Skip to comments.OMG! Perry used the S-word!!
Posted on 09/11/2011 5:50:36 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Translation: The idea that a state could secede of its own will - equivalent to all other states voting to expel another state from the Union - is inconceivable, in particular in America, where the issue isn’t as contentious as it is elsewhere.
I would, if I cared, but I don't, so I won't.
He could always say he didn’t like what obama is doing to the country and meant that he would support seccession to protect Texans from having their state’s rights stolen.
The quote is from an 1833 letter to Alexander Rives. At the time the Nullification Crisis with South Carolina was going on, with talk in the state that they may leave the Union altogether.
A bunch of dumb colonist once thought that rights came from God and not from other men. They were so dumb they thought this was self evident. Silly guys.
"The withdrawal of a State from a league has no revolutionary or insurrectionary characteristic. The government of the State remains unchanged as to all internal affairs. It is only its external or confederate relations that are altered. To term this action of a Sovereign a 'rebellion' is a gross abuse of language."
Get your money back you were had.
I am sure King George III would agree with you.
The only thing wrong with the Tx. v White decision is that the Constitution is silent on the issue of secession and doesn’t back up the decision. Other than that it is a good decision.
LOL! That was my first thought, too. Then I thought, "sin?" Glad to see we were both wrong, but we really should get our minds out of the bathroom...
I was going on the assumption that Perry was talking about peaceful succession and not armed revolution.
“I doubt any such polls existed except maybe as a joke.”
For what it’s worth...
You ought to read one of his books, either “On My Honor,” his book about the Boy Scouts, or “Fed Up!” the book about the overreaching of the federal government and what we can and should do about it.
Where in the Constitution is the requirement that other states have to approve the secession of another state? It isn't there. Republican congressmen tried several times to make such an approval a requirement in 1860 and 1861, but it was voted down.
Consider what several states said when ratifying the Constitution. Here, for example, is what New York's ratification document said [Link, my bold below]:
We, the delegates of the people of the state of New York, duly elected and met in Convention, having maturely considered the Constitution for the United States of America, agreed to on the 17th day of September, in the year 1787, by the Convention then assembled at Philadelphia, in the commonwealth of Pennsylvania, (a copy whereof precedes these presents,) and having also seriously and deliberately considered the present situation of the United States, Do declare and make known,
... That the powers of government may be reassumed by the people whensoever it shall become necessary to their happiness ...
That the people have an equal, natural, and unalienable right freely and peaceably to exercise their religion, according to the dictates of conscience; and that no religious sect or society ought to be favored or established by law in preference to others.
That the people have a right to keep and bear arms; that a well-regulated militia, including the body of the people capable of bearing arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defence of a free state. ...
... Under these impressions, and declaring that the rights aforesaid cannot be abridged or violated, and that the explanations aforesaid are consistent with the said Constitution, and in confidence that the amendments which shall have been proposed to the said Constitution will receive an early and mature consideration, We, the said delegates, in the name and in the behalf of the people of the state of New York, do, by these presents, assent to and ratify the said Constitution.
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(this makes the Perrydactyls wild--no mention of Ron Paul driving Perry's numbers down)
I have no idea what your background is so please don’t take this as any sort of slam at you, but my statement still stands. Please point me to a single Constitutional expert in this country who is on record as saying that Texas has rights under the Constitution denied to the other states. Or any main-stream Constitutional scholar who says that any state can leave the Union at will.
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this makes the Perrydactyls wild
'Heck', what DOESN'T make them go wild?
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I wonder if they realize they're doing more harm to Perry than good?
With their childish, sophomoric insults and viscous name calling and repetitive ad hominem attacks of fellow FReepers, they're turning OFF open minded CONSERVATIVES(1) who *May* - and/or prolly *Would* - vote for Perry if he does happen to win enough primary elections and get the nomination.(Yes Virginia, there are elections. /s)
I swear to god they are WORSE than the Rudybots were. At least those ex FReepers would admit Rooty was not perfect. But not the Texas Perrydactyls, nope. At any time I expect a Thread Posted: Today, 1:00p.m. EDT. 'Gov. Perry To Walk On Water!' And they'd BELIEVE it!
Ergo, if anyone needs to 'give it a rest' as is their usual retort, me thinks they need to follow their own advice.
(1) Many Conservatives lurk FR without signing up. They should know that.
“Sorry” if the gentle Condor51 was offended.
'Gentle' I am not. Nor am I easily offended.
However, I try not to argue with ladies. It's just not the gentlemanly thing to do. I also open doors for them and give them my seat if they're standing.