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Fires reported at North Dakota, Minnesota sugar plants
pioneer press ^ | 9-10-11 | ap

Posted on 09/10/2011 12:23:29 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB

GRAND FORKS, N.D. - Locked-out union workers at American Crystal Sugar Co. are blaming fires at plants in Drayton and in East Grand Forks, Minn., on inexperienced replacement workers hired to take over harvesting duties.

Company spokesman Jeff Schweitzer said the fires happened in pulp dryers Thursday at the plant in Drayton and on Friday at the East Grand Forks plant. No one was hurt.

East Grand Forks Fire Chief Randy Gust said a pulp dryer fire isn't unusual and that his department responds to about one each year.

Union spokesman Mark Froemke said the company won't share information about the fires. The union has argued that only their workers have the experience to run the plants.

(Excerpt) Read more at twincities.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: arson; fire; fires; lockout; mn; strike; sugar; sugarplantfires; union; unions; unionthugs
previous related: Labor fight in sugar beet land

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2754161/posts

1 posted on 09/10/2011 12:23:33 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB
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To: WOBBLY BOB
Locked-out union workers at American Crystal Sugar Co. are blaming fires at plants in Drayton and in East Grand Forks, Minn., on inexperienced replacement workers hired to take over harvesting duties.

Sure, and I'm the queen of England.

5.56mm

2 posted on 09/10/2011 12:27:39 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I’m a cynic. I think they were caused by fired/laid off union workers, but then what do I know?


3 posted on 09/10/2011 12:28:01 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: WOBBLY BOB

This is the Union violence demanded by Jimmy Hoffa.
The MSM will never mention it.


4 posted on 09/10/2011 12:31:01 PM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: basil

I wonder what union it is. The article didn’t reveal that. Not that it matters that much - they’re all vicious, although some of them really go over the top.


5 posted on 09/10/2011 12:31:27 PM PDT by livius
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To: basil

Union members are locked out, unable to access former work areas... can’t sabotage things they can’t get to.


6 posted on 09/10/2011 12:34:06 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Sounds like more union destruction of property. This is beginning to be a pattern.


7 posted on 09/10/2011 12:35:17 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Yeah.

Riiiiiiiiight!


8 posted on 09/10/2011 12:37:00 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: WOBBLY BOB

- The union has argued that only their workers have the experience to run the plants.

This may be true, but it may be more cost effective for the company to fix the damage caused by inexperienced workers than to keep this union.


9 posted on 09/10/2011 12:38:53 PM PDT by Nonsense Unlimited
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To: Keith in Iowa
Union members are locked out, unable to access former work areas... can’t sabotage things they can’t get to.

Strikers are famous for setting little destructive booby traps for the workers who take over after they strike. I thought everyone knew that.

10 posted on 09/10/2011 12:39:50 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
Unions would never sabotage the machinery of rich fat-cat owners.

Would they?

11 posted on 09/10/2011 12:42:21 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: catfish1957

Lockout has been going on for long enough for anything like that to have surfaced before now.


12 posted on 09/10/2011 12:44:06 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
The owners can likely afford to shut down for long term recovery. 2-3 years of dormant activity at the site would probably kill the community, but it would at least take out the union.

Sometimes you have to resign yourself to rebuilding from ashes.

13 posted on 09/10/2011 12:47:11 PM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Keith in Iowa

“Union members are locked out, unable to access former work areas... can’t sabotage things they can’t get to.”

They simply sabotage things beforehand.

And you and I both know that they did.


14 posted on 09/10/2011 1:01:08 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Keith in Iowa

Wanna buy a bridge?


15 posted on 09/10/2011 1:04:03 PM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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To: Keith in Iowa
Union members are locked out, unable to access former work areas... can’t sabotage things they can’t get to.

Never let facts get in the way of a good rant.

16 posted on 09/10/2011 1:07:37 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: bgill

>>>Wanna buy a bridge?

Already own one. Waana buy it?


17 posted on 09/10/2011 1:14:00 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Pioneer Sugar grown and refined right here in Michigan.


18 posted on 09/10/2011 1:17:00 PM PDT by healy61
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To: Da Coyote

>>>And you and I both know that they did.

No, I don’t know that. What I do know is what I posted. The lockout has been going on long enough, and the equipment has been in use for long enough that if there was any tampering, it would have been evident from day one of the lock-out and not surfacing now... it’s likely that any problems now are from inexperienced people operating plants.

I live in Realville - you should visit once in a while.


19 posted on 09/10/2011 1:17:45 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: basil

mere coincidence, I’m sure/


20 posted on 09/10/2011 1:20:33 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (My mind is like a steel trap: rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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To: Keith in Iowa

So fires in previous years were caused by what: drunk/stoned/lazy union apes not paying attention?


21 posted on 09/10/2011 1:25:37 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Those kind of fires happen - even when experienced people run the place... and may happen more with green-horns on the job. That’s all I’m sayin’.


22 posted on 09/10/2011 1:27:49 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Verizon wins injunction against striking workers after reports of vandalism...

Striking workers have also been barred from entering inside of any Verizon properties unless they are performing their duties as Verizon employees under the direction of Verizon. Rules were also set for recording, video taping or photographing any individual at any Verizon or performing company.

Ironically, section J is one that would normally go without saying, yet is clearly stated:

”Dropping, spreading, throwing, placing or otherwise causing nails, glass, cinder block, spikes, feces, clubs, rocks, screws, or puncture devices of any kind, or other object or debris to be thrown or strewn in, on, or about Verizon’s driveways, parking lots, entrances, exits, vehicles and adjoining roads to any of Verizon’s property or at any work site.”

http://www.tomsrivernjonline.com/2011/08/15/verizon-wins-injunction-against-striking-workers-after-reports-of-vandalism-violence-and-harrassment/

at least nobody set poop on fire...


23 posted on 09/10/2011 1:43:02 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (My mind is like a steel trap: rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Verizon wins injunction against striking workers after reports of vandalism...

Striking workers have also been barred from entering inside of any Verizon properties unless they are performing their duties as Verizon employees under the direction of Verizon. Rules were also set for recording, video taping or photographing any individual at any Verizon or performing company.

Ironically, section J is one that would normally go without saying, yet is clearly stated:

”Dropping, spreading, throwing, placing or otherwise causing nails, glass, cinder block, spikes, feces, clubs, rocks, screws, or puncture devices of any kind, or other object or debris to be thrown or strewn in, on, or about Verizon’s driveways, parking lots, entrances, exits, vehicles and adjoining roads to any of Verizon’s property or at any work site.”

http://www.tomsrivernjonline.com/2011/08/15/verizon-wins-injunction-against-striking-workers-after-reports-of-vandalism-violence-and-harrassment/

at least nobody set poop on fire...


24 posted on 09/10/2011 1:43:02 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (My mind is like a steel trap: rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

‘Ed Schultz’ land.


25 posted on 09/10/2011 1:51:21 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

There is no strike in this situation. The union laborers were locked out of their jobs at the end of their contract and the company has been getting things done without them.


26 posted on 09/10/2011 1:52:42 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

More likely the locked out union thugs started them.


27 posted on 09/10/2011 2:19:23 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: Keith in Iowa
There's no evidence, absent the words of the paid union liar, that the fires are happening "more."

Conjecture on your part is no more valid than anyone else's.

28 posted on 09/10/2011 2:20:26 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Trailerpark Badass

I do have reality on my side. And facts.

Fact: It’s not a strike - it’s a company lock-lout.

Fact: The lock-out began some time ago. Aug 1st to be exact.


29 posted on 09/10/2011 2:30:00 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Atlas is beginning to shrug.


30 posted on 09/10/2011 3:53:58 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: basil

Police confirm racial slurs, symbols at North Dakota sugar plant
Associated Press

Updated: 09/13/2011 07:16:12 AM CDT

GRAND FORKS, N.D. - Police say union supporters have directed racial slurs and racist symbols at replacement workers and security personnel outside an American Crystal Sugar plant in North Dakota.

Traill County Sheriff Mike Crocker says there have been racial statements made to security people outside of the company’s Hillsboro facility. He says he recently saw a monkey-like figure hanging from a noose attached to a large inflatable rat outside the plant. He says it was removed the next day.

http://www.twincities.com/allheadlines/ci_18883787?nclick_check=1


31 posted on 09/13/2011 5:57:26 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (My mind is like a steel trap: rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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