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Jerry Brown to decide fate of legislation targeting rifle sales
Sacramento Bee ^ | 9/9/11 | Jim Sanders

Posted on 09/09/2011 10:49:48 AM PDT by SmithL

California would retain records of rifle sales, as they do now for handguns, under legislation that is headed to Gov. Jerry Brown.

Assemblyman Mike Feuer, a Los Angeles Democrat who crafted the bill, said it would allow peace officers responding to a crime at a particular address to check via database whether any long-gun owners live there.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; communism; corruption; democrats; goldenstate; govtabuse; guncontrol; gunregistration; liberalfascism; liberalfasism; moonbeam; nannystate; rapeofliberty; tyranny; yourtaxdollarsatwork

1 posted on 09/09/2011 10:49:53 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL
So, instead of following normal procedures the cops will be tipped off to first call in an air strike.

Ol'Jer Brown is sure gettin' strange in his old age.

2 posted on 09/09/2011 10:52:38 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SmithL

Odd. Didn’t they say when passing the registration laws that it would never be used this way? ( tag for the sarcasm detection impaired goes here )


3 posted on 09/09/2011 10:52:57 AM PDT by Ingtar (Together we go broke (from a Pookie18 post))
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To: SmithL

Crap like this is why I put California Government on our DO NOT SELL TO list.


4 posted on 09/09/2011 10:53:11 AM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: SmithL

This is WRONG, BAD and should be DEFEATED.

If it succeeds with those NUTS who run Kalifornia, it will be run all over the Country.

The government has NO RIGHT to know what guns you own OR how you earn a living, or how much you make.

This is incremental fascism.


5 posted on 09/09/2011 10:53:50 AM PDT by ZULU ( Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam)
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To: SmithL

If you live in California, buy now. If the law is signed will Californians who buy rifles and shotguns out of state be reported to the Califascista regime?


6 posted on 09/09/2011 11:01:39 AM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: SmithL
Jerry Brown to decide fate of legislation targeting rifle sales...

Too bad, California rifle purchasers, it looks like the state's going to be keeping records on you...

7 posted on 09/09/2011 11:02:25 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: SmithL

Oh, I see, so we are the enemy...


8 posted on 09/09/2011 11:04:21 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: SmithL

Face it if you bought a gun (long or short) after the Brady Bill was passed your name is in a database that will be used at some time in the near future to track down gun owners and their guns. Here in CA all gun purchase records are required to be turned over to the state when that business goes under, don’t imagine that even old sales (as in decades old) will not be entered into the “system” for use by your friendly LEO in taking away your guns.


9 posted on 09/09/2011 11:05:00 AM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: SmithL

Another reason to support my theory that California is run by the insane. This State is the worst State to work or live in.


10 posted on 09/09/2011 11:07:32 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Logical me
This State is the worst State to work or live in.

Not when you still have New York and Massachusetts

11 posted on 09/09/2011 11:14:21 AM PDT by from occupied ga (your own government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: SmithL
Assemblyman Mike Feuer, a Los Angeles Democrat who crafted the bill, said it would allow peace officers responding to a crime at a particular address to check via database whether any long-gun owners live there

This moron thinks everybody who owns a long gun (or a firearm of any kind) has a criminal tendency to shoot a cop?

12 posted on 09/09/2011 11:17:32 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: trapped_in_LA
Even if the original records are destroyed (which they probably aren't) there are probably backups somewhere.

Since the records had to be retained for three days, and since there is always the chance that a particular computer will crash over that three day period, most computers are backed-up on a regular basis.

This information exists somewhere and can be used for whatever purpose the feds or state law enforcement deem they can get away with.

13 posted on 09/09/2011 11:19:39 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: SmithL

So they check, and they find out that someone with a rifle lives there. What’s next? They wait for SWAT?
“Officer....the neighbor’s dog pooped on my grass.”
“Just a minute, we have to run a check.....Oh my God!!!!He’s got an antique flintlock!!!! This is One Adam 12 to all units on all channels!!!!! He’s got a Fox Terrier and a flintlock!!!! Call for the ATF!!!!”


14 posted on 09/09/2011 11:21:43 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: trapped_in_LA
In regards to my personal firearms, the Federal government knows my name, Social Security number, and address. They have multiple 'passport'-style photographs of my face, multiple digital copies of my fingerprints, multiple samples of my signature, my local county Sheriff's confirmation of a local background check performed on me twice a month, and an FBI background check conducted for every NFA Form 1 and Form 4 I've ever submitted. They have copies of my checks to the US Dept of the Treasury that lists my cell phone number, address, MICR, bank account number and a handwriting sample of my penmanship where I wrote 'TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS'.

I don't care.

I'm not paranoid about them ever showing up at my house. Let them bring a warrant for what they already know that I possess.

When the Feds come knocking on your door to confiscate your guns, the solution is to not be at home. Simple.

Good bloody luck searching every square meter of the state of Nevada for anything that I don't want found: Thanks to GPS, anything I hide and never recover is more likely to become part of the fossil record than to ever be discovered by chance. Ought to make for some interesting discoveries by Archaeologists some 500,000,000 years from now.

15 posted on 09/09/2011 11:24:13 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: drypowder

[This moron thinks everybody who owns a long gun (or a firearm of any kind) has a criminal tendency to shoot a cop?]

Probably not now but that day may be coming soon.


16 posted on 09/09/2011 11:41:48 AM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: SmithL

Duh, of course he’s going to sign it.


17 posted on 09/09/2011 11:47:45 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Ingtar

Yup. I saw the writing on the wall and left in 95.


18 posted on 09/09/2011 11:48:20 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: 43north

Just my opinion; elected officials know they are regulating against the will of the people and totally realize that one day karma may happen to them.


19 posted on 09/09/2011 11:51:27 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: Ingtar
No, they meant they wouldn’t use this for confiscating guns from the law abiding – until they do.
20 posted on 09/09/2011 11:55:48 AM PDT by HammerT (The Obama Recession, you bone it you own it.)
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To: All

this is what you get when you elect Gov Moonbeam pt2.. I know it’s a very attractive place but why any freedom loving, productive individual chooses to stay in that state is beyond me.


21 posted on 09/09/2011 11:59:41 AM PDT by newnhdad
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To: SmithL

One wonders when it will finally permeate the thick skulls of the Dummycrats in the California legislature, with their “register this” and “ID for ammo” that, that the effing GANG MEMBERS do not register their rifles, do not register their hand guns, and do not make their own ammo purchases. They can pass all the liberty-restricting bills they want, and it won’t make a dime’s worth of difference to the safty of the law enforcement community, except to punish a law abiding citizen from exercising his Second Amendment rights.


22 posted on 09/09/2011 12:09:59 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Ronald Reagan: "our liberal friends....know so much that isn't so...")
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To: forgotten man

It depends on what state you go to. They check driver’s licenses and have different state laws at hand to check. I remember several years ago when buying just a box of .22’s in Illinois the clerk checked my DL against a list of states. I could buy ammo in Illinois being from the state of Washington but people in IL couldn’t buy unless they had a license to buy ammo. Weird.


23 posted on 09/09/2011 12:10:49 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Am The Person Whom I've Been Waiting For.)
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To: Right Cal Gal
They can pass all the liberty-restricting bills they want, and it won’t make a dime’s worth of difference to the safty of the law enforcement community, except to punish a law abiding citizen from exercising his Second Amendment rights.

That's their intent...justifying the infringement of your rights by using criminals as the root cause gets them the support of the non-gunowners that could care less. It's for the children. Nothing that a socialist, communist, tin pot dictator fears more than an armed citizenry

24 posted on 09/09/2011 12:23:01 PM PDT by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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To: muawiyah

I bought a shotgun here in Kali a few months ago, and I had to go through a background check before I could posses the gun. I assumed it was registered at the time as well, or was it registered? I really don’t know. I too am sick and tired of this tyranny. Confiscation is the only reason for such unconstitutional laws.


25 posted on 09/09/2011 1:08:50 PM PDT by Clovis_Skeptic (The answer to 1984 is 1776!)
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To: The KG9 Kid

“Good bloody luck searching every square meter of the state of Nevada for anything that I don’t want found: Thanks to GPS, anything I hide and never recover is more likely to become part of the fossil record than to ever be discovered by chance. Ought to make for some interesting discoveries by Archaeologists some 500,000,000 years from now.”

With this they have achieved their goal, instead of taking your guns they forced you to basically abandon them somewhere in the wild where neither you nor they can get easy access to them. That is the whole point after all.


26 posted on 09/09/2011 1:37:19 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: ZULU
There's no "incremental" about it. KKKalifornia has been quite fascistic ~ certainly since Earl Warren's day, and probably long before that.

The high water mark was undoubtedly reached the day someone noticed that the Indians had decided that it was better to live near a mission where the Spanish priests would be dictating their sex lives than out in the ville with their friends drinking corn beer and killing each other.

27 posted on 09/09/2011 2:58:54 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: from occupied ga
Even when you have New York and Massachusetts. The only place actually in the running for "worst" is Illinois. Used to be you could escape most of the craziness by avoiding Cook County, but that ended when they passed control of the city over to the Combots and their running dog lackeys.

You can't even have a baby in that state ~ you have to go to neighboring Indiana.

28 posted on 09/09/2011 3:02:16 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SkyDancer

I prefer living in a place where there’s some ammo just out on the shelves ready to buy, and NOBODY cares.


29 posted on 09/09/2011 3:05:24 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: trapped_in_LA
They'll have to go away sometime.

Hell, Whitey Bulger lived right there in the middle of Santa Monica for 20 years on the FBI's Most Wanted list and had at least 100 guns in his apartment.

What are you worried about?

30 posted on 09/09/2011 3:08:56 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: trapped_in_LA
They'll have to go away sometime.

Hell, Whitey Bulger lived right there in the middle of Santa Monica for 20 years on the FBI's Most Wanted list and had at least 100 guns in his apartment.

What are you worried about?

31 posted on 09/09/2011 3:08:56 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: muawiyah; All

Gun Registration is Gun Confiscation

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608785/posts


32 posted on 09/09/2011 3:31:22 PM PDT by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: SmithL

How many rifles do gang bangers use?

This shows the govts true intent


33 posted on 09/10/2011 5:35:11 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Let's apply the "reasonable man" standard to gun laws. How many would stand?)
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To: from occupied ga
I used to live in Massachusetts...Georgia is a little better. Well, on second thought, it is a lot better. But it is moving toward being only a little better. There seems to be a lot of people here who want to dictate how others should live their lives. That's how it is in the more totalitarian states like New York and Massachusetts. The sad part is, their plans to control people never really work out and you just end up with chaos (crime) and oppression and atheism...nothing to be proud of in the end.
34 posted on 09/13/2011 4:33:26 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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