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OMG! Perry used the S-word!!
Washington Examiner ^ | September 11, 2011 | Mark Tapscott

Posted on 09/11/2011 5:50:36 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Can you hear it?

The sound of President Obama’s political advisors licking their chops in anticipation of running against Rick Perry and reminding the rest of us a thousand different ways that the Texas governor knows his Texas history, that is.

As The Washington Examiner’s Haley Peterson reports in today’s print edition, Perry told a Tea Party audience in 2009 that “Texas is a unique place. When we came into the union in 1845, one of the issues was that we would be able to leave it if we decided to do that.”

Perry was simply pointing out what most Texans know from infancy, and are known to boast modestly about from time to time when talking to folks from foreign lands like New York and California.

But you would think the former Al Gore supporter from Austin had read Jonathan Swift’s modest proposal for ending the Irish potato famine and cried “Eureaka!” in admiring response.

Former White House press secretary Robert Gibbs – an Alabaman who undoubtedly knows Perry was just indulging a familiar Texas past time of boasting about the state’s uniqueness – offered this glimpse of what will surely be a standard Democratic attack theme.

“Rick Perry is the governor who two years ago who two years ago openly talked about whether Texas should leave the union,” Gibbs said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

Here’s something else Gibbs also must certainly have known long before he uttered those words on the Jeffrey Immelt’s propaganda network: In the same statement in which Perry reminded everybody of one of the unique conditions of Texas’ entry into the federal union, he also said “we’ve got a great union. There is absolutely no reason to dissolve it.”

So Perry said the exact opposite of what Gibbs would like everybody in America to think he said. But, hey, what’s a little outright lie among friends (Gibbs and his liberal mainstream media buddies asking him questions)?

Here’s another story that is often heard when a Texan comes into friendly contact with one or more Yankees:

In the Spring of 1863, General Robert E. Lee was conducting a military review of his Army of Northern Virginia for the benefit of an English military observer, Col Arthur Fremantle.

When members of Hood’s Texas Brigade “marched” past the reviewing stand, Fremantle, who knew of the unit’s amazing effectiveness as shock troops, was puzzled by what he saw and exclaimed: “Why General Lee, these men hardly have shirts on their backs.”

To which Lee replied: “That’s okay, Colonel. The enemy never sees the backs of my Texans.”

Hearing such a story and being from the state after which the heroes of the tale were named, it’s simply too tempting not to remind visitors from up North that Texas is just about the most unique place in the whole universe.

Too bad some people just can’t tell the difference between pulling Yankee legs and plotting political strategy.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: msm; perry; perry2012; racism; secede
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Well, of course the "idea" that Gov. Rick Perry likes the idea of succession or speaks of seceding with relish has to become "truth" because the MSM wants to make it "reality" in the voters minds that 1.) Rick Perry is a racist. 2.) That Eric Holder should deny Texas their newly passed Photo Voter ID (1965 Voters Right Act "concerns" don't you know). 3) Rick Perry is stupid and doesn't understand history or doesn't care about it what with all that "swagger."

Stringent Texas voter ID law means changes at Texas polls "It’s still unclear what happens after that. Whenever the state Legislature passes a measure that affects voting or changes the mechanisms by which a Texan casts a ballot, a provision of the federal Voting Rights Act allows the U.S. Department of Justice or the federal courts to review the law. That process is pending. The Texas Secretary of State filed its request for pre-clearance with the Department of Justice last month, and a response is expected in September. If the department rules that the bill will not adversely affect voter turnout, opponents of the measure are likely to file litigation to halt the measure." Voter ID laws in TX, GA, SC (history of voting rights discrimination) concern Dems

The Goldwater Talking Point (gearing up for Rick Perry) -- Too extreme to win.

Rick Perry's Confederate past [Salon "exclusive" that gets it wrong] A racist.

1 posted on 09/11/2011 5:50:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Crap.
And here I was, clicking on your post, thinking that the Governor was talking about used food.....

;-)


2 posted on 09/11/2011 6:01:07 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Look for the union label, then buy elsewhere.)
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To: RandallFlagg
Those familiar with candidate:

Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin, who still have not ruled out entering the race, are also well-liked by Republicans (74% and 69% favorable ratings, respectively), but also do not generate the same degree of strong intense feeling as Perry and Cain. Giuliani's current Positive Intensity Score is 15 and Palin's is 13.

Perry Remains Best-Positioned Candidate

Perry's combination of high name recognition and a high Positive Intensity Score help make him the best-positioned candidate for the Republican nomination at this point, underscored by his lead in Republican nomination preferences. Cain's enthusiastic support is offset by his low name recognition, and other well-known candidates like Romney, Michele Bachmann, and Ron Paul, do not generate the same level of intense feeling as Perry.

Source

Perry has room to grow within his name recognition numbers.


3 posted on 09/11/2011 6:02:04 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I like Perry. I really do.
But there’s just something in his eyes when he made his, “Running for President,” speech.
It almost looked like he was simply, “Playing our song,” to gain followers.

But, I’ll be happy to admit that I might be wrong.
It’s too early to tell at this point.


4 posted on 09/11/2011 6:09:06 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Look for the union label, then buy elsewhere.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Perry was simply pointing out what most Texans know from infancy, and are known to boast modestly about from time to time when talking to folks from foreign lands like New York and California.

Then most Texans, including the author of this article, are pretty dumb. There isn't a Constitutional expert in the country who would agree that Texas somehow has rights denied other states. And that includes leaving without the consent of the other states.

5 posted on 09/11/2011 6:13:30 AM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: SoJoCo

Give it a rest.


6 posted on 09/11/2011 6:16:34 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: RandallFlagg
But, I’ll be happy to admit that I might be wrong. It’s too early to tell at this point.

Be sure to ping me when you do.

7 posted on 09/11/2011 6:17:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The nomination is Perry's to lose. Let's just hope no clever reporter asks him a real toughie such as , “what do you read?” That could end his chances for good!
8 posted on 09/11/2011 6:17:53 AM PDT by jla
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To: SoJoCo

Except that it is true. The Republic had conditions on joining the Union


9 posted on 09/11/2011 6:22:16 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Rats carry plague)
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To: RandallFlagg

Don’t know about “look in his eye”, Perry has been a damn good conservative Governor for Texas, has been reelected twice by very conservative Texas voters facing liberals, libertarian thruther and RINO. We will hate to give him up, but if he can do half as good for America it’ll be worth our sacrifice.


10 posted on 09/11/2011 6:22:39 AM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" and ronpaulnutz are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Give it a rest.

Maybe when you do.

But let me point out that this wasn't a criticism of Perry because nowhere in his disjointed secession remarks did he say or even imply that Texas had a special right to walk out of the Union. He is no doubt aware of the Constitution and it's limitations. So if anything, I was criticizing the bone-headed author of the article and not Perry. All he did was make some remarks that he'll spend the campaign trying do defend when asked about them.

11 posted on 09/11/2011 6:26:12 AM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I actually don’t know what is the true legality of this thing, but when I was growing up in TX (admittedly in the dark ages, )we were certainly taught that when TX joined the union, we retained the right to leave the union if we weren’t happy with it.


12 posted on 09/11/2011 6:27:13 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; SoJoCo
Give what a rest? The truth? SJC is correct all Sates entered the union on the same footing and rights. Besides if you want Texas to secede you have to climb over Texas v. White.

In the 90’s I paid some Constitutional lawyers a lot of money to tell me if there was ANY path where Texas could secede. There is no path and all the “rights” the secessionists are claiming were given up at the end of the Civil War.

Perry is just pandering and bordering on treason.

13 posted on 09/11/2011 6:28:04 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: bert
Except that it is true. The Republic had conditions on joining the Union.

Except that it isn't true. Heck, even the state of Texas itself says it isn't true. Link

Texas is constrained by the Constitution in the same way and the same areas as every other state is. One of those constraints is that a state can't just walk out whenever they want to.

14 posted on 09/11/2011 6:29:43 AM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: dusttoyou
Perry has been a damn good conservative Governor for Texas, has been reelected twice by very conservative Texas voters

It's amazing to this non-Texan how Texans, on the same conservative site, can have such a radically different view of their own governor.

15 posted on 09/11/2011 6:29:56 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: SoJoCo

“All he did was make some remarks that he’ll spend the campaign trying do defend when asked about them.”

Yes, but that’s true if a candidate is seen as a serious right-leaning candidate by the government-media complex, and if s/he says anything meaningful. As long as they say lots of pretty nothings, it’s hard to take their words out of context and twist them into slanders.

(And, for the 400th time - I’m not a Perry supporter - just observing the situation.)


16 posted on 09/11/2011 6:31:01 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: bert
Opps. Wrong link. Link
17 posted on 09/11/2011 6:31:42 AM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: SoJoCo

We will just have to disagree about that, SoJo.


18 posted on 09/11/2011 6:32:40 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Here's a speech from a Texas Tea Party event in which Gov. Perry alludes to secession. He was quoting Sam Houston for one thing.

Governor Perry - Texas Secession

I can't imagine any conservative listening to this speech and not believing this is a sincere, authentic and bold Conservative leader.

19 posted on 09/11/2011 6:40:48 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: RandallFlagg
>"It almost looked like he was simply, “Playing our song,” to gain followers."

What gave it away? The fact that he wears more makeup than the former Gov? Or the FACT that he gave away TEXAS (Trans Texas Corridor) to the globalist cabal?

20 posted on 09/11/2011 6:41:49 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Nice post, but an historical nit: Freemantle did not reach Lee’s headquarters until June 22, 1863, two days after that year’s equinox and therefore, early summer.


21 posted on 09/11/2011 6:44:23 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: SoJoCo

Welcome to FR heavy Perry Derangement newby. I am sure the ronpaulnutz who hide behind Palin will appreciate the help.

Its quite clear you are stupid about anything Texas or anything Perry. Not to mention stupid about Chile or the Chilean SS.

Your fervent anti-Perry posts have a smelly Muttbot flavor, but then again it is so hard to differentiate between Massa2shits RINO and a liberal, you could be a troll from DNC.


22 posted on 09/11/2011 6:48:02 AM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" and ronpaulnutz are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: dusttoyou
Don’t know about “look in his eye”, Perry has been a damn good conservative Governor for Texas, has been reelected twice by very conservative Texas voters facing liberals, libertarian thruther and RINO. We will hate to give him up, but if he can do half as good for America it’ll be worth our sacrifice.

Oh, don't get me wrong. Perry seems like an all right fella. Someone to hope for doing the right thing. But I want to see more proof.

It might be just me, though. It's still too early.

(I lived in Texas and loved it. The people there are so freaking awesome and friendly.(I can't return, though. TOO many ex-GF's))
23 posted on 09/11/2011 6:50:12 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Look for the union label, then buy elsewhere.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
where Texas could secede. There is no path

That is incorrect and since you posted the Texas-v-White case (which wasn't about secession) then you should know that.

24 posted on 09/11/2011 6:50:32 AM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perry needs to do a campaign commercial about this. He needs to have a plain spoken Texan saying “They lie to you. They lie to you all the time. They take what a man says completely out of context and make it seem like he said something else. They think we’re too dumb to know the difference. Well, at one time we may have been too busy to pay attention, but with the way our economy is now, believe me we’re paying attention now.” and then show the whole comments, on several things, pausing at what they say he said, and then completing the sentence. Finish it up with “We’re sick of being lied to.”


25 posted on 09/11/2011 6:56:40 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Presuming your boy Perry was smart enough to make sure the photo-id bill was IDENTICAL to Governor Mitch Daniels photo-id bill, it will pass CONSTITUTIONAL MUSTER, and that's all it's got to do.

In the meantime the arch criminal and traitor Eric "Fast and Furious" Holder has less than two years in office ~ and then it's prison time!

26 posted on 09/11/2011 6:59:12 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

SEE: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/29/washington/28cnd-scotus.html


27 posted on 09/11/2011 6:59:40 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Prokopton

The “radical” views are emminating from paul camp. His wack-os holler loudly, just like at debates and online, puffing up pretending to be big and mainstream. There are maybe 6 or so heavy PDS posters, most Texans who think well of Perry are like Tea Party people, not apt to shout about it.

You will notice lots of Perry Derangengers claim Palin for safe cover, for if they were honest about being paulnutz everyone would dismiss them without a second thought.

Consider why Perry has been reelected twice. Do you think Texas is not a very conservative state?


28 posted on 09/11/2011 7:01:44 AM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" and ronpaulnutz are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: SoJoCo
Then most Texans, including the author of this article, are pretty dumb.

Spoken like an expert in "dumb". Go back to the DNC websites where your unique "talents" will be appreciated.

29 posted on 09/11/2011 7:01:45 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: basil
Same here basil. I also took 7th grade Texas history in the dark ages and we were told the same thing. Because Texas was a Republic when we joined the US that we were different and could opt out if we chose.
30 posted on 09/11/2011 7:05:13 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: muawiyah

Thank you. Great article. So it will probably be a big STALL by Eric Holder and then some “aggrieved” parties in the state(s) will take it to the activist appellate court and then back and up again. Holder needs to get on with it....but I’m sure he is in no hurry (it will play better closer to the election).


31 posted on 09/11/2011 7:05:16 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
When we came into the union in 1845, one of the issues was that we would be able to leave it if we decided to do that.”

It may very well have been an issue when negotiations were ongoing about admitting Texas to the Union. There were probably a lot of other issues that came up too, doesn't mean Texas got everything it wanted.

Found this site that might be of interest regarding Texas and some common misconceptions.

Myth busting and the Texas flag

32 posted on 09/11/2011 7:05:21 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: dusttoyou
Its quite clear you are stupid about anything Texas or anything Perry. Not to mention stupid about Chile or the Chilean SS.

Because you say so? I guess I'm going to have to learn to live with your disapproval then.

33 posted on 09/11/2011 7:06:01 AM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: RandallFlagg

Hey buddy!

Me too....


34 posted on 09/11/2011 7:06:49 AM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: SuzyQue
We will just have to disagree about that, SoJo.

Well as John Adams said, "Facts are stubborn things."

35 posted on 09/11/2011 7:07:38 AM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: Servant of the Cross

Thank you for the link!


36 posted on 09/11/2011 7:08:00 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: basil
One poster below pointed in the right direction ~ TEXAS, as well as every other state that'd decided to join the Confederacy found itself involved in RECONSTRUCTION which entailed "readmission" ~ and there were, of course, "conditions" ~ so whatever earlier deal they'd had with the Union, they were readmitted with a different deal.

Losing a war is always bad.

37 posted on 09/11/2011 7:08:24 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: cowboyway

I didn’t say it was, I said you have to climb over it.

There is no path for ANY State to secede and Texas (if they ever had any rights to) lost them at the end of the CW.

Yes the Constitution does have a provision but the is NO path for it, it would take years maybe decades to establish one.


38 posted on 09/11/2011 7:08:31 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: RandallFlagg

All my Ex’s live in Texas.

Keeping an open mind is a good thing. You won’t find many conservative (not speaking of libertarian paulnutz) Texans thinking badly of Perry, he has done right for us.


39 posted on 09/11/2011 7:08:41 AM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" and ronpaulnutz are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Perry is just pandering and bordering on treason.

You seem to want to perpetuate the idea that the racists are pushing.

Interesting.

40 posted on 09/11/2011 7:10:37 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: RandallFlagg
“too many ex girlfriends”>>>>

I think I saw a wanted poster with your picture on it in Neiman Marcus just the other day. You better stay out of Texas. :D

41 posted on 09/11/2011 7:11:56 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: muawiyah

Rick Perry was the first Republican Lt. Gov. to be elected since Reconstruction.


42 posted on 09/11/2011 7:11:59 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Upstate NYers have been talking about secession for years, though not from the union, just from Downstate :-)


43 posted on 09/11/2011 7:13:17 AM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

You mean like the Jimmy Davis bridge? That mean ol TTC must have been stolen, like our rain.

You need to crawfish on that TTC horsehockey, it was only an idea that never happened. Ever hear of I-69?


44 posted on 09/11/2011 7:13:33 AM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" and ronpaulnutz are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Why CMA supported Perry's HPV vaccination order

Dose of Reason: Perry and Gardasil

Ron Paul’s Reagan Revisionism -- letter knocking Reaganmics and resigning from GOP.

The Rick Perry-ACORN connection explained: A primer for non-Texans

Sept 1, 2011: Rick Perry on Mark Levin’s show - Calls Perry a “solid conservative.”

Most Conservative State Representative in Texas Endorses Rick Perry for President - Explains Trans-Texas Corridor

David Stein: Debunking the Rick Perry “Pro-Shraria” School Curriculum Myth

Amil Imani Governor Perry's Islam Connection ………”No matter how I tried, I couldn't reach the conclusion that this inclusion promotes Islam or is pro-Sharia. It seems that the mere fact that Islam is included in the curriculum represents supporting it. And with regard to the concern that the education curriculum Perry promoted is pro-Arab and against Israel, the evidence is exactly the opposite. The lesson on Israel reads: …”

45 posted on 09/11/2011 7:16:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: mad_as_he$$
There is never a "pathway" for lawbreakers to make up for their lawbreaking ~ there are only penalties and disabilities.

Should be the same for the illegal aliens as for Texas.

Gots ta' go ta' the end of the line first!

46 posted on 09/11/2011 7:17:48 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Gov. Perry Issues Proclamation Recognizing Texas First Responders Day

Sunday, September 11, 2011 • Austin, Texas •

Proclamation

On a Tuesday morning 10 years ago, we watched in horror as terrorists hìjacked four of our commercial airliners, attacked the United States and killed nearly 3,000 civilians on our soil. Two thousand miles away from that attack, 73 emergency response professionals in Central Texas - members of the Texas Task Force i, the state's elite search team - were among the first to respond to the call for help with search-and-rescue operations.

In the aftermath, we witnessed heroic rescue efforts, a surge of patriotism and a display of great dignity. People at home and abroad rallied together in support, proudly flying American flags in unity and reverence. We rose above the ashes with courage and compassion. Our country demonstrated an optimism that no attack could weaken.

The Texas Legislature has designated September 11 of every year to be Texas First Responders Day to honor emergency aid professionals. As we remember the parents, children, brothers and sisters whose lives were tragically cut short by these attacks, let us also acknowledge the men and women who bravely stepped up to serve following those attacks.

THEREFORE, I urge all Texans to honor the profound sacrifices and dedication of our peace officers, firefighters and emergency medical responders. Every day here in Texas, they answer the call for help and offer invaluable services that bring relief and comfort during the worst of circumstances. First Lady Anita Peny joins me in extending our deep gratitude to them on this day and every day.

THEREFORE, I, Rick Perry, Govemor of Texas, do hereby proclaim September 11 ,2011, to be

Texas First Responders Day

in Texas, and urge the appropriate recognition whereof.

In official recognition whereof, I hereby affix my signature this the 6th day of September, 2011,.

RICK PERRY
Governor of Texas

OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR

47 posted on 09/11/2011 7:19:28 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: SoJoCo

There’s always one or more threads going on FR where posters cleverly and originally write, “Kick California out of the Union and build a wall around it!”

So here’s my question: could the U.S. really do that? I mean, I understand the Civil War settled the question of whether a state can leave of its own accord.

But what if all the states voted to give one the boot? Constitutional or not?


48 posted on 09/11/2011 7:19:59 AM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So many of the Perry people seem focused on Ron Paul I gather that Ron is Ricardo’s “stalking horse” ~ !


49 posted on 09/11/2011 7:20:11 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Well, I’m old—but not that old—LOL! I certainly went to school after the War Between the States—(quite a long while after!) and we were still being taught this.


50 posted on 09/11/2011 7:21:35 AM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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