King had arranged for an “orgy...”
...her husband... John F. Kennedy, had urged her not to be judgmental about it.

I thought I'd die laughing. I lived in DC at the time. Everyone knew JFK was a dog except her.

35 posted on 09/09/2011 8:40:07 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (To ACLU & its plaintiffs: Stop dragging the public into your personal struggle w/ God. -Mark Baisley)
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To: Zeppo

Uncle Teddy must have spent some quality time with this one.


36 posted on 09/09/2011 8:41:34 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: WayneS
Was he talking about the orgy or that fact that he attended it?

Maybe JFK just gave MLK a few phone numbers and let it go at that.

37 posted on 09/09/2011 8:43:11 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (To ACLU & its plaintiffs: Stop dragging the public into your personal struggle w/ God. -Mark Baisley)
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To: beaversmom

Good for her.

King worship here is so silly and uninformed

and some even like X...crazier still

man, academia sure got to the children


38 posted on 09/09/2011 8:43:19 AM PDT by wardaddy (Eric Clapton was never God, Dick Cheney is....get his book...he should have been President)
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To: mmichaels1970

I guess the liberal cause is more important than basic respect for ones dead mother.


39 posted on 09/09/2011 8:43:44 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: beaversmom
the former first lady said King had arranged for an “orgy in the hotel” while in town for the March on Washington in August 1963

A former boss of mine, now deceased, was in the national guard protecting the marchers on the march from Selma to Montgomery. He told me and others that every evening, when the marchers were camping, a car load of white hookers came screaming into the camp for King and the march leadership. I was told this probably 20 years after King's death. Point is, Jackie's assertion is not inconsistent from an account of one eyewitness that I knew.

40 posted on 09/09/2011 9:06:10 AM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: Netizen

I’m betting they’re going to sell some of Jackie’s things. You know how greed works!!


41 posted on 09/09/2011 9:15:45 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: beaversmom

Jacqueline Kennedy also says that the president was anxious to dump FBI chief J. Edgar Hoover.
No kidding Hoover knew all of the Kennedy mob ties.
Hoover also knew how much of a fake MLK was.


42 posted on 09/09/2011 10:10:24 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Vaduz
Get ready for the smears of Jackie Kennedy to begin. MLK’s history is out there with documentation for those that wish to obtain it. Albeit it has been scrubbed diligently on the Internet and in print,the real MLK can be found with statements by the FBI agents that taped MLK that have come out and made comments and the hoteliers that had MLK, Jr. at their places of business. A close friend of mine managed the Holiday Inn in Memphis and gave good reasons he was not staying at the Holiday Inn and at the Lorraine the night he died. It had to do with sex, non payment of a previous bill and the damage his entourage did the previous stay.
43 posted on 09/09/2011 10:48:13 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: beaversmom

I never saw King as anything but an opportunist.


44 posted on 09/09/2011 11:52:46 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Sacajaweau

I thought her stuff was already sold/auctioned off.


45 posted on 09/09/2011 1:32:58 PM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: vetvetdoug

Get ready for the smears of Jackie indeed the dems and msm needs the pity for MLK to keep their scam (elections) going and add in the white guilt mob and it makes it easy to scrub history.


46 posted on 09/10/2011 8:08:24 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: catfish1957

‘Allegations of Communist connections

J. Edgar Hoover, the director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, for years had been suspicious about potential influence of communists in social movements such as labor unions and civil rights.[152] Hoover directed the FBI to track King in 1957, and the SCLC as it was established (it did not have a full-time executive director until 1960);[46] its investigations were largely superficial until 1962, when it learned that one of King’s most trusted advisers was New York City lawyer Stanley Levison. The FBI found Levison had been involved with the Communist Party USA.[153]: 233 The FBI had observed his alienation from the Party leadership, but it feared he had taken a low profile in order to work as an “agent of influence” in order to manipulate King, a view it continued to hold despite its own reports in 1963 that Levison had left the Party.[153]:71–3 Another King lieutenant, Hunter Pitts O’Dell, was also linked to the Communist Party by sworn testimony before the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC).[154]

However, by 1976 the FBI had acknowledged that it had not obtained any evidence that King himself or the SCLC were actually involved with any communist organizations.[155]’

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King,_Jr.#FBI_and_wiretapping

‘In any event, the FBI has stated that at no time did it have any evidence that Dr. King himself was a communist or connected with the Communist Party. Dr. King repeatedly criticized Marxist philosophies in his writing and speeches. The present Deputy Associate Director of the FBI’s Domestic Intelligence Division, when asked by the Committee if the FBI ever concluded that Dr. King was a communist, testified, “No, sir, we did not.” ‘

http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/cointelpro/churchfinalreportIIIb.htm


47 posted on 09/14/2011 4:26:58 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Yes, he was a flawed man. Many great men are.

Does that make what he was fighting for invalid?.
No.

BTW, he was a Republican.


48 posted on 09/14/2011 4:28:18 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

You may have disliked him, but many Americans, black and white, admired him and supported what he was fighting for.

To say ‘any normal American loathed him’ is ridiculous. Even suspect to be honest.


49 posted on 09/14/2011 4:30:02 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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To: PLD

For all his flaws, he was no Sharpton or Jesse.

For all his flaws, he was still far superior to those two, who really are the worst and lowest type of racebaiter.


50 posted on 09/14/2011 4:31:39 AM PDT by the scotsman (I)
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