Skip to comments.Religious groups deep in NM driver's license fight
Posted on 09/09/2011 4:48:04 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M.Churches and religious groups opposing the governor's renewed push to repeal a law allowing illegal immigrants to get driver's licenses say their actions are part of a larger and growing advocacy effort aimed at promoting immigration reform on moral grounds. Organizations like the New Mexico Catholic Conference of Bishops and the Albuquerque Interfaith were among those in Santa Fe this week to protest Gov. Susana Martinez's efforts to rescind the state law. They argue the measure helps one of the state's most vulnerable populations.
For months, these coalitions of interfaith groups have called on their members to attend rallies in New Mexico's capital city
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The golden calf crowd has been around as long as the ones that understand, obeying the law.
Once again the leftist mainline churches (Presbyterians, Methodists, Lutherans, Episcopals) doing the bidding of their Soros master as they are aborting their own progeny and promoting illegal immigration.
Were the many members of the Navajo Way...(the Navajo religion) attending this protest?? Or was this a protest to benefit the illegals who lie to get NM driver’s license?
She has a serious conflict of interest now that she has admitted to being the spawn of illegals.
Any church that decides that they want to play politics should begin by starting to “pay their fair share” of taxes. If they don’t want to “pay their fair share”, they need to shut the hell up and stay out of this fight.
They always seemed to have time, however, to preach from the pulpit how Mormons were a cult, Jehovah's Witnesses were a cult, Moonies were a cult, anyone who disagreed with their corrupt theology was a cult.
I can tell you now that I'd much rather have a Mormon, JW or a Moonie for a neighbor than one of their damn Somali Muslims, or an irresponsible ELCA moonbat for that matter either.
These churches will then have to face some reality.
I have been advocating this for the last 30+ years.
When politics gets preached from the pulpit or its extensions, that invalidates tax exemptions.
She is not responsible for her dead beat grandfather. The family is not sure of his immigration status because he abandoned the family when the governors father was young. The 1930 census records indicate “AL” in the “place of birth” field. AL means alien (born outside the United States). There is not proof that the dead beat grandfather was an illegal alien.
If the Catholic Church ever denies communion to Governor Martinez while giving communion to Nancy Pelosi-abortion my head will explode. Don’t ask me what I think about the Roman Catholic funeral that was given to Ted Kennedy.....
Catholics supporting abortion and sodomy = "social justice"
Of course she’s not responsible for things others did.
But she will still have a credibility problem with some when it comes to illegal alien issues. People will spin it both ways.
The situation is ironic because she has taken fairly strong positions against illegals.
The Catholic church is just awful on this issue. They pay lip service to condemning those who openly support abortionists, yet aggressively attack leaders and citizens for trying to protect their nation from law breaking aliens.
How do you feel about people whose grandfathers were:
Explain why it is SHE who has a conflict of interest.
Are there many people left in the ELCA? Could you say of hand how many people have left—10%, 20%, 30%? What have you done since you left your church?
Fully 37% of my vehicle insurance premiums are due to the cost of having insurance against UNINSURED motorists.
That amounts to over $400 a year for me.
Is the Catholic church going to send me a check of reimbursement???
They are definately part of the problem-—not part of the solution.
God’s Word clearly states to obey the laws of the land and these illegals have not. These liberal churches ignore that - so they can take their ‘moral grounds’ somewhere else - they want to reward disobedience to God’s Word and to the law of the land. They have no firm ground to stand on.
They forgot the stake though.
No one but no one has a right to a DL. The churches including my own Catholic church need to pick which hill to die on. This ain’t it. If someone said that illegal immigrants should not be allowed to have emergency humanitarian care I would oppose that. But a DL as a human right? Heck no.
Oh, cut me a break.
The derogatory 'wop' against Italian immigrants was an acronym of With Out Papers.
So are the children of those immigrants 'spawn of illegals'?
Or is that slur reserved for Hispanics from that era?
As some have noted, illegal immigration becomes a problem in a welfare state.
Not in the era of Martinez's grandparents.
You are right.
But the Bible also does say
moonshiner_09: These churches have become very misguided,they ignore key parts of the bible, these churches act more like they worship a false God, for the one they speak of here, does not condone, document fraud, lying,stealing,cheating, so on, etc,etc,etc.
presently no screen name: Gods Word clearly states to obey the laws of the land and these illegals have not. These liberal churches ignore that - so they can take their moral grounds somewhere else - they want to reward disobedience to Gods Word and to the law of the land. They have no firm ground to stand on.
I was pretty sure before this thread that the Bible’s commands to welcome and be kind to visitors and strangers in your land applied to the illegal aliens, and that BOTH:
1) the USA’s laws
2) the illegal aliens themselves
... were wrong.
Now I’m not so sure about #2, since we have so many laws that contradict in that:
1) they are illegal
2) they can go to our schools, get benefits, ...
BTW, I love the organization entitled "The New Mexico Catholic Conference Of Bishops" which, as of Monday, will consist of exactly 2 people.
Some of them joined other Lutheran denominations. Others joined various denominations-- Catholics, Mormons, you name it. To a person, all of them are happier since they left.
I've church hopped myself, mostly at the invitation of these friends, sometimes on my own. Anytime I hear some horse's arse rave about this or that brand being a cult, I figure the brand they are raving most loudly about is probably on the right track because I was in a corrupt libtard cult which spent a great deal of time raving about others being a cult.
I think I can recognize a cult better than any of them. The first sign that a church is turning into a cult is when they start substituting the libtard philosophies of man for the doctrines of Jesus Christ. Sort of like these "activists" are doing in New Mexico.
You want to help the people of Mexico? Fine. Go down there and build churches. Help villages dig wells. Send your missionaries to preach whatever brand of Christianity most inspires you. But don't expect your neighbors and fellow citizens to pick up the tab for those who sneaked in just so you can get your lawn mowed for cheap or fill your pews.
If you want to help those already here, help them get legalized and understand what it means to be an American. Or volunteer to tutor them in English. In other words, use your own time and money. Don't steal it from your fellow citizens. That's what these PC cult churches are doing.
Liberal wackos in action.
This is not “church” business; its way left politics.
Some of these church groups are getting taxpayer money to run their illegal alien schemes. Catholic Charities is one of the biggest assistants to illegals and they get lots of federal money. We have to get a hold of the federal purse and pull the purse strings tight, then when the money is cut off much of this mischief will come to an end. Isn’t it infuriating that our own money is going to those taking our country away from us.
So she has a problem because her paternal grandfather came across the river in the 1920's, before razor-wire fences, border patrol officers every hundred yards and half-mile long daily lines at border bridges, and then deserted the family?
Get real. Her family raised her right (an armed security guard at 17), a law school graduate who took on corruption in Las Cruces courts, and won election and reelection as a Republican DA in a Democratic stronghold.
So tell us what her conflict of interest is from events that occurred 90 years ago.
The Catholic Church is really not much different from all the rest of the “organized religions.” Sadly, they have devolved into “businesses” and the pander to those who will give them money or power (or both). While we’re at it, let’s give the Mormons a high five for having Harry Reid as a member.
STAY OUT OF THIS, CHURCHES!! Especially the Catholic Church!! What business do they have butting into a DRIVERS LICENSE ISSUE!
———What business do they have butting into a DRIVERS LICENSE ISSUE——
The illegals are their congregants
This is the reason for separation from the get go.
As a Catholic, this sickens me....I’d like to have them fight against ABORTION like this.