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Giuliani assails Obama on terrorism [Republican Response 9/10/11]
YahooNews ^ | Sept. 10, 2011 | Staff

Posted on 09/10/2011 10:16:25 AM PDT by La Enchiladita

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This was a great and appropriate response. Giuliani speaks for me.
1 posted on 09/10/2011 10:16:31 AM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: All

AMERICANS FOR A MUSLIM FREE AMERICA.

WE LEARNED ALL WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT ISLAM ON 9/11


2 posted on 09/10/2011 10:19:55 AM PDT by troy McClure
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To: La Enchiladita

I know Giuliani is not popular on FR, and he certainly is no perfect conservative, but he is a hell of a man, a hero, and one of the best spokespeople we have on many critical conservative issues. He applied many true conservative solutions to the NYC government, adding many levels of accountability and performance measures to ensure the city’s employees do their jobs effectively, and eliminating the ineffective.

On foreign policy and strength on the post 9/11 war on radical islam, he is fantastic. We need to tip our cap when it is due. Rudy was a great hero during and after the 9/11 attacks.


3 posted on 09/10/2011 11:06:15 AM PDT by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: ilgipper

I know the lurkers are waiting and watching to see if I will get banned for posting this message from Giuliani but I don’t care. I listened to him this morning and I would vote for him for President in a heartbeat. He has got it right about fighting against the jihad and FOR freedom.

His conservative solutions are that the social issues should be decided state by state. Is that so bad? Is he wrong?

And you are right that he cleaned up NYC and did so with a firm and sure hand.

I didn’t post this to campaign for him but because he is, right now, a lone voice versus the current usurper and I appreciate that the GOP chose Giuliani as their spokesman on this solemn weekend.


4 posted on 09/10/2011 11:14:40 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (Jihad THIS!! America Forever!!! Let's Roll!!)
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To: La Enchiladita

The difference between Obama’s response to Ft. Hood massacre and the Gillibrand massacre tells me all I need to know about Obama. His Muslim roots show in all things.


5 posted on 09/10/2011 11:15:09 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: ilgipper
I know Giuliani is not popular on FR, and he certainly is no perfect conservative, but he is a hell of a man, a hero, and one of the best spokespeople we have on many critical conservative issues.

+1.
6 posted on 09/10/2011 11:32:46 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: La Enchiladita

Bloomberg would have banned airplanes and spent his time making sure there was no salt in any of the meals donated to the rescue workers.


7 posted on 09/10/2011 11:42:04 AM PDT by digger48
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To: Condor51; stephenjohnbanker; calcowgirl; AuntB; Tennessee Nana
2008 Giuliani was all about saying one thing and doing another. Giulie kept “saying” he would NOT enter early primaries and caucuses (where those dreaded conservatives lurked). But he entered and lost all of them. Giulie said he was “saving himself” for Fla where all the New York snowbirds spend the winter.....registered to vote in two locations. Giulie campaigned 63 days straight in Fla and came in a distant third. He spent about $60 million and got zero delegates.

Perry’s campaign MO is looking more and more like Loser MO Giuliani used. Perry DID NOT enter Iowa——but manipulated the vote from afar. That strategy was supposed to put him over the top. Instead he got 700-800 votes....while Iowa winners who did the right thing-—spending time and money there-—— got 4000 votes each. The Perrydactyl's "said" Ricky won Iowa. And there Perry was----front and center---waving to Iowans, taking pics in front of prominent Iowa banners---manipulating people to make them think he was the winner.

Same with the debate---manipulating people, to make them think he was the winner....when he screwed up royally. Even though I am not a Perry supporter, I felt sorry that he could not come up with cogent answers. Several of his responses were non sequiturs and he repeated himself couple times. Perry dropping "g's" was also disconcerting, as were the hesitations and struggles to find the correct word.

For an unabashedly proud law-and-order man bragging about relentless Texas executions, Perry is too blasé about the real threats to Americans by law-breaking illegals who fill our jails. Perry's illegal-coddling is an outrage----when we know illegal crimes are vast and savage AND directed towards innocent Americans.

8 posted on 09/10/2011 12:00:51 PM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: ilgipper; La Enchiladita

I remember the “clean up” Rudy did to NYC. I was born in the Bronx in 1970 and we moved to Long Island in 1980.

When we lived in the Bronx we would never think of going to NYC. That toilet just got dirtier and dirtier.....until Rudy stepped in.

EVERYONE hated him for his “clean up”, when I say “clean up” I mean it both literally and figuratively. He took that dump and made it into the great bustling city is USED to be.

Bloomturd is destroying that bit by bit. Too bad. It used to be a nice place to visit, but the bums are back. I only go there now for a Tea Party, a mooslimb mosque protest or to catch an Amtrak to DC.


9 posted on 09/10/2011 12:15:13 PM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being beheaded." Andrew Klavan of PJTV)
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To: Liz

Go live in another country, why doncha. Oh, try Libya or Egypt for example. I’m sure they will let you post on FR from there and you can tell us all about it.

Otherwise, your “opinion” of Giuliani is worthless on this 10th anniversary of 9/11. And why bring Perry into it? But, like the liberals, you can’t pass up an opportunity to aggrandize your “point of view,” whether it’s an appropriate time and occasion or not.

Feh!


10 posted on 09/10/2011 1:05:31 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Jihad THIS!! America Forever!!! Let's Roll!!)
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To: La Enchiladita; Liz
"American security requires a long-term military presence in the part of the world where people and organizations are plotting to kill us,"

Projected business revenues for Giuliani's enterprises must be declining.

11 posted on 09/10/2011 1:19:27 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Sapere Aude!" --Immanuel Kant)
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To: calcowgirl; Condor51; stephenjohnbanker; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; South40; org.whodat; ...

Perry endorses Giuliani's 2008 bid for president.

Does Giuliani still have that Texas-based law firm, Bracewell & Giuliani? And does Bracewell & Giuliani still have two offices in Kazakhstan......which is a former Soviet Union state, the only Central Asian country sharing borders with both Russia and China, a with states of nuclear-transit significance such as Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, and Kyrgyzstan?

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REFERENCE Circa 2/07 Washington Post notes that Giuliani Capital Advisors “was sold for an undisclosed amount as Giuliani was preparing his run for president.” The Post article also discloses that Giuliani’s secretive lobbying firm, Giuliani Partners, has made more than $100 million over the last five years and that its clients “are required to sign confidentiality agreements, so they do not comment about the work they receive or how much they are paying for it.

Though now running for president, Giuliani refuses to identify his clients, disclose his compensation or reveal any details about Giuliani Partners. He also declined to be interviewed about the firm.” The paper provided some details, based “on a review of corporate, government and court records, along with scores of interviews with clients and government officials who have interacted with Giuliani Partners.”

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More accurately, Giuliani is selling one of the several businesses he is involved in, revolving around investment banking, global security, and international legal representation. Giuliani companies (that we know of) include:

(1) Giuliani Capital Advisors, LLC (AKA Giuliani Partners LLC),

(2) Giuliani Group,

(3) Giuliani-Kerik (re-named Giuliani Security and Safety, after the departure of the tainted ex-Police Commissioner),

(4) Giuliani-Van Essen, and,

(5) Bracewell & Giuliani LLP law firm (based in Texas with global interests).

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Attorneys Bracewell & Giuliani’s January Closings in Kazakhstan Total US $1.625 Billion
lawfuel.com | February 22, 2007
FR Posted on 02/26/2007 by Jim Robinson
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791780/posts

ALMATY, Kazakhstan— LAWFUEL - Law News, US Law Firms —Bracewell & Giuliani LLP closed three cases in January for a total of US $1.625 billion, acting as international counsel for the offering of corporate debt and solidifying their place as the premier legal authority on Kazakhstani business affairs in the Caspian region. “We continue to thrive and grow in Kazakhstan, mirroring the country itself,” said Greg Vojack, managing partner for the firm’s offices in Kazakhstan. “As Kazakhstan transitions into a prosperous free marketplace after the fall of Soviet Russia, its fine-tuned monetary policies are helping the country’s financial sectors grow faster than New York.” ~snip~

Established in 1994, Bracewell’s presence in the Republic of Kazakhstan has helped clients capture significant opportunities in the Caspian Region. The firm’s energy and finance attorneys provided groundbreaking guidance to create the legal and financial infrastructure in that emerging nation and today actively advise energy and financial companies in the region and the government of Kazakhstan. ~snip~

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Questions are being raised over Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani's policy on terrorism, after a report revealed he has strong ties to two foreign investment consortia working to own or lease U.S. toll roads, including the Mexican--Trans-Texas Corridor 35, which is identified as part of the I-35 "NAFTA Superhighway." --SNIP--

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March 1, 2007
REFERENCE Bracewell & Giuliani Firm Advises Spain's Cintra in First Privatization of Toll Road in Texas

DALLAS Bracewell & Giuliani LLP advised Cintra Concesiones de Infraestructuras de Transporte, S.A., a Spanish transportation company, in its successful bid to develop State Highway 121 into a toll road through Collin and Denton counties.

The award to Cintra, approved by the Texas Transportation Commission, is the first privatization of a Texas toll road. Bracewell is acting as project counsel to Cintra with respect to the 50-year concession from the Texas Department of Transportation. Cintra will pay a $2.1 billion upfront and annual lease payments totaling $700 million. "Cintra was awarded this project because of its proven expertise and competitive proposal," said Thomas O. Moore, partner with Bracewell & Giuliani. "This is the largest transportation deal of 2007. This is one of only five deals in the country."

Three firms have competed for the Comprehensive Development Agreement for State Highway 121 since last summer. The proposals were reviewed and scored based on selection criteria set forth by the Regional Transportation Council, the metropolitan planning agency for the Dallas-Fort Worth area.

This CDA is a public-private partnership that allows the provider to handle all facets of developing the toll road, including completing construction and operating and maintaining the corridor.

Cintra, a subsidiary of Grupo Ferrovial specialized in toll roads and car parks, is one of the world's leading private-sector developers of transport infrastructure.

FR POSTED http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1803916/posts

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TX governor Perry rapped for paving way for construction of Trans-Texas Corridor
One News Now | August 24, 2007 | Chad Groening
FR Posted on 08/25/2007 by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Texas Governor Rick Perry is being called to task by an author and investigative journalist for vetoing bills that would have blocked construction of the controversial Trans-Texas Corridor--- which will be part of a superhighway -- purported to be four football fields wide -- that will allow Mexican trucks to enter the U.S. and traverse the core of the country all the way to Canada.

Governor Perry cleared the way for construction to begin in Texas when he vetoed several bills passed by the Legislature that would have stalled the project.

The Texas Legislature voted a two-year moratorium, and voted a redefinition of eminent domain -- Perry vetoed them. [On] at least one of those measures, he waited until the Texas Legislature was out of session so it couldn't even override his veto. The Federal Highway Administration's lawyer wrote letters threatening the Texas Legislature to cut off federal highway funds if they got in the way of this Trans-Texas Corridor.

NOTE Perry used eminent domain to take property from Texans to give to Cintra Concesiones de Infraestructuras de Transporte, S.A., a Spanish transportation company, in its successful bid to develop State Highway 121 into a toll road through Collin and Denton counties (the "trade road" is four football fields wide).

Approved by the Texas Transportation Commission, it is the first privatization of a Texas toll road. Bracewell & Giuliani LLP (Rudy Giuliani's Texas-based law firm with global connections) is acting as project counsel to Cintra with respect to the 50-year concession from the Texas Department of Transportation.

12 posted on 09/10/2011 1:50:35 PM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: Liz

Perry endorsed Giuliani, Palin endorsed Rand Paul, DeMint endorsed Romney.

You sure are pathetic, getting worked up over endorsements and posting spam that no one reads. Your life must be so meaningless if that is what you care about.


13 posted on 09/10/2011 1:55:50 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Jihad THIS!! America Forever!!! Let's Roll!!)
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To: Liz

Are you ‘spamming’ again? s/


14 posted on 09/10/2011 1:56:07 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts

Thanks to patriotic Americans like Rudy Giuliani and George W. Bush, America is safe.... even for brain-damaged clueless spammers.


15 posted on 09/10/2011 1:58:34 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Jihad THIS!! America Forever!!! Let's Roll!!)
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To: La Enchiladita
Thanks to patriotic Americans like Rudy Giuliani and George W. Bush, America is safe.... even for brain-damaged clueless spammers.

I am not into 'man' worship. God is who I give thanksgiving for my and this nation's safety. I have NOT a clue exactly what Rudy has done to keep me safe.... Who was the NYC mayor on 9/11, cause I guess my brain damage prevents me from knowing all that you claim to know?

YOU all by yourself demonstrated who you are by your liberal trash talk about 'brain-damaged' clueless spammer. YOU can go pound the proverbial sand.

16 posted on 09/10/2011 2:08:46 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: La Enchiladita

Extremely weak McCainiac thinking.

This is totally out of touch with the concerns of American people in regards to Obama’s domestic war on terror which he has made into a war on the American people he and his communist pals hate and against all of our constitutional rights and governance in the name of “safety.”

In the tradition of this country’s Leftist termites, Obama has taken up the cause of Islam aggression against the Americans and our freedom in the name of appeasing Islamic aggression. Political correctness is what Obama has installed and it led to the murder of Fort Hood soldiers and it will lead to more terror attacks in the US.

The war on terror has been expanded beyond the military. Obama, in his complete disrespect and hatred of America, has turned Homeland Security against America. It would have been fine for him to inform the public that if Obama only leaves 3,000 troops in Iraq, they will be in danger when radicals/Iran attacks and that 10,000 are needed for them to be able to survive attacks in that country.

The GOP’s constant, mindless war mongering favored by McCain has to stop. We have allies to protect. We have ourselves to protect. What the heck are we doing in Lybia helping radical Muslims take over that country and it’s weapons in a civil war? So the Islamists can conduct wars with State power against Israel and the US? That is mindless, kneejerk abuse of our military and an politically correct, insane pro Islam foreign policy installed by Obama and abetted by McCain.


17 posted on 09/10/2011 2:10:53 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Liz; org.whodat; cripplecreek; TADSLOS; BobL; raybbr; truthfreedom; CowboyJay; stephenjohnbanker; ..
How dare you!


18 posted on 09/10/2011 2:12:00 PM PDT by South40 (Perry: There is a path to citizenship for ILLEGAL ALIENS who have served THEIR country)
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To: La Enchiladita

NYC going downhill again. Sure do wish he was mayor again.


19 posted on 09/10/2011 2:13:39 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: SaraJohnson

Giuliani’s message is what we need to hear today; it worked for me.
If you listened to ALL of his message this morning, Giuliani does NOT support Obama’s approach.
I looked for the transcript but the leftist search engines google and yahoo make it difficult.
If you can find the entire transcript or recording, let me know.


20 posted on 09/10/2011 2:37:02 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Jihad THIS!! America Forever!!! Let's Roll!!)
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To: Just mythoughts

I don’t expect you to understand everything I say, nor even agree. But I am appalled that posters on the internet’s premier conservative forum cannot even appreciate what our leaders at the time accomplished on 9/11/01, and set aside some of their other differences out of respect.


21 posted on 09/10/2011 2:39:33 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Jihad THIS!! America Forever!!! Let's Roll!!)
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To: La Enchiladita
I don’t expect you to understand everything I say, nor even agree. But I am appalled that posters on the internet’s premier conservative forum cannot even appreciate what our leaders at the time accomplished on 9/11/01, and set aside some of their other differences out of respect.

I cannot respond because I have gone silent on what is still taking place on the ground as result of 9/11/01 by our volunteer military. I do not talk about it nor will I discuss in real time at this moment what is happening as opposed to what did happen. And if I were to speak freely you most likely would call me 'brain-damaged' because I was not bending a knee to some so called leader. Oh just for the record, I have NO ill words for President Bush and the military actions he took... and out of respect for the loss of life I won't go political on the domestic peril he left US to deal.

22 posted on 09/10/2011 2:50:18 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: La Enchiladita

I’ll see if I can find it. Thanks for the head’s up.


23 posted on 09/10/2011 3:00:15 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Just mythoughts; calcowgirl
It's too bad Rooty was not a teensy weensy bit smarter---he might have prevented 9/11.

A Big Clue was the previous NYC terror bombing---

I guess Rooty was too busy gallivanting around, giving illegals sanctuary, writing out donations to, and being guest speaker, at pro-abort groups, heading up gay pride parades, escorting his mistress around town while his wife and kids were living in Gracie Mansion...........and other stuff.

24 posted on 09/10/2011 3:24:21 PM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: La Enchiladita; Liz; calcowgirl
Perry endorsed Giuliani, Palin endorsed Rand Paul, DeMint endorsed Romney.

Defending a Rudybot by attacking your fellow FReepers - now THAT is pathetic.

25 posted on 09/10/2011 3:30:05 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: Liz

Oh, Liz! For heaven’s sake!

Do you live in the five boroughs?

Is it better now than it was in 2001?


26 posted on 09/10/2011 3:33:23 PM PDT by Jim Noble (To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)
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To: La Enchiladita

I give up. Can’t find a transcript of his speech anywhere. :(


27 posted on 09/10/2011 3:34:47 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: South40

You know, I bet that guy and Perry would pass for twins, if they were the same age, he looks about the pom,/pom age.


28 posted on 09/10/2011 4:29:26 PM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: SaraJohnson

Here is the whole thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=223MKlYYKkg


29 posted on 09/10/2011 4:31:37 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Sapere Aude!" --Immanuel Kant)
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To: Liz
It's nice to know that when the nouveau-riche strivers in the bedroom communities of McKinney and Plano need to catch a plane out of DFW, they have to pay a toll to the King of Spain if they want to get to the airport the same morning, courtesy of Bracewell & Giuliani LLP and their client/patron/bagboy Rick Perry.
30 posted on 09/10/2011 5:21:00 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: calcowgirl

I found it here http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/301370-1, too. Thanks for looking for me. That was kind of you.

He mentioned the dangers of political correctness and he also mentioned that it killed soldiers at Fort Hood.

He did not acknowledge the overkill at the airports with sexually molesting and harassing Americans but that might fall under the category of using political correctness rather than truth/criminal science which he made clear he understands.


31 posted on 09/10/2011 5:25:56 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Liz
It's too bad Rooty was not a teensy weensy bit smarter---he might have prevented 9/11. A Big Clue was the previous NYC terror bombing---

Well, that's a little bit too tough IMHO, after seeing again PBS's Frontline story, "The Man Who Knew", about 9/11, on its recent rebroadcast.

Giuliani and many other people were being Gorelicized by Chinese walls intended to protect the vast crimes of Slick and Beast and the rest of the Permanent Government, and the FBI in particular was crippled by State Department drones and FBI midlevels going nuclear on their office-political agenda internally, so that efforts against Al Q'aeda were partially blinded and hamstrung internally.

Besides, Rudy was mayor of New York (might be an idea for him to run again and drive the crooked unions berserk), and so had relatively less to do with the effort against international terrorists.

Notwithstanding that his New York politics and lifestyle were more Bohemian than American, as you point out.

32 posted on 09/10/2011 5:48:36 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: South40

Uh, no....I won’t leave Rick Perry alone : )


33 posted on 09/10/2011 7:07:28 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: La Enchiladita

Julie-Annie is another idiot narcissist RINO.

NO BODY has YET to define what “WINNING” is in Afghanistan OR Iraq.

My definition of “winning” in both places was removing the regimes which were a major threat to the countries around them and to us. We did that already.

Bush’s, Julie-Annie’s and even Obama’s idea of “winning” has yet to be defined.

If by “WINNING” we mean changing these societies into pro-western civilized states with responsible governments, we are out of our minds. As long as they are Muslim tribal societies, the BEST we can hope for is to make them FEAR us enough so they will be less supportive of terrorists. And we DON’T do that by keeping a military presence there, ostensibly to “civilize” them and carry on some kind of mindless police action with our hands tied behind our backs because of “rules of engagement”.

Bush II made a big mistake committing American lives and money in these rat holes after we took out Saddam and the Taliban. We should have left at that point and let them sort out the rubble all by themselves. Instead we stayed and lost a lot Americans and American money for nothing.

As soon as we pull out of both places they will revert to the only kind of society Muslims are capable of creating.


34 posted on 09/10/2011 8:36:13 PM PDT by ZULU ( Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam)
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To: South40

LOL!


35 posted on 09/10/2011 9:09:40 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: South40

Classic!
36 posted on 09/11/2011 4:57:28 AM PDT by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out consevatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: Liz
Okay, ya better stop it, you're making the Perrybots go apoplectic and have seizures.

Some people just can't handle the truth.
(The Emperor has glorious new clothes and that's that!)

37 posted on 09/11/2011 5:02:19 AM PDT by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out consevatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: Condor51
Apopletic, you say? Better get out the defibrillators for this one.


38 posted on 09/11/2011 5:17:10 AM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: Liz

You're bad ;-)
39 posted on 09/11/2011 5:22:48 AM PDT by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out consevatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: Liz

That is funny


40 posted on 09/11/2011 5:30:05 AM PDT by BRL
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To: La Enchiladita

Post Giuliani New York has proven to be basically a progressive sewer. It makes one wonder if the effort to rebuild was really a good thing. The crap the Mayor is displaying now makes one wonder. New York city is bad for America


41 posted on 09/11/2011 5:43:01 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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To: BRL; Condor51; rintense; South40; cripplecreek; Grampa Dave; LucyT; GOPJ; freeangel; ixtl; ...

42 posted on 09/11/2011 5:44:54 AM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: La Enchiladita

I am a lurker - guilty as charged.

I agree with you 100 percent. I am not a Giuliani for President type - however I am extremely grateful that he cleaned up NYC.

Mr. Stonehouse is reading his book right now.

I have a personal interest as my daughter attends college in lower Manhattan although we are Hudson Valley upstaters.


43 posted on 09/11/2011 5:49:38 AM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: Sacajaweau

Amen


44 posted on 09/11/2011 5:50:35 AM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: Liz

I agree - I am pro life, etc.

However - Rudy could not have prevented 9/11 - that was for the feds. And read history - the Spaniards (battle of Lepanto) had a hard time stopping the Turks and so did the Austrians. This is difficult.

Islam is here to take down America - Rudy did his best


45 posted on 09/11/2011 6:15:14 AM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: Liz

I agree - I am pro life, etc.

However - Rudy could not have prevented 9/11 - that was for the feds. And read history - the Spaniards (battle of Lepanto) had a hard time stopping the Turks and so did the Austrians. This is difficult.

Islam is here to take down America - Rudy did his best


46 posted on 09/11/2011 6:15:19 AM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: stonehouse01

On September 12th 1683 the Ottoman Empire tried to take down Austria.

Ottoman empire = the turks = Islam


47 posted on 09/11/2011 6:20:48 AM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: stonehouse01

Sorry for the double post


48 posted on 09/11/2011 6:23:32 AM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: SaraJohnson

Sara, you haven’t been at FR all that long, but I have to tell you, your posts are always insightful, and well reasoned. You have been blessed with common sense..... “common” sense.....talk about an oxymoron : )

Have a great Sunday!


49 posted on 09/11/2011 6:37:48 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stonehouse01; Condor51; calcowgirl; stephenjohnbanker; thouworm; Grampa Dave
Rudy could not have prevented 9/11 - Rudy did his best...

I disagree.

Prior to 9/11, previous terror suicide attacks against the US included: the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. The 2000 bombing of the USS Cole and the 1998 bombing of the U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya and Dar es Salaam in Tanzania.

Some of the thoughts that continually haunt me:

<><> Why Rudy placed a prime target---the Mayor's Office of Emergency Mgmt-----smack dab in the WTC?

<><> Why 343 firefighters had to die standing in the WTC lobby ostensibly sent to "fight a fire" in a bldg struck by an airliner?

<><> Why no one listened when someone spoke up that terrorists in flight school said they wanted to learn how to takeoff---not how to land an aircraft?

<><> What happened to Giuliani's tax-exempt "charity" the "Twin Towers Fund". As we all recall, very publicly, for maximum PR impact, Rooty ripped up a huge Saudi check made on behalf of victims of 9/11. Later, Giuliani accepted huge Saudi checks made out to his consulting business, "Giuliani Partners.” The original Saudi check was made out to the "Twin Towers Fund"

Rudy appointed to the "charity's" Board of Directors Arnold Schwarzenegger and Judith Nathan who was then Rooty's mistress. Giulaini referred to Miss Nathan as a philanthropist. Mr Schwarzenegger used the tax-exempt "Twin Towers Fund" to help him launch his profit-making movie, "Collateral Damage," with Rudy and his entourage joining in on the gala premiere event.

The president of the International Association of Fire Fighters, said Giuliani gives every indication of using the Twin Towers Fund to maintain a staff of loyal supporters and to advance his political aspirations.

Giuliani then agreed to distribute the $100 million remaining in the city's "Twin Towers Fund" to the families of 430 uniformed and civilian rescuers killed on Sept. 11.

Now the ex-mayor---Giuliani's pledge came after weeks of criticism about his plans for the Twin Towers money, including threats of a lawsuit from police widows. The decision by the former mayor, who formed the Twin Towers Fund within days of the attack.

The move was a substantial victory for the families of the rescuers, many of whom have criticized Giuliani's efforts to privatize the fund, hire a staff of 12 to oversee its work and perhaps take months or even years to disburse its millions.

It remained uncertain if New York State's AG and the courts would approve the transfer of the $100 million Twin Towers Fund to the private charity of the same name that is controlled by Mr. Giuliani.

In recent weeks, while seeking control of the $100 million, Mr. Giuliani asserted that he had a ''sacred obligation'' to the families of the dead rescuers, and he suggested that fiscal prudence demanded a measured approach to distributing the money, taking perhaps as long as three years.

The police widows agreed to abandon their threats of a court fight to oppose the formal transfer of the $100 million to Giuliani.....and also agreed not to oppose Giuliani's continued control of roughly $15 million he has raised since leaving office in his new "private charity."

50 posted on 09/11/2011 7:09:27 AM PDT by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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