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(LIVE THREAD!) Republican Presidential Debate #5 - Sep. 12, 2011 8pm/5pm: Tampa, FL (CNN)
2012 Election Central ^ | Sept. 12, 2011 | CNN/Tea Party Express

Posted on 09/12/2011 7:14:30 AM PDT by newzjunkey

Broadcast on: CNN

Broadcast time: 8pm EDT/5pm PDT

The Candidates:

Michele Bachmann

Bachmann is serving her 3rd full term in the U.S. House. Founder of the House Tea Party Caucus, she earned a Master of Laws degree, worked as a tax attorney, and was a foster mother for 23 teenagers. She is a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Herman Cain

Cain is the former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza and former chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He lost the Georgia Republican primary for a U.S. Senate seat in 2004. He was recently the host of Atlanta-based radio show.

Newt Gingrich

Gingrich served as Speaker of the United States House of Representatives from 1995 to 1999. He represented Georgia's 6th congressional district as a Republican member from 1979 to 1999. He has a PhD in modern European history.

Jon Huntsman

Huntsman was Utah Governor, former ambassador to China under Barack Obama.

Ron Paul

Paul is serving his 11th full term in the U.S. House. He’s an ob-gyn and was Libertarian nominee for president in 1988. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination for president in 2008

Rick Perry

Perry is the three term governor of Texas, from 2000 to current. He is a retired Air Force captain for former farmer. He has a degree in animal science.

Mitt Romney

Romney was governor of Massachusetts (2003 to 2007) and former CEO of Bain Capital, a private equity investment firm. He unsuccessfully sought the Republican 2008 nomination for president. He has an MBA (Harvard) and JD (Harvard Law).

Rick Santorum

Santorum served two terms in the U.S. House and two terms in the U.S. Senate. He became the Senate's third-ranking Republican in 2001. He was defeated for reelection in 2006.


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To: Robwin

I’m not sure by listening to him that Newt is running to win...he’s running to set the parameters of the debate and be a media foil. He’s doing a damn good job too.


301 posted on 09/12/2011 5:33:14 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: Hugin

“No, make him Press Secretary.”

Now, that would be fun.


302 posted on 09/12/2011 5:33:23 PM PDT by maggief
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To: CASchack

Wow... some good sparring! Rick Perry is doing very well. His expressions are priceless. hahaha


303 posted on 09/12/2011 5:33:23 PM PDT by nagdt ("None of my EX's live in Texas")
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To: Lady Lucky

Romney is pissing me off...


304 posted on 09/12/2011 5:33:40 PM PDT by teg_76
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To: Hugin

“No, make him Press Secretary.”

God, I’d DVR every single conference. ;-)


305 posted on 09/12/2011 5:33:40 PM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: newzjunkey

I kind of like them all tonight.

Except Huntsman.


306 posted on 09/12/2011 5:33:44 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Hugin

Newt as press secretary... we all would need to stock up on popcorn!! That would be a show worth watching.


307 posted on 09/12/2011 5:33:47 PM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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To: DRey

I think the problem with Santorum and Bachman is that they sound childish constantly talking about what they did and tried to do. It sounds like they are trying to justify why they are there. I like Santorum, I just don’t think he has a chance. They don’t seem Presidential. I’m voting for who I think can beat Obama.


308 posted on 09/12/2011 5:33:47 PM PDT by No Socialist
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To: Lady Lucky

Paul says “we shouldn’t have never started it.”


309 posted on 09/12/2011 5:33:51 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: 9YearLurker

If Sarah doesn’t want others to take the words right out of her mouth, then she better move her cute little tushie and get up there in the debates with them!


310 posted on 09/12/2011 5:33:53 PM PDT by Palladin (Sarah: Are you gonna fish or cut bait?)
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To: 9YearLurker

I hope obama knows that him threatening to withhold SS and military checks is going to be used against him in the general election.


311 posted on 09/12/2011 5:33:58 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: Allegra

Hi there !

this is awesome....Romney sounds so blah....lots of cliches.

who do you like?


312 posted on 09/12/2011 5:34:19 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (GOD BLESS AMERICA !)
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To: Lady Lucky
Someone should ask Wolf how he thinks he would do if he went on Jeopardy....
313 posted on 09/12/2011 5:34:24 PM PDT by jessduntno (Obama shanks. America tanks.)
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To: Lady Lucky

Michelle Bachmann speaks! Finally!


314 posted on 09/12/2011 5:34:32 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Waiting for Palin)
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To: Raebie

Ron Paul re Soc. Sec.:
I voted against it.
LOL!


315 posted on 09/12/2011 5:34:39 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Santorum doesn’t look so dyspeptic tonight, that’s an improvement. Better lines too.


316 posted on 09/12/2011 5:34:39 PM PDT by Lady Lucky (Heavy the head that wears the tiara.)
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To: Soul Seeker

Oh look! Bachmann’s on the stage!!


317 posted on 09/12/2011 5:34:41 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: Lady Lucky

RuPaul on eliminating our spending on the War on Terror. Throws in eliminating Dept of Education as well.


318 posted on 09/12/2011 5:34:43 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: nagdt

Perry much better performance tonight.


319 posted on 09/12/2011 5:35:08 PM PDT by dforest
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To: DRey
Paul says “we shouldn’t have never started it.”

He says that about everything!!!

320 posted on 09/12/2011 5:35:24 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: GRRRRR

Yea, baby. In fact Perry has the executive experiencefare above the rest. And Cain has the jobs experience!


321 posted on 09/12/2011 5:35:26 PM PDT by hope
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To: Soul Seeker

Bachman is suave, as usual. She has some style with those chops!


322 posted on 09/12/2011 5:35:26 PM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick. Perry/Rubio '12)
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To: Soul Seeker

Bachman is suave, as usual. She has some style with those chops!


323 posted on 09/12/2011 5:35:34 PM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick. Perry/Rubio '12)
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To: KansasGirl

Is Michelle going potty again?


324 posted on 09/12/2011 5:35:34 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Gingrich is a true American hero in the mold of Adams, Washington,and Jefferson.

He also is a proven warrior who toppled the communists in the US Congress, resigned when the counterattacks made him ineffective, and is back with a vengeance.

No doubt about it.

The marxists fear him above anybody else on stage.

325 posted on 09/12/2011 5:35:37 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Everytime Romney talks, I want to do something else.


326 posted on 09/12/2011 5:35:43 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: Palladin
If Sarah doesn’t want others to take the words right out of her mouth,

For sure they have studied Sarah's stuff.

327 posted on 09/12/2011 5:35:51 PM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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To: All
Wolf ignored Perry's statements that he'll preserve and reform Social Security and asking are you with Romney or Perry. Santorum claims he's had all the answers.

Doctor asking about balancing the budget while not destroying entitlements. Newt first. Say there's $500 of billion in waste. Santorum asked about Medicare Part D because he wouldn't have voted for it if he could again. Says it needs to be paid for but it's good anyway because it's 40% underbudget… which is it, Santorum? Good or not?

Perry ask if he'd eliminate Medicare D. Says no but that's a 17 billion hole to fill. Mentions cutting waste in Texas and finding savings that way. Wolf attacks Perry again asking if he'd eliminate it. Perry says I said no when I started.

Romney blah, blah. Cuts. Grow economy.

Ron Paul said we shouldn't have done it but would cut other places first. Attacking war spending again. Would cut Dept of Ed., Dept of Energy.

Bachmann says we need to be a ownership society.

328 posted on 09/12/2011 5:35:53 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: jessduntno

329 posted on 09/12/2011 5:35:55 PM PDT by maggief
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To: RedMDer

I think Ron Paul voted against the first Federal Income Tax bill . . .


330 posted on 09/12/2011 5:36:26 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: SamAdams76

Oooo nice angle to the question Michelle. Personal responsibility, gee who’da thunk?


331 posted on 09/12/2011 5:36:42 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: Hugin

>> “I predict Newt will make the most interesting, and intelligent statement in the joint press confernce they call a debate.” <<

.
Good chance!

He was the hot shot of the last “debate” and he knows full well that he won’t win a single state, so he can cut loose on the stupidity of the format.
.


332 posted on 09/12/2011 5:36:55 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Sarah Palin - 2012 !)
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To: Rome2000

I’d LOVE to see Newt debate Biden.


333 posted on 09/12/2011 5:37:03 PM PDT by Lilyjuslan
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

ROFLOL!


334 posted on 09/12/2011 5:37:03 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: nagdt

Perry seems more comfortable tonight than at the last debate. I like the fireworks.


335 posted on 09/12/2011 5:37:03 PM PDT by CASchack
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To: Rome2000

He also is a proven warrior who toppled the communists in the US Congress, resigned when the counterattacks made him ineffective, and is back with a vengeance.”

Sounds like someone else who isn’t here tonight...


336 posted on 09/12/2011 5:37:08 PM PDT by jessduntno (Obama shanks. America tanks.)
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To: DRey

“Modernize” the federal government. Nice repackaging to bring in younger voters. Modernize meaning overhaul. Good stuff. Republicans are in good shape for thumping Bummer next year.


337 posted on 09/12/2011 5:37:16 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: F1reEng1neRed

[I think he’s staying in the game to keep the focus on Obama]

I think so, and I think he wants other candidates to take his lead but some won’t. Romney couldn’t wait to attack Perry and start lying about his position on Social Security.

Perry was much better on Social Security tonight, imo.


338 posted on 09/12/2011 5:37:16 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: RedMDer
Paul is Johnny One Note tonight. More McGovern Peacenik crap. Some one need to direct him to the Rat party.


339 posted on 09/12/2011 5:37:48 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: teg_76

Have you noticed how Romney turns towards the speaker and stares at them with that plastic smile? It’s his version of psyching them out. Instead it probably creeps them out.


340 posted on 09/12/2011 5:37:51 PM PDT by McLynnan (When Will Obama Visit the Texas Wildfire Devastation and Show He Cares?)
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To: Rusty0604

You’re right, Perry did say it. It just sounded a lot clearer and more sincere when Cain said it.
I know I probably have to get used to Perry, and warm up to him, but it isn’t easy. And he’s not making it easier.


341 posted on 09/12/2011 5:37:56 PM PDT by Lady Lucky (Heavy the head that wears the tiara.)
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To: hope

He’s got problems but when he shines, he shines brightly.


342 posted on 09/12/2011 5:38:25 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Sybeck1

Finally somebody had the nerve to say “get rid of the dept. of Educ, EPA, HUD,...” The Federal Pig needs to go on a diet!


343 posted on 09/12/2011 5:38:37 PM PDT by swamprebel (Where liberty dwells, there is my country.)
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To: DRey

Notice how several of the men are copying what Perry did in the last debate. Acting like big tough men...how, obvious.


344 posted on 09/12/2011 5:38:38 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Rome2000

Very well put!

the BEST part of this whole debate is that the country gets to see a realistic picture of Tea Partiers..they aren’t hobbits, they aren’t barbarians!

they are well dressed, respectful people asking intelligent questions....THAT will have a profound impact on the Independents.


345 posted on 09/12/2011 5:38:39 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (GOD BLESS AMERICA !)
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To: COBOL2Java

Eliminating energy and education.....

Ron Paul is so over. He’s just utterly ... utter.


346 posted on 09/12/2011 5:38:39 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: newzjunkey
[Gingrich] resigned when the counterattacks made him ineffective

Some rewriting of history. Gingrich was his own worst enemy, and his ethics and maritial problems didn't help.
347 posted on 09/12/2011 5:39:13 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: editor-surveyor

Newt better be the Sec of State for whatever President gets in.

Herman Cain better be running Treasury or Labor when all is said and done.

It’s time to get Huntsman, Santorum, and Paul off the stage.

These Perry-Romney fights are funny.


348 posted on 09/12/2011 5:39:31 PM PDT by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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To: CASchack

Wolf needs to bring all the candidates in better but still he’s not doing a bad job of engaging a discussion. Liking his format waayyyy better than MSDNC.


349 posted on 09/12/2011 5:39:38 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: teg_76

Did you know Mit had experience in the business world? :). He is starting to remind me of Kerry and Vietnam. You did know Kerry was in Vietnam, didn’t you.


350 posted on 09/12/2011 5:39:46 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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