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Calif. bill would protect unlicensed drivers from arrest
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 9/11/11 | Vivian Ho, Chronicle Staff Writer

Posted on 09/11/2011 10:06:28 PM PDT by SmithL

A bill loaded with immigration politics and potential implications for highway safety has landed on Gov. Jerry Brown's desk.

The legislation by Assemblyman Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, would change police procedures at drunken-driving checkpoints, prohibiting officers from arresting drivers and immediately impounding their cars if their only offense is not having a license.

Supporters say the bill, AB353, would impose a consistent policy statewide - some agencies confiscate unlicensed drivers' cars now, and some do not - while keeping DUI checkpoints from being turned into traps for otherwise law-abiding illegal immigrants who cannot obtain licenses.

"In most parts of California, you basically have to have a car," said Mark Silverman, director of immigration policy at the Immigrant Legal Resource Center. "You have to be able to drive to survive, to get anywhere. Because of that, the truth is, immigrant drivers without licenses will be driving anyway because of the necessity. The towing of cars will not stop people from driving."

But for families who have lost loved ones because of unlicensed drivers, the bill would endanger everyone who uses the roads.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab353; aliens; calegislation; cedillo; driverslicense; duienablerbill; gilcedillo; goldenstate; illegalaliens; laraza4drunkillegals; moonbeam; unlicenseddrivers; yourtaxdollarsatwork

Assemblyman Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, seeks to change procedures at drunken-driving checkpoints
1 posted on 09/11/2011 10:06:34 PM PDT by SmithL
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Woo Hoo!

Drivers Licenses are optional in California!


2 posted on 09/11/2011 10:07:20 PM PDT by SmithL (Soon to be a former California resident.)
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To: SmithL

I used to love kalifornia. San Fran before the faggots, addicts and scum was beautiful. Now the state is infested with garbage. How sad.


3 posted on 09/11/2011 10:09:23 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: SmithL
otherwise law-abiding illegal immigrants who cannot obtain licenses

This is incredible. "Otherwise law-abiding illegals"? Only in California, land of the dumb and the doomed.

4 posted on 09/11/2011 10:11:28 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: SmithL

The legislation by Assemblyman Gil Cedillo,

He is Mexican Cartel plant , here to keep the drug gates open.


5 posted on 09/11/2011 10:14:12 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Democrats are violent. Prisons are overflowing with democrats convicted of violent crimes.)
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To: SmithL
....trying to suppress the overwhelming desire for HIS children to be killed by a drunken illegal alien driving with a license...

Trying very hard....

6 posted on 09/11/2011 10:15:01 PM PDT by Lizavetta (You get what you tolerate)
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To: SmithL

Cedillo looks like some kind of freak from the U.N.


7 posted on 09/11/2011 10:16:00 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Only two things come out of the DemocRAT Party. Fears and Smears.)
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To: SmithL
otherwise law-abiding illegal immigrants

I bet that in any other state, the editor would burst out laughing at that choice of words, but since it's the San Francisco Comical in California, it probably just sailed right on by...

8 posted on 09/11/2011 10:17:17 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (It's the Tea Party's fault!)
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To: Lizavetta
ooops....meant to say without a license.

Hell, with or without. They're here illegally and driving drunk. Licenses aren't really the issue.

9 posted on 09/11/2011 10:18:14 PM PDT by Lizavetta (You get what you tolerate)
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To: SmithL
Because of that, the truth is, immigrant drivers without licenses will be driving anyway because of the necessity. The towing of cars will not stop people from driving."

Immigrants can and do get driver's licenses. They take their green card to DMV, they take a test, they get insurance, and buy a car, and then they drive.

I think what you mean is those who are just taking a free ride at our expense while maintaining their citizenship to another country aren't able to get a free ride at these DUI checkpoints, so therefore this bill aims to fix that.

I hope that Moonbeam tosses this as fast as possible.

10 posted on 09/11/2011 10:19:23 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: SmithL

Calif TeaPartyers, if this passes join me in boycotting renewal of our drivers licenses.


11 posted on 09/11/2011 10:19:23 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Democrats are violent. Prisons are overflowing with democrats convicted of violent crimes.)
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To: SmithL

Are there any Hispanic politicians in California who are loyal Americans, supporters of the laws they swore to uphold, and don’t think that they are Mexicans on a mission from God to reconquer the state for Mexico?

These people are a disgrace to the decent Hispanics who are good citizens and obey and uphold the laws.

It is time for them to rise up in revolt and oust these leftist, irredentist, ignorant pricks, and I don’t really care how they clean house, just that they do it and reclaim the State from these POS.


12 posted on 09/11/2011 10:19:47 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: hsalaw

Kinda like law-abiding Congressmen.......IMO.


13 posted on 09/11/2011 10:23:03 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum)
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To: SmithL

If only there was a place these illegal aliens could go where they would not be persecuted.


14 posted on 09/11/2011 10:23:24 PM PDT by andyk (Income != Wealth)
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To: SmithL
Drivers Licenses are optional in California

And so is auto insurance then, I guess.
California, lol.


15 posted on 09/11/2011 10:33:30 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: SmithL

“one-bill” Gill is at it again I see


16 posted on 09/11/2011 10:35:32 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: SmithL

Assemblyman Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles is fighting to increase DUI.

His bill will allow those convicted of DUIs and that have their licenses pulled, to drive.

Can we sue the DNC?

It’s not the government. Its a corporation.


17 posted on 09/11/2011 10:43:02 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Democrats are violent. Prisons are overflowing with democrats convicted of violent crimes.)
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To: SmithL

I don’t want to pay taxes.

Can I just decide not too?

I don’t want to use curly Q lightbulbs.

Can I buy other kinds?

I don’t want Obama as President.

Can I have a different leader?

I’m in the country illegally.

Can I ignore that law?


18 posted on 09/11/2011 11:00:53 PM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: kingu

Legal immigrants get licenses all the time. Without getting US citizenship.

ILLEGAL ALIENS are the ones who cannot get a DL in California.

This scumbag assemlyman is shilling for illegals.


19 posted on 09/11/2011 11:07:55 PM PDT by Dagnabitt
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To: kingu

Legal immigrants may buy insurance, but ILLEGAL immigrants do not. Why should they? Once they’ve caused an accident while driving drunk, they just run away from the scene.


20 posted on 09/11/2011 11:21:55 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: SmithL

Does this mean my 15 year old can drive himself to school?


21 posted on 09/11/2011 11:40:45 PM PDT by Defiant (Calling all citizens from all over the world, this is Captain America calling.)
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To: Dagnabitt
ILLEGAL ALIENS are the ones who cannot get a DL in California. This scumbag assemlyman is shilling for illegals.

Which was pretty much my point, but I was noting the connotation in the article that immigrants are being put upon by these draconian laws and it's just so hard for them.. It is hard starting in a new country. But it's also insulting that illegal aliens keep being given all these benefits, while those who went through the process to immigrate here are kept to the side.

Take for example the latest iteration of the DREAM act.. If your parents cheat the system, cut the line, and you go to school here, you can get state resident rates and state financial aide, whereas if you legally immigrated here, you likely wouldn't qualify, even though you worked hard to get here, and did it legally, the illegal still pushes ahead of you. Once a line cutter, always a line cutter.

22 posted on 09/11/2011 11:50:28 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: SmithL

I agree with this that there should be a state wide law that impounds all vehicles of people without driver’s licenses.


23 posted on 09/12/2011 12:07:40 AM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: SmithL

If only a California idea of no drivers licenses would spread nationwide.

No more having to have papers in order to drive.

Papers to vote, yes.
Papers to drive, no.


24 posted on 09/12/2011 12:11:31 AM PDT by Aroostook25
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To: SmithL

Only WHITE PEOPLE will be required to have Drivers licenses in California before it’s through.

How soon until Chistians must display a cross so they can be easily identified by the Gestapo... err... Democrat Party?


25 posted on 09/12/2011 12:13:37 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Democrats have been OUTFORCING America's jobs for 40 years)
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To: SmithL
The legislation by Assemblyman Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, would change police procedures at drunken-driving checkpoints

I remember as a kid during the Cold War and they told me the Soviet Union had checkpoints where you had to show your papers. I had no idea then that such unconstitutional abominations would actually occur here only a few decades later. Guess those guys landed on the beaches of Normandy for nothing.
26 posted on 09/12/2011 12:57:34 AM PDT by microgood
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To: microgood

They guys didn’t land on the beaches of Normandy to fight Communism and in the US, one has always had to show papers for various reasons.

From renting videos to going through customs.


27 posted on 09/12/2011 2:09:10 AM PDT by NoLibZone (Democrats are violent. Prisons are overflowing with democrats convicted of violent crimes.)
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To: SmithL
Woo Hoo!

Drivers Licenses are optional in California!

Not if you're a gringo.

28 posted on 09/12/2011 2:22:21 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

if i lived in california right now, i dont know what i would do.

the only thing i can think of is leave.


29 posted on 09/12/2011 2:43:57 AM PDT by jdirt
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To: NoLibZone

Assemblyman Gil Cedillo should be serving in the Mexican government not ours. Of course with the Democrats in California and the non-existent Republican opposition, he essentially is.


30 posted on 09/12/2011 2:49:43 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain 5 yrs Left/1 year right "BAD!" - Republicans 3 yrs Right 1 year Left to elect RINOs. "Good?")
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To: markman46

Maybe a drunken illegal without a license will DUI, strike and kill Gill. That would solve California’s problem for awhile.


31 posted on 09/12/2011 2:50:07 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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32 posted on 09/12/2011 3:35:38 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: SmithL

California is a CESSPOOL of STUPID people.


33 posted on 09/12/2011 4:23:22 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SmithL

Illegals now voting on laws that make them more comfortable is all this is.

they have taken the state


34 posted on 09/12/2011 4:57:15 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: SmithL

Why stop there? Just outlaw all laws in Kalifornia and be done with it. I’m very sorry for the decent and civilized people who live there; they’re outnumbered by the freaks.


35 posted on 09/12/2011 5:01:30 AM PDT by whatshotandwhatsnot (Islam wants you dead.)
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To: SmithL
Just when you think Californians can't get any stupider, they always manage to surprise you.

And if you really want to see Californians in a tizzy, point out how unsophisticated they are. "Unsophisticated" is the worst thing you can be in California--probably because on some level they realize that that's exactly what they are. It's denial.

Apologies to all you intelligent, sophisticated FR Californians. I was once one myself.

36 posted on 09/12/2011 5:01:59 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("That is the great eternal question: Are 'Liberals' evil or stupid?" ~Ann Coulter)
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To: SmithL

Guess people and jobs ain’t fleeing the state fast enough, eh?


37 posted on 09/12/2011 5:03:36 AM PDT by mewzilla (Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
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To: whatshotandwhatsnot
"Why stop there? Just outlaw all laws in Kalifornia and be done with it."

This is what they have done de facto. It's part of a Leftist strategy to establish a de facto totalitarian government there.

They overwhelm the judicial system with so many laws that the laws cannot be enforced. Then law enforcers can decide which to enforce and which to ignore.

If they like you, they let you break whatever laws you wish--with impunity.

If they don't like you, they can enforce draconian laws--with impunity.

The Left loves it! It's a great license to bully! And if the Left aspirest to anything, it's bullying those whom they don't like.

38 posted on 09/12/2011 5:09:29 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("That is the great eternal question: Are 'Liberals' evil or stupid?" ~Ann Coulter)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

otherwise law-abiding illegal immigrants

Does this also mean that they do not need to license their cars also.


39 posted on 09/12/2011 5:29:21 AM PDT by chainsaw (I'd hate to be a democrat running against Sarah Palin.)
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To: SmithL
Liberal quislings enabling foreign occupation. California is lost and calling it an invasion makes you the extremist threat. Texas is next.
40 posted on 09/12/2011 5:37:43 AM PDT by tarotsailor
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To: SmithL

But only if you’re an illegal alien, otherwise you get arrested and fined to pay for the destruction and carnage caused by illegals driving illegaly.


41 posted on 09/12/2011 5:55:03 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: SmithL

HA! I knew from the headline this would be from Cedillo. It had “illegal alien protect racket” written all over.


42 posted on 09/12/2011 6:01:57 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: All; SmithL
Email Moonbeam

Governor Jerry Brown
c/o State Capitol, Suite 1173
Sacramento, CA 95814

Phone: (916) 445-2841
Fax: (916) 558-3160

43 posted on 09/12/2011 6:08:57 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: newzjunkey

So, I guess Kalifornia will be laying off thousands of DMV workers due to lack of business?


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45 posted on 09/12/2011 6:23:15 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: SmithL

One Bill Gil’s shining hour..

..for families who have lost loved ones because of unlicensed drivers, the bill would endanger everyone who uses the roads.

Deport the a’holes.. They love their illegal status so much..


46 posted on 09/12/2011 8:49:41 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: SmithL
The towing of cars will not stop people from driving.
Well, in that case, let's follow up the towing with an immediate incarceration followed by an expedited deportation. Doing that may help.
47 posted on 09/12/2011 2:28:19 PM PDT by Bob
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To: NoLibZone
They guys didn’t land on the beaches of Normandy to fight Communism and in the US, one has always had to show papers for various reasons.

From renting videos to going through customs.


Checkpoints, on the other hand, are a violation of the 4th Amendment. And the Supreme Court even admitted it when they granted an exception (although they really have no power to do so) for sobriety checkpoints.

Those people who landed at Normandy were protecting our freedoms, and would probably be disturbed to know we have adopted some Nazi methods (checkpoints) for controlling our citizens.
48 posted on 09/12/2011 2:40:26 PM PDT by microgood
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